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  • tru11
    MVP
    • Aug 2010
    • 1816

    #61
    Re: Would you be fine with your MyPlayer being an archetype based on a real NBA playe

    Originally posted by kdurantmvp
    Why the hell do Jordan have a 85 3 is the question. Jordan was not a good three point shooter


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    he was pretty good later in his career.

    probably not that hard for someone like him to learn it either.

    nowadays even Centers have learned how to shoot a 3 lol

    Guys like Lopez and Gasol did not shoot much 3s early in their career.

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    • Kid OS
      Pro
      • Sep 2016
      • 829

      #62
      Re: Would you be fine with your MyPlayer being an archetype based on a real NBA playe

      Originally posted by tru11
      picking durant . kawhi , curry or giannis is basicially going to make you a demi god when you go against fools who pick a guy who aint even in rotation.

      matter of fact who even put in resources for an archtype who aint going to pick by anybody.

      pretty curious how you are supposed to get to 99 when you pick a guy who is capped at 75 overall......

      Also a 7 footer who tries harden double step back should loose the ball and brake his ankles in the process.

      are you sure you want a simulation and not some arcade game?
      The player isn't capped at 75 overall. They are all capped at 99 ovr. It's basically like starting out as a rookie version of current NBA players. Curry was always Curry, but he just got better at doing the things he used to do. 2K would work the same way. Someone who is a 80 ovr Curry may not be as effective as a 80 ovr Harden. Things like height and weight will change the way these players play. Everyone will have the chance to be unique. And I guarantee that there are some low rated NBA players whose ratings would scale into GOAT status.

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      • kdurantmvp
        Pro
        • Mar 2012
        • 526

        #63
        Re: Would you be fine with your MyPlayer being an archetype based on a real NBA playe

        Here's an idea that benefits us and 2k.


        In order to select an NBA player as your archetype, it's a 300k vc entry price. Also the attributes cost more to upgrade. So instead of 180k to get to 85, it's 360k vc.

        You can select from 20 nba archetypes: 10 legends, 10 current playera.

        LeBron
        Steph
        Durant
        Kawhi
        Jokic
        Harden
        Anthony Davis
        Joel Embiid
        Westbrook
        Kyrie


        Micheal Jordan
        Larry bird
        Magic Johnson
        Hakeem
        Shaq
        Kobe
        Kareem
        Shawn Kemp
        Bill Russell
        Scottie


        They can add alot more but I chose 20 just as a starting point.


        Now choosing an nba archetype limits you to their height, weight, wingspan, and attributes(so you cant add a three ball to a Westbrook build). You also inherit and limited to their badges as well. So once again, you can't add defensive stopper to a curry build.


        Now before people start crying about everybody will pretty much have the same build, how is that any different now? You have about 182 archetypes and only about 6 of them are really viable in pro am and the rest are either park builds or just doesn't make sense. What difference will this system makes? Atleast now for those who only play my career, you guys will have alot more fun because you just downright dominant, park and pro am people we get to enjoy actually being forces of nature and trying to stop other forces of natures.




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        • tru11
          MVP
          • Aug 2010
          • 1816

          #64
          Re: Would you be fine with your MyPlayer being an archetype based on a real NBA playe

          Originally posted by Kid OS
          The player isn't capped at 75 overall. They are all capped at 99 ovr. It's basically like starting out as a rookie version of current NBA players. Curry was always Curry, but he just got better at doing the things he used to do. 2K would work the same way. Someone who is a 80 ovr Curry may not be as effective as a 80 ovr Harden. Things like height and weight will change the way these players play. Everyone will have the chance to be unique. And I guarantee that there are some low rated NBA players whose ratings would scale into GOAT status.
          2K online mylayers dont want to be unique.

          They want to use the most effective build that can expoit the games mechanics the best.

          There is no point in picking low rated limited players as a starting point who will have you at a disatvantage from start to finish.

          I can guaranteed you that those low rated players will never scale into GOAT status for the simple fact they dont have the badges to get them there.

          Unless you want everyone to be able to get whatever badge they want to HOF regardless of who DNA they picked.

          Which in itself defeats the purpose of picking a dna anyways as everyone will end up the same.....

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          • Thrustie
            Pro
            • Sep 2016
            • 764

            #65
            Re: Would you be fine with your MyPlayer being an archetype based on a real NBA playe

            I feel like using players as archetypes would probably kill variety more than the current archetype system does. I know people say there’s only a handful of viable combinations now but when I play Rec, I see all sorts of different builds. Yes the meta builds are the most common but it frankly amazes me how many non-meta builds I see. Yeah a lot of them are barely viable but I still see them.

            With player archetypes, I feel like the optimal builds will be even clearer because players are flat out better than other players. Like why would you use Lilliard at the 1 over Curry or Harden? MJ is just a better version of Kawhi. Who you got at the 3/4 better than LeBron or Durant? You gonna use Drummond or Gobert over Shaq or Hakeem? I mean who’s using guys with less dimensions like Klay, Blake, Rodman, Wallace or Reggie when there’s a whole slew of do-it-all MVPs? And if you go the route or only making the MVPs as selectable, do they really have enough weaknesses to make the game interesting? I’m not sure. I feel like it would really become a game of one on one hero ball. Why move the ball when you can do everything? The best players would likely rise to the top but it would make for a boring game of basketball.

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            • itsmb8
              MVP
              • May 2011
              • 3360

              #66
              Re: Would you be fine with your MyPlayer being an archetype based on a real NBA playe

              If we're doing this im picking the Giannis archetype and bulldozing my way to the paint every single possession.
              PSN / Xbox GT - BLUEnYELLOW28

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              • ksuttonjr76
                All Star
                • Nov 2004
                • 8662

                #67
                Re: Would you be fine with your MyPlayer being an archetype based on a real NBA playe

                Originally posted by tru11
                2K online mylayers dont want to be unique.

                They want to use the most effective build that can expoit the games mechanics the best.

                There is no point in picking low rated limited players as a starting point who will have you at a disatvantage from start to finish.

                I can guaranteed you that those low rated players will never scale into GOAT status for the simple fact they dont have the badges to get them there.

                Unless you want everyone to be able to get whatever badge they want to HOF regardless of who DNA they picked.

                Which in itself defeats the purpose of picking a dna anyways as everyone will end up the same.....
                Honestly, the current system is fine, but I agree with the bold statement. Each archetypes just need more paper/rock/scissor balance in place, but people are always going to find the most effective build to win games...period. People hate losing, and people who choose builds based on their personal preference is a VERY small minority. That's just the beast of online multiplayer games.

                Personally, I like what I like using in any game I play online. That's just how I always been, and over time, I'll just end up being good with whatever I selected. This is biggest example that I can share...In COD: Advanced Warfare there was a sniper rifle where the first shot was a primer and 2nd shot was detonator. I absolutely LOVED that gun, but if you were to check online reviews and YouTube videos, you would swear it was the worse sniper rifle ever. In my mind, it was a super-duper boomtube, lol.
                Last edited by ksuttonjr76; 05-28-2019, 01:23 PM.

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                • kdurantmvp
                  Pro
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 526

                  #68
                  Re: Would you be fine with your MyPlayer being an archetype based on a real NBA playe

                  I know one thing. Defensive stopper has to be reworked next year.. Just because a defender is behind me does not mean I'm going to miss like I forgot how to play basketball. I can see if it was straight up contest but I'll beat my man off the dribble and pull up for a middy but oh no a lockdown is behind and looking at me. Now all my badges have dropped and I missed the shot.


                  Defensive stopper is an OP badge because it cancels out everything but nothing cancels that badge out. Remove the badge from every archetype and have it be a takeover bonus for lockdown defenders. That way the only time they are dropping your attributes and badges are when they are in takeover.




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                  • tru11
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 1816

                    #69
                    Re: Would you be fine with your MyPlayer being an archetype based on a real NBA playe

                    Originally posted by ksuttonjr76
                    Honestly, the current system is fine, but I agree with the bold statement. Each archetypes just need more paper/rock/scissor balance in place, but people are always going to find the most effective build to win games...period. People hate losing, and people who choose builds based on their personal preference is a VERY small minority. That's just the beast of online multiplayer games.

                    Personally, I like what I like using in any game I play online. That's just how I always been, and over time, I'll just end up being good with whatever I selected. This is biggest example that I can share...In COD: Advanced Warfare there was a sniper rifle where the first shot was a primer and 2nd shot was detonator. I absolutely LOVED that gun, but if you were to check online reviews and YouTube videos, you would swear it was the worse sniper rifle ever. In my mind, it was a super-duper boomtube, lol.
                    i can imagine the horror when i make a 6`9 or 6``10 SF with the MJ DNA build lol

                    other then shooting contested 3 or off the dribble 3 there really is no weakness other then perhaps rebounding .

                    pure locl , pure shot, pure athletic and pure post all in 1

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                    • tru11
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 1816

                      #70
                      Re: Would you be fine with your MyPlayer being an archetype based on a real NBA playe

                      Originally posted by kdurantmvp
                      I know one thing. Defensive stopper has to be reworked next year.. Just because a defender is behind me does not mean I'm going to miss like I forgot how to play basketball. I can see if it was straight up contest but I'll beat my man off the dribble and pull up for a middy but oh no a lockdown is behind and looking at me. Now all my badges have dropped and I missed the shot.


                      Defensive stopper is an OP badge because it cancels out everything but nothing cancels that badge out. Remove the badge from every archetype and have it be a takeover bonus for lockdown defenders. That way the only time they are dropping your attributes and badges are when they are in takeover.




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                      meh when using DNA pretty much everyone will have this badge on HOF if they know who to pick

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                      • kdurantmvp
                        Pro
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 526

                        #71
                        Re: Would you be fine with your MyPlayer being an archetype based on a real NBA playe

                        Originally posted by tru11
                        meh when using DNA pretty much everyone will have this badge on HOF if they know who to pick


                        That's why I'm saying remove it from the badges you can get and just lock it to the lockdown takeover. There is no reason why a lockdown defender can just drop my ratings down just for guarding me. It rewards bad players more than good players. A good defender is going to lock you up regardless but bad players who don't know how to defend is getting a serious help from the game. I can beat him off the dribble and have a "open" shot so the defender shouldnt have any effect on my shot but nope, even though he still behind me, my badges and attributes drop [emoji849]


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                        • The Cycle
                          Rookie
                          • Jul 2019
                          • 7

                          #72
                          Re: Would you be fine with your MyPlayer being an archetype based on a real NBA playe

                          CP3
                          Draymond
                          Tayshaun Prince
                          Kukoc
                          JOE INGLES is better than most of the Archetypes In The Game. Overall rating means NOTHING and it is based on the amount of VC spent to upgrade if you notice.

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                          • Kleinevos
                            Pro
                            • Nov 2017
                            • 599

                            #73
                            Re: Would you be fine with your MyPlayer being an archetype based on a real NBA playe

                            Originally posted by The Cycle
                            CP3

                            Draymond

                            Tayshaun Prince

                            Kukoc

                            JOE INGLES is better than most of the Archetypes In The Game. Overall rating means NOTHING and it is based on the amount of VC spent to upgrade if you notice.


                            The difference between 60 and 85 is noticeable.

                            Once over 90 its all the same really

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                            • 3ShowTime2
                              Rookie
                              • Apr 2017
                              • 379

                              #74
                              Re: Would you be fine with your MyPlayer being an archetype based on a real NBA playe

                              No, dont wanna play against 99% Steph Currys all the time in MyPark.

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                              • sooperb
                                Rookie
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 446

                                #75
                                Re: Would you be fine with your MyPlayer being an archetype based on a real NBA playe

                                Originally posted by 3ShowTime2
                                No, dont wanna play against 99% Steph Currys all the time in MyPark.

                                Whether you or not, you've been playing against a bunch of Currys on steroids.
                                Playing NBA 2K feels like a job that pays minimum wage and then cuts your pay when you get your Bill's right to make it even harder to succeed. I do not like this game but it's the only one in town.

                                At cheese, I'm trash. At basketball, I'm great!


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