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  • #76
    AstrosAllDay85
    Banned
    • Apr 2019
    • 556

    Re: New shooting update


    Re: New shooting update

    Originally posted by Thrustie
    Odd sentiment. I could argue that playing against easily abusable A.I. is actually less realistic than an adaptable human being who isn’t just following an algorithm. In any case, online play can still be made more realistic by having realistic outcomes during interactions between players. It’s literally no different than 2K adjusting the sliders like you would in your Uber realistic offline world.


    playing online u still deal with algorithms and the games programming, and adaptable human???? u mean dudes online always looking for a way to take advantage of the game? lol u obviously like that arcade stuff and thats cool but i think its pointless if u like the possibility of realistic basketball

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    • #77
      Thrustie
      Pro
      • Sep 2016
      • 764

      Re: New shooting update


      Re: New shooting update

      Originally posted by AstrosAllDay85
      playing online u still deal with algorithms and the games programming, and adaptable human???? u mean dudes online always looking for a way to take advantage of the game? lol u obviously like that arcade stuff and thats cool but i think its pointless if u like the possibility of realistic basketball
      Humans trying to take advantage of the game is exactly what happens in real life with coaches. Running plays to exploit the players/schemes the other team is using. No I don’t “obviously” like arcade stuff. I prefer playing against humans because it’s more varied and unique than the A.I. Frankly, your stance is incredibly close-minded. There are plenty of online players who want a more sim-like balanced experience while playing against other players. You thinking that can only be achieved by playing against the computer is comical.

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      • #78
        alabamarob
        MVP
        • Nov 2010
        • 3354

        Re: New shooting update


        Re: New shooting update

        Originally posted by timsmooth503pa
        Yeah all of a sudden on hof offline the jumpers are harder to make now out the box the games feel realistic I changed the sliders and the 3pt percentages are under 30 when it was out the box 30-40% easy I tried it on rp% and shot timing if it's not green it's off I wish they would change it back
        I am having the exact opposite experience. Shooting is way easier then day 1. The CPU on HOF is greening 3s left and right. Houston hit 20 3s vs me in a game. Lebron just hit 5 threes on me in 1 half. Rondo also was raining down 3s, even off the dribble.

        Originally posted by Thrustie
        Humans trying to take advantage of the game is exactly what happens in real life with coaches. Running plays to exploit the players/schemes the other team is using. No I don’t “obviously” like arcade stuff. I prefer playing against humans because it’s more varied and unique than the A.I. Frankly, your stance is incredibly close-minded. There are plenty of online players who want a more sim-like balanced experience while playing against other players. You thinking that can only be achieved by playing against the computer is comical.
        The CPU is way more cheese then a human. A human vs human will give you a much more realistic game then the cpu. Imo
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        • #79
          AstrosAllDay85
          Banned
          • Apr 2019
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          Re: New shooting update


          Re: New shooting update

          Originally posted by Thrustie
          Humans trying to take advantage of the game is exactly what happens in real life with coaches. Running plays to exploit the players/schemes the other team is using. No I don’t “obviously” like arcade stuff. I prefer playing against humans because it’s more varied and unique than the A.I. Frankly, your stance is incredibly close-minded. There are plenty of online players who want a more sim-like balanced experience while playing against other players. You thinking that can only be achieved by playing against the computer is comical.


          Ya there’s plenty of online guys who want sim basketball.......go tell that to Czar and Mike in which 1 has deleted twitter and went off the grid because of the utter insanity that the online community created because the game wasn’t set up to their arcade style they wanted....... the online community in 2k is for the most part toxic and ridiculous.......but to each their own, continue on with your Uber realistic online experience [emoji23] [emoji849] 🤦🏻*♂️


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          • #80
            AstrosAllDay85
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            • Apr 2019
            • 556

            Re: New shooting update


            Re: New shooting update

            Originally posted by alabamarob
            I am having the exact opposite experience. Shooting is way easier then day 1. The CPU on HOF is greening 3s left and right. Houston hit 20 3s vs me in a game. Lebron just hit 5 threes on me in 1 half. Rondo also was raining down 3s, even off the dribble.







            The CPU is way more cheese then a human. A human vs human will give you a much more realistic game then the cpu. Imo


            You have a very small group in which that’s true, just playing randomly online that is far from the truth...... I find the majority of people online would prefer the style of NBA Jam than 2K and sim nation and the cpu cheese is done in an effort to create difficulty not cheat the system like a human will almost always do online


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            • #81
              alabamarob
              MVP
              • Nov 2010
              • 3354

              Re: New shooting update


              Re: New shooting update

              Originally posted by AstrosAllDay85
              You have a very small group in which that’s true, just playing randomly online that is far from the truth...... I find the majority of people online would prefer the style of NBA Jam than 2K and sim nation and the cpu cheese is done in an effort to create difficulty not cheat the system like a human will almost always do online


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              I would defer to you, and the play now guys on randoms. They probably are terrible
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              Difficulty: HOF
              Online or Offline player: Both
              In a MLO: Yes

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              • #82
                jeebs9
                Fear is the Unknown
                • Oct 2008
                • 47574

                Re: New shooting update


                Re: New shooting update

                Originally posted by AstrosAllDay85
                Ya there’s plenty of online guys who want sim basketball.......go tell that to Czar and Mike in which 1 has deleted twitter and went off the grid because of the utter insanity that the online community created because the game wasn’t set up to their arcade style they wanted....... the online community in 2k is for the most part toxic and ridiculous.......but to each their own, continue on with your Uber realistic online experience [emoji23] [emoji849] [emoji1750]*[emoji3603]


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                • #83
                  Thrustie
                  Pro
                  • Sep 2016
                  • 764

                  Re: New shooting update


                  Re: New shooting update

                  Originally posted by AstrosAllDay85
                  Ya there’s plenty of online guys who want sim basketball.......go tell that to Czar and Mike in which 1 has deleted twitter and went off the grid because of the utter insanity that the online community created because the game wasn’t set up to their arcade style they wanted....... the online community in 2k is for the most part toxic and ridiculous.......but to each their own, continue on with your Uber realistic online experience [emoji23] [emoji849] 🤦🏻*♂️


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                  You’re judging an entire playerbase by the most vocal which is never a wise practice. Most of the flak Mike was catching on Twitter was due to game breaking bugs on release which was captured by reviews from many different entities including OS itself. I read more threads on here from online players who want improved realism, balance and mechanics than ones asking for more greenies or ankle breaks.

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                  • #84
                    AstrosAllDay85
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2019
                    • 556

                    Re: New shooting update


                    Re: New shooting update

                    Originally posted by Thrustie
                    You’re judging an entire playerbase by the most vocal which is never a wise practice. Most of the flak Mike was catching on Twitter was due to game breaking bugs on release which was captured by reviews from many different entities including OS itself. I read more threads on here from online players who want improved realism, balance and mechanics than ones asking for more greenies or ankle breaks.


                    Of course more guys on OS want more realism...... this site isn’t the norm for all of 2K players though........ online is full of guys that want flash and nba jam style basketball and wine until they get as close to that as they can...... it’s not ideal for guys that aim for realistic sim ball in most instances


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                    • #85
                      Koosa1027
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2016
                      • 1627

                      Re: New shooting update


                      Re: New shooting update

                      Originally posted by Thrustie
                      Odd sentiment. I could argue that playing against easily abusable A.I. is actually less realistic than an adaptable human being who isn’t just following an algorithm. In any case, online play can still be made more realistic by having realistic outcomes during interactions between players. It’s literally no different than 2K adjusting the sliders like you would in your Uber realistic offline world.
                      I can agree with you on this BUT....we're not talking about "online" not being realistic but we're talking about WHO YOU'RE PLAYING AGAINST ONLINE that can make it a bit arcadish. If you can link up with like-minded people online that want a true basketball experience and the play the game the right way then of course online can be amazing!! But most times online is filled with a bunch of kids that just want to have fun and their idea of fun and my idea of fun is totally different from their idea of fun.

                      ~Koosa10:27~
                      Last edited by Koosa1027; 09-30-2019, 09:33 AM.
                      SIM is a MINDSET...Don't cheat the game and you'll get better results ~Koosa10:27~

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                      • #86
                        Koosa1027
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2016
                        • 1627

                        Re: New shooting update


                        Re: New shooting update

                        Originally posted by alabamarob
                        I am having the exact opposite experience. Shooting is way easier then day 1. The CPU on HOF is greening 3s left and right. Houston hit 20 3s vs me in a game. Lebron just hit 5 threes on me in 1 half. Rondo also was raining down 3s, even off the dribble.



                        The CPU is way more cheese then a human. A human vs human will give you a much more realistic game then the cpu. Imo
                        Agreed...IF you get matched up against a like-minded person. For instance, I am subscribed to your channel and I see alot of similarities in our playstyles so we would have a great game against each other regardless of the score because we play the right way. Playing online against a 9 year old would not be realistic at all because it would be 75 3pt attempts with Steph Curry lol...so it's 2 sides to that coin.

                        ~Koosa10:27~
                        Last edited by Koosa1027; 09-30-2019, 09:33 AM.
                        SIM is a MINDSET...Don't cheat the game and you'll get better results ~Koosa10:27~

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                        • #87
                          AstrosAllDay85
                          Banned
                          • Apr 2019
                          • 556

                          Re: New shooting update


                          Re: New shooting update

                          Originally posted by Koosa1027
                          Agreed...IF you get matched up against a like-minded person. For instance, I am subscribed to your channel and I see alot of similarities in our playstyles so we would have a great game against each other regardless of the score because we play the right way. Playing online against a 9 year old would not be realistic at all because it would be 75 3pt attempts with Steph Curry lol...so it's 2 sides to that coin.

                          ~Koosa10:27~


                          Exactly Koosa, 2 guys with the mindset of u and Rob linking online is extremely rare, most of the time you’ll be playing kids who could care less about sim or realism


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                          • #88
                            Optimus James
                            Rookie
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 393

                            Re: New shooting update


                            Re: New shooting update

                            Originally posted by AstrosAllDay85
                            Of course more guys on OS want more realism...... this site isn’t the norm for all of 2K players though........ online is full of guys that want flash and nba jam style basketball and wine until they get as close to that as they can...... it’s not ideal for guys that aim for realistic sim ball in most instances


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                            You aint lied. I realize that my girl and even my lil bro (plays AAU) only seem interested in the game when a lot of arcade nonsense is happening, when the game is running like an actual simulation then casuals lose interest very fast.
                            And these people take up the vast majority of the community these days.

                            The worst part is that 2K used to have arcade servers and sim servers separate, they've literally gone backwards in these components.

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                            • #89
                              loso_34
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 1352

                              Re: New shooting update


                              Re: New shooting update

                              Looks like you dont even have to set your feet anymore when shooting. Not surprised cause people were complaining that it took too long and they would often shoot leaners they'd miss.

                              well now you can shoot those leaners and they will drop.

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                              • #90
                                AstrosAllDay85
                                Banned
                                • Apr 2019
                                • 556

                                Re: New shooting update


                                Re: New shooting update

                                Originally posted by loso_34
                                Looks like you dont even have to set your feet anymore when shooting. Not surprised cause people were complaining that it took too long and they would often shoot leaners they'd miss.



                                well now you can shoot those leaners and they will drop.


                                Not if u play with real shooting % instead of that silly shot meter but I assume u are online and have no choice


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