Perimeter Defense Rating (NBA 2K20)
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So just clarifying, the lower the number .73 is a better defender vice a poor defender 1.07?
According to Rashidi's numbers Rose is an elite defender and Murray is a terrible defender?True bout my business, Mane!Comment
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Does this data sway any ratings?
ISOLATION DEFENSE (2016-2019)
100+ Possessions (Bold = 200+ Possessions)
0.73 Derrick Rose = 67
0.77 Eric Bledsoe = 93
0.78 Dennis Schroder = 73
0.79 John Wall = 85
0.79 Kemba Walker = 75
0.79 Elfrid Payton = 80
0.79 Isaiah Thomas = 47
0.80 LeBron James = 87
0.80 Mike Conley = 85
0.81 Evan Turner = 74
0.81 Patty Mills = 65
0.82 Stephen Curry = 75
0.82 Chris Paul = 91
0.83 Kyle Lowry = 86
0.85 Russell Westbrook = 83
0.85 Ben Simmons = 84
0.85 Lonzo Ball = 84
0.85 Goran Dragic = 73
0.85 J.J. Barea = 64
0.85 Ish Smith = 74
0.86 Victor Oladipo = 91
0.86 Matthew Dellavedova = 82
0.87 Damian Lillard = 69
0.87 Reggie Jackson = 74
0.87 George Hill = 75
0.88 Ricky Rubio = 78
0.88 Austin Rivers = 82
0.89 Kris Dunn = 79
0.90 Lou Williams = 65
0.92 De'Aaron Fox = 79
0.93 Cory Joseph = 80
0.95 Justise Winslow = 78
0.95 Jeff Teague = 78
0.95 Michael Carter-Williams = 75
0.96 T.J. McConnell = 74
0.97 Kyrie Irving = 73
0.97 Tim Frazier = 69
0.98 Tyus Jones = 57
0.99 D.J. Augustin = 60
0.99 Spencer Dinwiddie = 74
0.99 Yogi Ferrell = 64
1.00 Patrick Beverley = 92
1.00 Tomas Satoransky = 71
1.04 Terry Rozier = 75
1.06 Rajon Rondo = 80
1.07 Jamal Murray = 70Comment
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Way overrated: pat Bev
Way underrated: Alex Caruso
Also kawhi and PG are crazy overrated defensively as well
Also historically they need to bump Michael Jordan’s defensive ratings down tenfold. That dude is a sorry defender compared to today’s defensive standards.
And lebron’s perimeter defense was god awful last season. If he gets back to his 2016/2018 level an 87 makes sense but he was slow and stiff last season. Even pre-injury
I think curry is properly rated if you watch the games. Bigger players like Bron in 2k will abuse him. But curry irl is a very high IQ engaged defender with adequate physical tools. 70s is fineLast edited by Cavs2016; 09-25-2019, 01:51 AM.Comment
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Re: Perimeter Defense Rating (NBA 2K20)
Way overrated: pat Bev
Way underrated: Alex Caruso
Also kawhi and PG are crazy overrated defensively as well
Also historically they need to bump Michael Jordan’s defensive ratings down tenfold. That dude is a sorry defender compared to today’s defensive standards.
And lebron’s perimeter defense was god awful last season. If he gets back to his 2016/2018 level an 87 makes sense but he was slow and stiff last season. Even pre-injury
I think curry is properly rated if you watch the games. Bigger players like Bron in 2k will abuse him. But curry irl is a very high IQ engaged defender with adequate physical tools. 70s is fineComment
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Re: Perimeter Defense Rating (NBA 2K20)
Way overrated: pat Bev
Way underrated: Alex Caruso
Also kawhi and PG are crazy overrated defensively as well
Also historically they need to bump Michael Jordan’s defensive ratings down tenfold. That dude is a sorry defender compared to today’s defensive standards.
And lebron’s perimeter defense was god awful last season. If he gets back to his 2016/2018 level an 87 makes sense but he was slow and stiff last season. Even pre-injury
I think curry is properly rated if you watch the games. Bigger players like Bron in 2k will abuse him. But curry irl is a very high IQ engaged defender with adequate physical tools. 70s is fine
Regarding MJ...Attached Files"Dunks are tough, but when a 35 footer come rainin out the sky...it'll wire you up"Comment
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Players defended by Bledsoe in Isolation scored at 0.77 Points per Possession (the average was 0.88).
Possession data differs from opponent's FG% in that it factors in fouls and turnovers.
Touching on the above, possessions end in more than just shot attempts.Last edited by Real2KInsider; 09-25-2019, 03:02 PM.NBA 2K25 Roster: Real 2K Rosters - Modern Era
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Isolation defense is a very small chunk of PG defense. It makes up less than 10% of all these player's possessions.
Rose is a bigger PG (logged more mins at SG than PG in 2019) so he should be a more effective in Isolation. His athleticism/length made up for his lack of IQ when younger with Chicago. Simply looking at one area does not define whether a player is a good defender or not.
Derrick Rose (2019)
ON-BALL DEF
34% PnR: 1.01 PPP (168 poss) - 14th percentile
7% Post-Up: 0.56 PPP (32 poss) - 94th percentile
5% Isolation: 0.53 PPP (26 poss) - 96th percentile
OFF-BALL DEF
32% Spot-Up: 1.02 PPP (157 poss) - 49th percentile
10% Off-Screen: 0.92 PPP (49 poss) - 52nd percentile
8% Hand-Off: 0.76 PPP (41 poss) - 77th percentile
We can very clearly see Rose (in 2019) was an effective defender 1v1 but got abused in PnR. Probably has the biggest split in the league between his Iso/Post and PnR defense.Last edited by Real2KInsider; 09-25-2019, 03:20 PM.NBA 2K25 Roster: Real 2K Rosters - Modern Era
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While this is TECHNICALLY true, it isn't actually that big a deal as only quality players attempt Isolations nowadays.
2019 Sixers Isos
10% Jimmy Butler (SF): 1.00 PPP (119 poss)
10% Tobias Harris (PF): 0.98 PPP (167 poss)
8% Jonathan Simmons (SG): 0.90 PPP (31 poss)
6% Joel Embiid (C): 0.81 PPP (111 poss)
5% Ben Simmons (PG): 0.93 PPP (50 poss)
2% T.J. McConnell (PG): 1.00 PPP (10 poss)
It's not like defenders are padding their numbers against players who can't score. Especially at the PG spot.NBA 2K25 Roster: Real 2K Rosters - Modern Era
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Re: Perimeter Defense Rating (NBA 2K20)
While this is TECHNICALLY true, it isn't actually that big a deal as only quality players attempt Isolations nowadays.
2019 Sixers Isos
10% Jimmy Butler (SF): 1.00 PPP (119 poss)
10% Tobias Harris (PF): 0.98 PPP (167 poss)
8% Jonathan Simmons (SG): 0.90 PPP (31 poss)
6% Joel Embiid (C): 0.81 PPP (111 poss)
5% Ben Simmons (PG): 0.93 PPP (50 poss)
2% T.J. McConnell (PG): 1.00 PPP (10 poss)
It's not like defenders are padding their numbers against players who can't score. Especially at the PG spot.Comment
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Jordan also played in an era filled to the brim with small/unathletic guards which enabled him to dominate on both ends. Nowadays that skill/size/athleticism is commonplace. Teams have had 20 years to figure out what made him so great.NBA 2K25 Roster: Real 2K Rosters - Modern Era
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