Re: NBA 2K20 / NBA 2K21 - OFFICIAL TRIANGLE SYSTEM THREAD

[ekurlan2]

Re: NBA 2K20 - OFFICIAL TRIANGLE SYSTEM THREAD

Tail dog, I know you said your internet is inconsistent, but any chance you do can do a breakdown of offense a l czar style? I’m very well versed in the Triangle but I lack of familiarity with video games. Would love a video by an expert like yourself. Thanks for this yearly thread and content!

[JoFri]

NBA 2K20 - OFFICIAL TRIANGLE SYSTEM THREAD

GIVE 5OUT 8 or FIST 15 QUCK

One of the end of quarter plays I run in 2K out of the Open Set. Like the Bulls do in the video below, I like the handoff to come from a wing player like Jud Buechler. The GIVE play is probably what I use if there was a dead ball situation giving me time to sub in a wing to the center position. If I don’t have that luxury then I’ll call the FIST play because most of my low usage spot up wings like him, Fox, and Ariza have PNR Man plays as their Priority 4 play option.

https://youtu.be/3x3MAEKWx5I

Good find Taildog! Give 5out 8 is effective in 2K19 too


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[JoFri]

Re: NBA 2K20 - OFFICIAL TRIANGLE SYSTEM THREAD

Tail dog, I know you said your internet is inconsistent, but any chance you do can do a breakdown of offense a l czar style? I’m very well versed in the Triangle but I lack of familiarity with video games. Would love a video by an expert like yourself. Thanks for this yearly thread and content!

I believe the approach to the playbook breakdown is different. Czar would share a big deal of loop holes for attack, different angles and off ball opportunities. I would recommend Kingslayer videos of such.
Taildog's focus more on finding sim 2K playbooks that are run by Nba teams irl. I do that as well.

For 2K Triangle Offense vidoes, u should check this out if u havent done so. Credit goes to Lorenzo DC for making this video. Though it was made years ago, the principles still apply.

https://youtu.be/crKeJ7Lq-hc

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[taildog]

NBA 2K20 - OFFICIAL TRIANGLE SYSTEM THREAD

ISO 32 QUICK - Blind Pig Isolation

Of course the normal Blind Pig be run out of the freelance action or using one of the Triangle plays they have in the default playbook but this one is executes faster, is easier to call and holds the isolation longer. A must have for my 4th Qtr play sets and end of quarter situations.



Actual NBA Game Footage

Spoiler

https://youtu.be/chRJjqvKsHU https://youtu.be/gc1nsv4dn1k

[taildog]

NBA 2K20 - OFFICIAL TRIANGLE SYSTEM THREAD

PUNCH 54 RIP 1 - UCLA High Post Duckin

Another wrinkle out of the 5 Series. This one mostly run by the Lakers and even the woeful Knicks a few times. I asked Czar about this back in 2015 and it was added to the freelance during the 2K16 cycle updates. Sadly we haven’t seen it since. Spurs have also been running it for years. You may remember last gen SAS 54 Punch Duckin was in the 98 Spurs playbook. The only difference to this alignment would be to lift the SF up from the corner to the wing to begin the play.




Actual NBA Game Footage

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https://youtu.be/S2IwlH9inbk

https://youtu.be/-nrBQ0IqdtQ

https://youtu.be/yUEcPc1bB7c

https://youtu.be/DQ8bO_YP9v8

2K16 Freelance Options

Spoiler

https://youtu.be/Rs5uj5D2CKw

https://youtu.be/aqNT28nLs-0

[taildog]

NBA 2K20 - OFFICIAL TRIANGLE SYSTEM THREAD

Tail dog, I know you said your internet is inconsistent, but any chance you do can do a breakdown of offense a l czar style? I’m very well versed in the Triangle but I lack of familiarity with video games. Would love a video by an expert like yourself. Thanks for this yearly thread and content!

Kingslayer does have a more updated version of a brief freelance overview on his YT channel with the newer play art not including all of the pressure releases. The set plays nor the options out of the freelance have changed much over the years, if anything we’ve lost a few set plays and freelance options I hope to get added back. So I don’t really break those down unless I find an issue with them as they are all re-written for every years game.

[JoFri]

Re: NBA 2K20 - OFFICIAL TRIANGLE SYSTEM THREAD

Awesome videos! Now I'm itch with running the classic bulls again


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[miamidolphins7221]

Re: NBA 2K20 - OFFICIAL TRIANGLE SYSTEM THREAD

I wish it could be ran in the game like Thibodeaus triangle where it was ran through noah people forgets thibs a triangle coach during the late bulls days

[taildog]

Re: NBA 2K20 - OFFICIAL TRIANGLE SYSTEM THREAD

I wish it could be ran in the game like Thibodeaus triangle where it was ran through noah people forgets thibs a triangle coach during the late bulls days

I wouldn’t go that far. They did run a lot of pinch posts and some of the high and low post split cuts. Some pressure releases too. Some are in earlier 2Ks like 2k12 Bulls playbook. You’re probably referring to that vid coach nick put out years ago. But truth be told about Thibs...he ran all sorts of offensive sets from every system. He’s not a bad man offensive coach just misunderstood. That minny team was more of an offensive team than anything lol.

[miamidolphins7221]

Re: NBA 2K20 - OFFICIAL TRIANGLE SYSTEM THREAD

Talk about a fast response lol. But I hear ya I wish it was possible to flip positions on plays or like in 2k8 just make them yourself so i could basically make the bigs the pgs and i agree when he was the coach of the bulls the offense was pretty stale at times.

[ekurlan2]

Re: NBA 2K20 - OFFICIAL TRIANGLE SYSTEM THREAD

Hey everyone!

I made a quick analysis video of the 2015-2016 Westchester Knicks who ran the Triangle better than their big brother did IMO.

Two possessions are highlighted including Blind Pig and the Corner Series, I hope you can watch and share your thoughts, thank you!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ADnlnBZUtbM

[taildog]

Re: NBA 2K20 - OFFICIAL TRIANGLE SYSTEM THREAD

Hey everyone!

I made a quick analysis video of the 2015-2016 Westchester Knicks who ran the Triangle better than their big brother did IMO.

Two possessions are highlighted including Blind Pig and the Corner Series, I hope you can watch and share your thoughts, thank you!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ADnlnBZUtbM

Sadly I didn’t like how they ran it either. I’ve watched a few of their games on msg and YouTube. I actually grew up about 15mins from White Plains, NY where they play their home games. IMO they just ran it more often and may have had more practice time too. The main issue lies with who is teaching it and how much of an onus they place on learning fundamentals and the value footwork. Small details like pivoting or doing a proper rebound-screen cut make all the difference in the world. These guys don’t snap to it. That’s why watching the Knicks or even the mid 2000 Lakers were awful to watch for me. Melo has nothing on how bad Smush Parker was. If you want to watch a player execute watch Rick Fox, Luke Walton, Bshaw, Harp, Buchy, Steve Kerr especially. In this new global style I’d watch some Barangay Ginebra San Miguel games in the Philippines. Tim Cone is still running it I think.

Nice vid though! Just two housekeeping notes: What occurs in the first possession is actually called the “Backdoor Step” and occurs when the strong side triangle is already formed. “Blind Pig” occurs before an entry pass or dribble entry is made. It’s a common mix up of the terminology. And on the next possession, the cut made most often by the strongside wing on a N.2 pass to the corner is typically called a “banana cut”. Just wanted to clarify.

[ekurlan2]

Re: NBA 2K20 - OFFICIAL TRIANGLE SYSTEM THREAD

Sadly I didn’t like how they ran it either. I’ve watched a few of their games on msg and YouTube. I actually grew up about 15mins from White Plains, NY where they play their home games. IMO they just ran it more often and may have had more practice time too. The main issue lies with who is teaching it and how much of an onus they place on learning fundamentals and the value footwork. Small details like pivoting or doing a proper rebound-screen cut make all the difference in the world. These guys don’t snap to it. That’s why watching the Knicks or even the mid 2000 Lakers were awful to watch for me. Melo has nothing on how bad Smush Parker was. If you want to watch a player execute watch Rick Fox, Luke Walton, Bshaw, Harp, Buchy, Steve Kerr especially. In this new global style I’d watch some Barangay Ginebra San Miguel games in the Philippines. Tim Cone is still running it I think.

Nice vid though! Just two housekeeping notes: What occurs in the first possession is actually called the “Backdoor Step” and occurs when the strong side triangle is already formed. “Blind Pig” occurs before an entry pass or dribble entry is made. It’s a common mix up of the terminology. And on the next possession, the cut made most often by the strongside wing on a N.2 pass to the corner is typically called a “banana cut”. Just wanted to clarify.

Thank you Taildog! I appreciate it coming from you.

Yes, totally understood on the Blind Pig vs backdoor. I have found that calling all back door blind pig is easier for others to understand.

My god thank you for the banana cut it was tip of the tongue moment where it was in my brain but I couldn’t get it out!

Love your note about practice time and details. I couldn’t agree more.

[taildog]

NBA 2K20 - OFFICIAL TRIANGLE SYSTEM THREAD

Tex in his element...

What a teacher this guy was. I’d like to point out how important having the triangle specific early offense actions were in 2K16-2K19. Without it this year it takes longer for players to flow to their primary spots on the floor. It feels like if you don’t have auto plays on you’re at a disadvantage and this leads to even less ppl calling plays than before. I reached out to Czar about it this week. I know keeping those specific ones for freelances like this and even Swing is very hard to maintain so I suggest that they add a set play we could call like the 98 Spurs had in last gen games like 2k12. Those “EARLY” plays had an initiation spot at the half court line. With the AI being smarter now when it comes to calling smart plays I hope this is a viable solution.

Also the notice the use of the dribble weave. I’ll be posting a couple vids on the dribble weave out of pinch post and out of the open floor set.

Enjoy [emoji1484]


[SPOILER=“Triangle Offense - On Court Demonstration by Tex Winter (Part 1)”]https://youtu.be/-pa5i9C4mp4[/SPOILER]

[SPOILER=“Triangle Offense - On Court Demonstration by Tex Winter (Part 2)”]https://youtu.be/VC15ZuEkp7g[/SPOILER]


[SPOILER=“Triangle Offense - On Court Demonstration by Tex Winter (Part 3)”]https://youtu.be/neSBi7Iwbl4[/SPOILER]

[taildog]

Re: NBA 2K20 - OFFICIAL TRIANGLE SYSTEM THREAD

FIST 35 SIDE

This is a counter I started using to the solo cut series. In the play art the PF is on the wing but in game he drifts back to the block for proper triangle spacing on the weakside. Play art in 2K is awful lol. Now you could technically just call “Punch 5 Base Tri” and then call for a manual PNR but the spacing you get on the weakside may not be ideal. Only downside is the play is always for the SF no matter which pnr ballhandler you call the play for.

https://youtu.be/pnnWosjGs7Y