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  • zrohman
    Pro
    • Nov 2013
    • 834

    #1

    Ice Skating Defense?

    I've made this thread multiple years. But if I am going to purchase 2K19, I need to know about this issue!

    In 2K16, 2K17, and 2K18, it always felt like I was on skates on defense.

    No matter who I was playing with, no matter what defender I was controlling, online, or offline, my defenders would be on skates.

    If an offensive player would drive against me, I would guess the correct way and gently move my analog in that direction, while holding LT (Xbox). If a player was rushing past me I would also use turbo.

    No matter what I tried, whether it was letting off LT at certain times, only holding it to glue myself to the defender, nothing. It hasn't worked in years.

    This gets significantly worse online. I've had multiple internet providers, extremely fast internet, and no input lag on NBA Live, yet playing in the park in 2k has been unbearable. Playing head to head I've been FORCED to play off ball defense, because the input lag is so terrible. This is NOT an issue with any other sports game (including Madden, Rocket League, NBA Live, Fifa, etc.)

    With all that being said, I have enjoyed the NBA Live gameplay more, and was going to not get 2k this year, but the one thing that 2k always gets right is rosters and rotations for play now. This really excites me and it's always fun to have two games.

    I won't buy unless this input lag thing is taken care of, and I just can't buy if I cannot play decent defense.

    Can you all help me out? How has input lag been for you online? Is it so bad that you have to play off ball defense? Is it improved over last year?

    Is defense improved offline as well? Is it easier to stay with your man if you guess the correct direction?

    I know there is a defensive impressions thread (90% of the impressions were from the prelude). But I want an answer on this specific issue, so please help. Thank you!
  • zrohman
    Pro
    • Nov 2013
    • 834

    #2
    Re: Ice Skating Defense?

    Can anyone help? I'm not finding any information on this

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    • keshunleon
      MVP
      • Apr 2006
      • 2111

      #3
      Re: Ice Skating Defense?

      If you are enjoying Live stick with it. I'm not a fan of Live gameplay at all but the foot planting is much better.
      There many videos and forums answer your question, just read through them.


      Or just buy it and find out for yourself.
      Last edited by keshunleon; 11-03-2018, 09:41 AM.
      True bout my business, Mane!

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      • Bunselpower32
        Pro
        • Jul 2012
        • 947

        #4
        Re: Ice Skating Defense?

        Or rent it.

        But on topic, I've not seen that much skating, aside from the deep post. Some of the animations really shove the defender and don't let you body up.

        #2 in your program, #1 in our hearts. You will be missed, Red.
        "The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws."

        - Rick Wise

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        • CelticLG
          MVP
          • Nov 2014
          • 1905

          #5
          Re: Ice Skating Defense?

          Originally posted by zrohman
          I've made this thread multiple years. But if I am going to purchase 2K19, I need to know about this issue!

          In 2K16, 2K17, and 2K18, it always felt like I was on skates on defense.

          No matter who I was playing with, no matter what defender I was controlling, online, or offline, my defenders would be on skates.

          If an offensive player would drive against me, I would guess the correct way and gently move my analog in that direction, while holding LT (Xbox). If a player was rushing past me I would also use turbo.

          No matter what I tried, whether it was letting off LT at certain times, only holding it to glue myself to the defender, nothing. It hasn't worked in years.

          This gets significantly worse online. I've had multiple internet providers, extremely fast internet, and no input lag on NBA Live, yet playing in the park in 2k has been unbearable. Playing head to head I've been FORCED to play off ball defense, because the input lag is so terrible. This is NOT an issue with any other sports game (including Madden, Rocket League, NBA Live, Fifa, etc.)

          With all that being said, I have enjoyed the NBA Live gameplay more, and was going to not get 2k this year, but the one thing that 2k always gets right is rosters and rotations for play now. This really excites me and it's always fun to have two games.

          I won't buy unless this input lag thing is taken care of, and I just can't buy if I cannot play decent defense.

          Can you all help me out? How has input lag been for you online? Is it so bad that you have to play off ball defense? Is it improved over last year?

          Is defense improved offline as well? Is it easier to stay with your man if you guess the correct direction?

          I know there is a defensive impressions thread (90% of the impressions were from the prelude). But I want an answer on this specific issue, so please help. Thank you!
          https://forums.operationsports.com/f...t-sliders.html

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          • kirbz101
            Rookie
            • Apr 2013
            • 20

            #6
            Re: Ice Skating Defense?

            Originally posted by zrohman
            I've made this thread multiple years. But if I am going to purchase 2K19, I need to know about this issue!

            In 2K16, 2K17, and 2K18, it always felt like I was on skates on defense.

            No matter who I was playing with, no matter what defender I was controlling, online, or offline, my defenders would be on skates.

            If an offensive player would drive against me, I would guess the correct way and gently move my analog in that direction, while holding LT (Xbox). If a player was rushing past me I would also use turbo.

            No matter what I tried, whether it was letting off LT at certain times, only holding it to glue myself to the defender, nothing. It hasn't worked in years.

            This gets significantly worse online. I've had multiple internet providers, extremely fast internet, and no input lag on NBA Live, yet playing in the park in 2k has been unbearable. Playing head to head I've been FORCED to play off ball defense, because the input lag is so terrible. This is NOT an issue with any other sports game (including Madden, Rocket League, NBA Live, Fifa, etc.)

            With all that being said, I have enjoyed the NBA Live gameplay more, and was going to not get 2k this year, but the one thing that 2k always gets right is rosters and rotations for play now. This really excites me and it's always fun to have two games.

            I won't buy unless this input lag thing is taken care of, and I just can't buy if I cannot play decent defense.

            Can you all help me out? How has input lag been for you online? Is it so bad that you have to play off ball defense? Is it improved over last year?

            Is defense improved offline as well? Is it easier to stay with your man if you guess the correct direction?

            I know there is a defensive impressions thread (90% of the impressions were from the prelude). But I want an answer on this specific issue, so please help. Thank you!

            On 2k19, I notice AI teammates don't adjust/help on defense and that's when the CPU burns you. Ice skating defense? Yes, it's present on this game that's why i mix on ball and off ball defense.


            By the way, I played against Orlando Magic yesterday, Evan Fournier was dominant and Vucevic was making shots fading away like Michael Jordan lol.

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            • WarMMA
              MVP
              • Apr 2016
              • 4612

              #7
              Re: Ice Skating Defense?

              Originally posted by kirbz101
              On 2k19, I notice AI teammates don't adjust/help on defense and that's when the CPU burns you. Ice skating defense? Yes, it's present on this game that's why i mix on ball and off ball defense.


              By the way, I played against Orlando Magic yesterday, Evan Fournier was dominant and Vucevic was making shots fading away like Michael Jordan lol.
              These things only happen to the players CPU defense. Stuff like not adjusting on help D, ect. The AI's CPU defenders are ALWAYS on point. Rarely ever will they miss a beat. As far as ice skating defense, one thing I have noticed is with getting around screens, they move waay to fast sometimes. Sometimes it's like they teleport around screens with how fast they move and are right back in your face. That needs to be slowed down to a more realistic speed.

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              • zrohman
                Pro
                • Nov 2013
                • 834

                #8
                Re: Ice Skating Defense?

                Sounds like the foot planting still needs work, it's been years that this has been an issue. Sad to see it is still an issue. I'll rent it though and see for myself. Good tip

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                • WarMMA
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2016
                  • 4612

                  #9
                  Re: Ice Skating Defense?

                  They have some things that could use fixed, but this is still a great game now don't get anyone wrong. Much better than 2k18 and i'd definitely recommend buying it.

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                  • Korrupted
                    Pro
                    • Nov 2015
                    • 917

                    #10
                    Re: Ice Skating Defense?

                    The input lag is probably a little more noticeable this year than last IMO. You really gotta lay off R2/RT or you'll get cooked for it. The servers need big time maintenance this year. It's hurting the game more than helping it.

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                    • Keith01
                      Banned
                      • Aug 2017
                      • 748

                      #11
                      Re: Ice Skating Defense?

                      Depends on your arch. My sharpshooting PM slides around a lot more than my C. Also I upgraded my tv to 4K and got an xbox1 x and wow what a difference it makes vs the input lag.

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                      • smuhead
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 124

                        #12
                        Re: Ice Skating Defense?

                        Originally posted by zrohman
                        Sounds like the foot planting still needs work, it's been years that this has been an issue. Sad to see it is still an issue. I'll rent it though and see for myself. Good tip
                        I rarely slide on defense. And when I do, I know why I did. I can probably help you if given the chance.
                        Can you upload a video showing how you play defense?

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                        • 2kVetRespect
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2018
                          • 98

                          #13
                          Re: Ice Skating Defense?

                          The actual key is to use R2 only when u get beat. The object it to stay in front of your man with L2 only. Some people say yo lay off l2 but l2 is the defensive stance and ideally, u dont want to ever come out of this stance unless u get beat, in which by then, u use the combination or r2+l2 (a mechanics that doesnt work well due to foot planting issues)or iust r2 alone to cut him off

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                          • prestwood90
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2013
                            • 1253

                            #14
                            Re: Ice Skating Defense?

                            The movement sliders posted above helped immensely for me but everyone is different, I love this years game for the most part


                            Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports

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                            • WarMMA
                              MVP
                              • Apr 2016
                              • 4612

                              #15
                              Re: Ice Skating Defense?

                              Originally posted by prestwood90
                              The movement sliders posted above helped immensely for me but everyone is different, I love this years game for the most part


                              Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports
                              Same here...especially the defense. Was so tired of the blow by fest 2k18 was. Best 2k in yrs honestly.
                              Last edited by WarMMA; 11-07-2018, 12:31 PM.

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