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  • ph33
    MVP
    • Oct 2014
    • 3261

    #91
    Learning to Embrace the MyCareer Grind in NBA 2K19

    Originally posted by kehlis
    Drop it.



    He actually hasn't attacked anyone. He gave his opinion and those of you who took it to heart are the ones who perceived it as an attack.



    As much as you are allowed to give your opinion, so is he. There has been an actual good amount of trolling being done towards him in this thread that have names a lot closer to pink than his name.



    And no, join date has no bearing. I've had no issues banning people in the past who have been around since the sites inception. And I don't even know this user.



    If you guys want him to stop posting, then take your own advice and stop posting. No one is changing anyone's mind at this point.


    You're telling HIM to drop it even after this other guy said he'd leave and keeps coming back to piss on the flames?

    You really gonna tell us that he hasn't done any trolling while he is going around making strawman arguments, calling others criers and moaners?

    Really?

    Nobody has attacked anyone who had a differing opinion. Where in this thread do you see someone say "I enjoy the grind" and see others saying NO YOU SHOULDN'T?

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    • Gosens6
      All Star
      • Oct 2007
      • 6100

      #92
      Re: Learning to Embrace the MyCareer Grind in NBA 2K19

      Originally posted by ph33
      Why do you guys care so much what other people think and do?

      So let me be clear, we're qualified to bitch about stuff ONLY if we didn't buy the game?


      Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports


      At the end of my post, I literally said I don’t care, just making observations, which I’m allowed to do on an open forum.

      Whatever disagreement you got into with a previous poster, you seem to be REALLY taking to heart, man. I’m not judging you or anyone else, I just don’t think it’s that serious like kehlis said.


      Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports

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      • kehlis
        Moderator
        • Jul 2008
        • 27738

        #93
        Re: Learning to Embrace the MyCareer Grind in NBA 2K19

        Originally posted by ph33
        You're telling HIM to drop it even after this other guy said he'd leave and keeps coming back to piss on the flames?

        You really gonna tell us that he hasn't done any trolling while he is going around making strawman arguments, calling others criers and moaners?

        Really?

        Nobody has attacked anyone who had a differing opinion. Where in this thread do you see someone say "I enjoy the grind" and see others saying NO YOU SHOULDN'T?
        No. I'm telling everyone to drop it. Him included.

        (Also, users who make strawmam arguments aren't violating the TOS. They are just bad at debates)

        What you are perceiving as attacks, are actually discussion in a debate.

        He's only discussed arguments made by others. That is NOT trolling.

        What is trolling is users attacking an individual which many have done towards him yet he has yet to do in this thread.

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        • Yesh2kdone
          Banned
          • Feb 2015
          • 1412

          #94
          Re: Learning to Embrace the MyCareer Grind in NBA 2K19

          Originally posted by Gosens6
          I mean, isn’t it kinda like how you guys keep trying to change 2Ks mind about their VC and greedy practices.

          They don’t, yet you continually buy the game year after year knowing their VC policy? You guys get so mad and torture yourself year after year.

          Coming to the forums and saying what greedy bastards they are, and it’s a scam and this and that, yet you keep giving a company $60 every year for a game you apparently hate.

          I don’t know, I don’t really care, just my observations

          🤷🏾*♂️


          Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports
          I think we're all aware that we're not going to change 2k's mind, and I've praised them numerous times in this thread about how much VC you can earn.

          I tried to get my money back this year from PSN and 2k but was unsuccessful, not because of "2k and their greedy practices", but because of the way they told us in the lead up to release that they heard our complaints about the monotonous grind and had learned from last year. Upon release they had, but before the game had been out a week, they were already nerfing the amount of XP you could earn pushing the grind closer to 2k18, than the release of this game. If there is any mention of a road to 99 and/or archetypes in 2k20, I'm out. It's not fun anymore doing this, and although this game is a massive improvement over the last 2 years in terms of gameplay, the trajectory since 15 and 16 is in the wrong direction for me as a gamer. I'll be disappointed, of course but video games should be fun, so this notion of grinding in and of itself is the antithesis of why people would admit they enjoy playing games to begin with.

          Incidentally, the same grind that OS wrote a piece about how much we should enjoy it. Da Daaaaa; here we are. We're not randomly moaning about 2k for ****s and giggles, this is a topic started up by the forum itself. Lots of people have a different opinions to me about this matter, and that's completely fine; no one wants to post on a forum full of the same opinions, but where this guy is different is that he admits he doesn't play the mode and constantly posts the same things making digs at other forum users, calling people most names under the sun.

          It would be like me going into the myleague thread and telling everyone to stop using custom slider sets because 2k have already made one and they aren't going to change, calling you all bitches and then doing the same the day after, and then the day after that, and then the day after that, and then in 2k20, and then 21. I'm sure at the start, you'd think I was a bit of a loon, but then it would start to wear thin after a while, and people (myself included) have had enough of it.

          People in this very thread have said that the grind is fun and that's how it should be, that's fair enough. I disagree with them, but their opinions are as valid to be heard/read as mine. Except no one has had an issue with those dudes, but have an issue with the one particular dude, and for that, there's a very good reason.

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          • Yesh2kdone
            Banned
            • Feb 2015
            • 1412

            #95
            Re: Learning to Embrace the MyCareer Grind in NBA 2K19

            Originally posted by kehlis
            Drop it.

            He actually hasn't attacked anyone. He gave his opinion and those of you who took it to heart are the ones who perceived it as an attack.

            As much as you are allowed to give your opinion, so is he. There has been an actual good amount of trolling being done towards him in this thread that have names a lot closer to pink than his name.

            And no, join date has no bearing. I've had no issues banning people in the past who have been around since the sites inception. And I don't even know this user.

            If you guys want him to stop posting, then take your own advice and stop posting. No one is changing anyone's mind at this point.
            I was writing my last post when you had posted this, so apologies. I'll gladly drop it for you, especially as I'm so close to pink already. I won't pst anymore, you have my word.

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            • Gosens6
              All Star
              • Oct 2007
              • 6100

              #96
              Re: Learning to Embrace the MyCareer Grind in NBA 2K19

              Originally posted by Yesh2k
              I think we're all aware that we're not going to change 2k's mind, and I've praised them numerous times in this thread about how much VC you can earn.



              I tried to get my money back this year from PSN and 2k but was unsuccessful, not because of "2k and their greedy practices", but because of the way they told us in the lead up to release that they heard our complaints about the monotonous grind and had learned from last year. Upon release they had, but before the game had been out a week, they were already nerfing the amount of XP you could earn pushing the grind closer to 2k18, than the release of this game. If there is any mention of a road to 99 and/or archetypes in 2k20, I'm out. It's not fun anymore doing this, and although this game is a massive improvement over the last 2 years in terms of gameplay, the trajectory since 15 and 16 is in the wrong direction for me as a gamer. I'll be disappointed, of course but video games should be fun, so this notion of grinding in and of itself is the antithesis of why people would admit they enjoy playing games to begin with.



              Incidentally, the same grind that OS wrote a piece about how much we should enjoy it. Da Daaaaa; here we are. We're not randomly moaning about 2k for ****s and giggles, this is a topic started up by the forum itself. Lots of people have a different opinions to me about this matter, and that's completely fine; no one wants to post on a forum full of the same opinions, but where this guy is different is that he admits he doesn't play the mode and constantly posts the same things making digs at other forum users, calling people most names under the sun.



              It would be like me going into the myleague thread and telling everyone to stop using custom slider sets because 2k have already made one and they aren't going to change, calling you all bitches and then doing the same the day after, and then the day after that, and then the day after that, and then in 2k20, and then 21. I'm sure at the start, you'd think I was a bit of a loon, but then it would start to wear thin after a while, and people (myself included) have had enough of it.



              People in this very thread have said that the grind is fun and that's how it should be, that's fair enough. I disagree with them, but their opinions are as valid to be heard/read as mine. Except no one has had an issue with those dudes, but have an issue with the one particular dude, and for that, there's a very good reason.


              All you guys who have complaints about the grind, in my opinion have valid points. Who am I to judge the gameplay mode you love?

              I don’t know about the other guy you’re having a disagreement with, so I can’t give my opinion on that.

              The only thing I was making an opinion on is how some folks purchase this game year after year knowing 2Ks VC practices.

              Now, if they promised changes to the grind, making it easier, then went back on that promise AFTER release and made it the way it used to be, yeah, that’s messed up and you absolutely have the right to voice your complaints about it.

              Now if this guy really does go into thread after thread and just attach my career guys, yeah, that’s trolling.

              Find some examples, send em to the devs so they can see it happening. I haven’t seen it in this thread, though. That’s all I’m saying.

              I don’t play My Career or online, so my opinion about VC and the grind don’t matter whatsoever, so I’ll never give you online guys any grief about how you play or what you play. Like you said, you don’t come into offline threads telling us to play my career cause offline modes suck. So I say to each their own.


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              • Yesh2kdone
                Banned
                • Feb 2015
                • 1412

                #97
                Re: Learning to Embrace the MyCareer Grind in NBA 2K19

                Originally posted by kehlis
                No. I'm telling everyone to drop it. Him included.

                (Also, users who make strawmam arguments aren't violating the TOS. They are just bad at debates)

                What you are perceiving as attacks, are actually discussion in a debate.

                He's only discussed arguments made by others. That is NOT trolling.

                What is trolling is users attacking an individual which many have done towards him yet he has yet to do in this thread.
                For accuracy's sake, you weren't telling everyone to drop it, you were telling me, and only me. Check your pm's please.

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                • Bernte
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2015
                  • 182

                  #98
                  Re: Learning to Embrace the MyCareer Grind in NBA 2K19

                  Originally posted by Gosens6
                  All you guys who have complaints about the grind, in my opinion have valid points. Who am I to judge the gameplay mode you love?

                  I don’t know about the other guy you’re having a disagreement with, so I can’t give my opinion on that.

                  The only thing I was making an opinion on is how some folks purchase this game year after year knowing 2Ks VC practices.

                  Now, if they promised changes to the grind, making it easier, then went back on that promise AFTER release and made it the way it used to be, yeah, that’s messed up and you absolutely have the right to voice your complaints about it.

                  Now if this guy really does go into thread after thread and just attach my career guys, yeah, that’s trolling.

                  Find some examples, send em to the devs so they can see it happening. I haven’t seen it in this thread, though. That’s all I’m saying.

                  I don’t play My Career or online, so my opinion about VC and the grind don’t matter whatsoever, so I’ll never give you online guys any grief about how you play or what you play. Like you said, you don’t come into offline threads telling us to play my career cause offline modes suck. So I say to each their own.


                  Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports

                  there's a difference between 'buying the game' and 'buying the game + additionally buying ****loads of vc for an irresponsible amount of money'. if people wouldn't do the latter, vc would be gone before you could say "microtransactions suck balls". alas, it will never happen, because too many people don't understand how economics work.

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                  • MadAngryGamer
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 24

                    #99
                    This is an obvious shill article.
                    This pathetic 2K bribed article is nothing more than a ****-you to everyone.
                    Tell us Kevin, how much VC did you get for writing this junk.
                    Actually, don't tell us, coz your just a lyin 2K biatch!

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                    • zello144
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2013
                      • 2183

                      #100
                      Re: Learning to Embrace the MyCareer Grind in NBA 2K19

                      The 2k grind helps you become a better player imo. Because your ratings are so low you have to be smart with how you play you know you aren't going to be the fastest and you really have to pick your shots very wisely and really understand your jump shot and timing.

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                      • kehlis
                        Moderator
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 27738

                        #101
                        Re: Learning to Embrace the MyCareer Grind in NBA 2K19

                        Originally posted by Yesh2k
                        For accuracy's sake, you weren't telling everyone to drop it, you were telling me, and only me. Check your pm's please.
                        For accuracy sake, no, I wasn't telling just you to drop it.

                        Just because I quoted your post doesn't mean that I'm speaking only to you.

                        And yes, read your PM. I can't delete your account, I could only ban it which I'm not going to do because you haven't done anything worthy of being banned.

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                        • ILLSmak
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 2397

                          #102
                          Re: Learning to Embrace the MyCareer Grind in NBA 2K19

                          Originally posted by Gosens6
                          All you guys who have complaints about the grind, in my opinion have valid points. Who am I to judge the gameplay mode you love?

                          I don’t know about the other guy you’re having a disagreement with, so I can’t give my opinion on that.

                          The only thing I was making an opinion on is how some folks purchase this game year after year knowing 2Ks VC practices.

                          Now, if they promised changes to the grind, making it easier, then went back on that promise AFTER release and made it the way it used to be, yeah, that’s messed up and you absolutely have the right to voice your complaints about it.

                          Now if this guy really does go into thread after thread and just attach my career guys, yeah, that’s trolling.

                          Find some examples, send em to the devs so they can see it happening. I haven’t seen it in this thread, though. That’s all I’m saying.

                          I don’t play My Career or online, so my opinion about VC and the grind don’t matter whatsoever, so I’ll never give you online guys any grief about how you play or what you play. Like you said, you don’t come into offline threads telling us to play my career cause offline modes suck. So I say to each their own.


                          Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports

                          I don't think telling people to not be outraged is a good look. It is kind of trolling like umad? U paid u believed the hype, and yes of course 2k is gonna make it seem like the grind is less haha. This year it'll be even more grind!



                          Also where is the well written article as to why 2ks grind is unbearable. We only know what happened like sales numbers. We don't know that without grind that they could have not made more money.


                          The heart of capitalism to me is you make the better product you get to charge what you want, supply and demand etc. But going into the psychology of advertising and getting people "addicted" to something... Games or social media, then bleeding them of time or money or attention, might be end game capitalism but it's not the intended end. Just like the intended end of democracy wasn't what we have now. It's corrupted.



                          The outrage is renewed esp when they post an article like this. Don't come in here like you dudes got played umad, sorry u can't enjoy the game, cuz I do. Cuz I don't play the same modes lololol.



                          Seems like something that anyone would take to heart.



                          -Smak

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                          • Yesh2kdone
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2015
                            • 1412

                            #103
                            Re: Learning to Embrace the MyCareer Grind in NBA 2K19

                            Originally posted by kehlis
                            For accuracy sake, no, I wasn't telling just you to drop it.

                            Just because I quoted your post doesn't mean that I'm speaking only to you.

                            And yes, read your PM. I can't delete your account, I could only ban it which I'm not going to do because you haven't done anything worthy of being banned.
                            Hahaha, so moderators are allowed to share the content of PM's with the rest of the forum?

                            I know I take myself too seriously in your opinion, but is this acceptable on the forum?

                            Can you please arrange for my account to be deleted. I can't just log out because you've made it blatantly clear I have a reason to fear for my data protection with your actions.

                            I apologise to anyone reading this, I wanted to deal with this in privately away from the forum, but it's clear that this moderator feels it's acceptable to share Pm's with everyone else.

                            Taken from the OS ToS

                            Questionable Content
                            These are public boards, so act like you would if you were in a public place. These issues are left to the discretion of the individual moderators, but may include any material that is knowingly false and/or defamatory, misleading, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, that otherwise violates any law, or that encourages conduct constituting a criminal offense.
                            Last edited by Yesh2kdone; 10-08-2018, 06:48 AM.

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                            • Rockie_Fresh88
                              Lockdown Defender
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 9621

                              #104
                              Re: Learning to Embrace the MyCareer Grind in NBA 2K19

                              One thing about the grind that’s been tough for me...

                              I like playing multiple positions and multiple styles . So constantly having to regrind badges is overwhelming .
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                              First Team Defense !!!

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                              • franzis
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 1451

                                #105
                                Re: Learning to Embrace the MyCareer Grind in NBA 2K19

                                A distinction has to be made between grinding for badges and grinding for cap breakers.


                                To me grinding for badges is fine and balanced as a whole.
                                You can get gold badges (which are more than enough for being competitive) in a reasonable amount of time by playing and by practicing.
                                And, ABOVE ALL, you can choose which budges unlock first.
                                It's all about that, as I can be not interested in having Gold tear dropper even if I am a slasher, and decide to upgrade it after corner specialist.


                                On the opposite, grinding for cap breakers can be so much frustrating because you cannot choose the attributes to unlock, so I'm not allowed to prioritize, for instance, strength over passing.
                                This is the biggest flaw of the system they put in place.
                                And the sad thing is that 2k17 (which introduced archetypes) gave you such freedom.
                                So basically they broke something that was working just fine.
                                Last edited by franzis; 10-08-2018, 08:21 AM.

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