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  • Dedicated2389
    Rookie
    • Oct 2011
    • 45

    #76
    Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

    Originally posted by ILLSmak
    haha, late but, to me, skill gap is how you respond to realistic adversity. That's why people who can only play one (generally the best) archetype aren't great. That's why people who quit out or run against the corner of the screen when the game doesn't go their way aren't great.



    Realistic sports gaming should be about overcoming adversity. Running in circles until you get open and firing up a three is not a lot of adversity. Finding a way to win when you shoot 3-13 on great looks, that's realism.


    Esp when your 3rd bucket is the game winner. haha. Best feeling.



    -Smak

    Nah bro, shooting 3-13 with a pure sharp on great looks is trash. But thats what the community wants because the 3 ball is so effective. I think a simple fix would be lowering the effect of badges. For things like limitless range and deeprange dead eye it should max at around a silver level. And well if your gonna nerf badges might as well nerf them all across the board and that would lead to more realistic gameplay I think.

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    • ruxpinke
      Pro
      • Apr 2008
      • 908

      #77
      Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

      Originally posted by ILLSmak
      haha, late but, to me, skill gap is how you respond to realistic adversity. That's why people who can only play one (generally the best) archetype aren't great. That's why people who quit out or run against the corner of the screen when the game doesn't go their way aren't great.



      Realistic sports gaming should be about overcoming adversity. Running in circles until you get open and firing up a three is not a lot of adversity. Finding a way to win when you shoot 3-13 on great looks, that's realism.


      Esp when your 3rd bucket is the game winner. haha. Best feeling.



      -Smak
      This, This, and This. What do you do when you dont have it going? How can you help in other ways. Will getting some inside shots help you get back on track. So much of the fun of basketball is the game within the game. Those nuances disappear when sharps are consistently 8 of 10.
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      • Dedicated2389
        Rookie
        • Oct 2011
        • 45

        #78
        Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

        Originally posted by ruxpinke
        This, This, and This. What do you do when you dont have it going? How can you help in other ways. Will getting some inside shots help you get back on track. So much of the fun of basketball is the game within the game. Those nuances disappear when sharps are consistently 8 of 10.
        Why is the sharp shooting 8-10?? Whos gaurding him?? Where is the defence?? How can a "set-shooter" score inside shots to get back on track without getting swatted or missing wide open layups on top of the fact they can barley move?

        I have played over 1000 park games I've never seen a sharp shoot 8-10 on contested shots..

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        • ruxpinke
          Pro
          • Apr 2008
          • 908

          #79
          Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

          Originally posted by Dedicated2389
          Why is the sharp shooting 8-10?? Whos gaurding him?? Where is the defence?? How can a "set-shooter" score inside shots to get back on track without getting swatted or missing wide open layups on top of the fact they can barley move?



          I have played over 1000 park games I've never seen a sharp shoot 8-10 on contested shots..


          I have, due to illegal screening and zig zagging, causing “open” shots. I’m in the camp that shooting can exist how it is now but those things have to be addressed. If they aren’t then shooting has to take a hit.


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          • Dedicated2389
            Rookie
            • Oct 2011
            • 45

            #80
            Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

            Originally posted by ruxpinke
            I have, due to illegal screening and zig zagging, causing “open” shots. I’m in the camp that shooting can exist how it is now but those things have to be addressed. If they aren’t then shooting has to take a hit.


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            why is your team not switching everything or playing a Zone when you face a sharpshooter who is hitting?
            When I play with my crew everyone knows we will give up the 2 before the 3 ball.. Simple switches or a good Zone defence can take a sharp out of the game... If a sharp is going over screens and no one is switching to cover him thats your fault...
            2k should address the inbound issue in the park cause thats the only time its hard to gaurd sharps.. other than that guys just need to play better defence period.
            It should be common sense to give up the 2 over the 3 thats why I hate playing with randoms who just try to stick to their man all game and not focused on whats actually going on on the court.

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            • aliadiere25
              Rookie
              • Sep 2018
              • 44

              #81
              Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

              I'm pretty certain if you make your arm short, you completely mess your pure sharp up...... well, it seems that way to me.

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              • El_Poopador
                MVP
                • Oct 2013
                • 2624

                #82
                Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

                Originally posted by Dedicated2389
                Nah bro, shooting 3-13 with a pure sharp on great looks is trash. But thats what the community wants because the 3 ball is so effective. I think a simple fix would be lowering the effect of badges. For things like limitless range and deeprange dead eye it should max at around a silver level. And well if your gonna nerf badges might as well nerf them all across the board and that would lead to more realistic gameplay I think.
                So you want everyone to play at 100% effectiveness at all times? No one ever has off shooting games, and everything comes down to how well you time your shot? Should they get rid of fatigue too?

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                • ruxpinke
                  Pro
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 908

                  #83
                  Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

                  I shouldnt be forced to have to team up and devise a strategy and have to execute it perfectly in order to deal with tactics that don't reflect real basketball. Dribbling right to left behind a screener constantly moving or shuffling his feet doesnt happen in any form of real life basketball.
                  PSN: PrettyToney

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                  • Dedicated2389
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 45

                    #84
                    Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

                    Originally posted by El_Poopador
                    So you want everyone to play at 100% effectiveness at all times? No one ever has off shooting games, and everything comes down to how well you time your shot? Should they get rid of fatigue too?
                    Lol... dude what are you even talking about? Fatigue should play a part in effectiveness and it doesnt come down to just how well you time your shot, its a mixture of timing and good shot selection. In a online PVP if there is no defence why should the shooter be pentalized UNLESS they take a bad shot OR they are fatigue.

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                    • Dedicated2389
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 45

                      #85
                      Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

                      Originally posted by ruxpinke
                      I shouldnt be forced to have to team up and devise a strategy and have to execute it perfectly in order to deal with tactics that don't reflect real basketball. Dribbling right to left behind a screener constantly moving or shuffling his feet doesnt happen in any form of real life basketball.
                      LOL.. are you serious? You shouldnt have to team up and have a defensive strategy?? You dont want to play "realistic" basketball then.. Teams come up with game plans to slow down the opposing team.. Thats basketball 101... If your not doing that then thats your first mistake.

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                      • Dedicated2389
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 45

                        #86
                        Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

                        Originally posted by aliadiere25
                        I'm pretty certain if you make your arm short, you completely mess your pure sharp up...... well, it seems that way to me.
                        Alot of people made builds with short arms and they are less effective on defence. Instead of them looking at the mistake they made with their build they just scream "shooting is OP" not taking in the fact they are barley ever contesting anyones shot.

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                        • ruxpinke
                          Pro
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 908

                          #87
                          Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

                          Originally posted by Dedicated2389
                          LOL.. are you serious? You shouldnt have to team up and have a defensive strategy?? You dont want to play "realistic" basketball then.. Teams come up with game plans to slow down the opposing team.. Thats basketball 101... If your not doing that then thats your first mistake.


                          You not reading bruh.


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                          • Dedicated2389
                            Rookie
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 45

                            #88
                            Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

                            Originally posted by ruxpinke
                            You not reading bruh.


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                            "I shouldnt be forced to have to team up and devise a strategy and have to execute it perfectly in order to deal with tactics that don't reflect real basketball." - ruxpinke

                            Ok i read it again.. Are you serious?? What shooters dont use screens in real life basketball, how is that not a real tactic? Is switching screens to close out on shooters not a real tactic? Idk what your talking about fam.
                            Last edited by Dedicated2389; 12-05-2018, 01:21 PM.

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                            • ruxpinke
                              Pro
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 908

                              #89
                              Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

                              Originally posted by Dedicated2389
                              "I shouldnt be forced to have to team up and devise a strategy and have to execute it perfectly in order to deal with tactics that don't reflect real basketball." - ruxpinke

                              Ok i read it again.. Are you serious?? What shooters dont use screens in real life basketball, how is that not a real tactic? Is switching screens to close out on shooters not a real tactic? Idk what your talking about fam.
                              You conveniently left out the second part of what I wrote- "Dribbling right to left behind a screener constantly moving or shuffling his feet doesnt happen in any form of real life basketball."

                              I'm talking about constantly moving screens and left right zig zagging, which I would classify as tactics that don't reflect real basketball.

                              What you're talking about is a well run screen play, which is a real basketball play, and one that I have no issue defending, or attempting to defend.

                              And to answer your question, yes I am serious.
                              PSN: PrettyToney

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                              • Thrustie
                                Pro
                                • Sep 2016
                                • 764

                                #90
                                Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

                                Originally posted by Dedicated2389
                                "I shouldnt be forced to have to team up and devise a strategy and have to execute it perfectly in order to deal with tactics that don't reflect real basketball." - ruxpinke

                                Ok i read it again.. Are you serious?? What shooters dont use screens in real life basketball, how is that not a real tactic? Is switching screens to close out on shooters not a real tactic? Idk what your talking about fam.
                                The sort of screening you see in Park and Pro-Am doesn’t resemble real basketball at all though. Teams don’t run screens at the top of the arc for off dribble 3s on repeat because, frankly, it’s not a particularly great shot. In Park and Pro-Am, it’s practically the only play elite teams run. It’s especially silly on teams full of shooters because if the defender hedges on the screen, you’re basically conceding the roll for the open 2.

                                The fact is, forcing your matchup into taking open off dribble, long range 3s shouldn’t be a terrible strategy but it’s practically suicide with the shooting in this game.

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                                Only in this game is it better to let a guy walk down Main Street than let a guy take an off dribble 35 foot 3 pointer.

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