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  • tru11
    MVP
    • Aug 2010
    • 1816

    #346
    Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

    Originally posted by Caelumfang
    So it never dawned on you that people may have just decided to use newer builds, and decided to test them in the Rec?


    This is some of the nonsensical complaining that I'm talking about around here.


    What exactly are you testing playing zone defense and 5 out on a new build?

    How he looks standing in the corner?




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    • ImInThis
      Rookie
      • Oct 2014
      • 380

      #347
      Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

      Originally posted by TheFgGoatLikesHawks
      Secrets out, 92 and under now being used a lot by squads who purposely all have their players stay under 93. Last couple days it's really picked up, had probably 75% of the games vs at least 3-4+ players who were in a squad. These people are scared as you can get of real comp. Even if this game was an amazing, the 2K community keeps finding ways to make it a *** experience smh.
      I hope this isn't the case LMAOOO. I have a 3&D center that I'm purposely keeping at 86-89. Games are so much better because you aren't matched with squads. Do you know for sure they're keep their levels low?

      If true that is beyond pathetic.

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      • howardphillips214
        MVP
        • Jan 2018
        • 1928

        #348
        Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

        Originally posted by Caelumfang
        So it never dawned on you that people may have just decided to use newer builds, and decided to test them in the Rec?


        This is some of the nonsensical complaining that I'm talking about around here.
        There were more and more every day 3 days after they switched it. Full squads of 80 something elites and SS3s. A month later it makes perfect sense they'd be right at the 92 line with all their badges now.

        I actually prefer not being a 95 plus. I'm not stressing about keeping my overall. All i care about is winning.

        I'm sure a bunch of players feel the same.

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        • Housh123
          Banned
          • Jan 2011
          • 1173

          #349
          Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

          Originally posted by Caelumfang
          So it never dawned on you that people may have just decided to use newer builds, and decided to test them in the Rec?


          This is some of the nonsensical complaining that I'm talking about around here.
          Naw this comment was nonsensical, period.

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          • Caelumfang
            MVP
            • Oct 2012
            • 1218

            #350
            Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

            Originally posted by tru11
            What exactly are you testing playing zone defense and 5 out on a new build?

            How he looks standing in the corner?




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            You act as if coming in with a bunch of 93 rated players is gonna magically stop you from getting matched up against higher rated teams. Doesn’t work like that in Rec.

            “OMG Rec shouldn’t allow squads!” “OMG I hate playing in Rec with randoms!” “OMG teams are running zone and 5-out!” “OMG my teammates don’t ever stretch the floor!”

            Like seriously, people can’t decide what to complain about, so they just complain about everything.

            The matchmaking will never be perfect, and you can’t stop people from going into the Rec as squads. You do that, and you pretty much kill off the Rec for good, because NOBODY is stepping in there if they’re forced to play with nothing but randoms every single game.
            Last edited by Caelumfang; 05-08-2020, 09:45 PM.

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            • Housh123
              Banned
              • Jan 2011
              • 1173

              #351
              Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

              Originally posted by Caelumfang
              You act as if coming in with a bunch of 93 rated players is gonna magically stop you from getting matched up against higher rated teams. Doesn’t work like that in Rec.

              “OMG Rec shouldn’t allow squads!” “OMG I hate playing in Rec with randoms!” “OMG teams are running zone and 5-out!” “OMG my teammates don’t ever stretch the floor!”

              Like seriously, people can’t decide what to complain about, so they just complain about everything.

              The matchmaking will never be perfect, and you can’t stop people from going into the Rec as squads. You do that, and you pretty much kill off the Rec for good, because NOBODY is stepping in there if they’re forced to play with nothing but randoms every single game.
              Ummm 2k ABSOLUTELY COULD stop squads from going into rec and if you totally randomized REC many players WOULD play it to avoid the OP pro am teams. They literally just need to make a squads rec and a random rec. The people that really run rec SOLO know how the game plays if everyone is a random and it far outweighs the game play with squads allowed. There is none of that stupid buddy ball and you do not run into OP squads just looking to own bums.

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              • Caelumfang
                MVP
                • Oct 2012
                • 1218

                #352
                Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

                Originally posted by Housh123
                Ummm 2k ABSOLUTELY COULD stop squads from going into rec and if you totally randomized REC many players WOULD play it to avoid the OP pro am teams. They literally just need to make a squads rec and a random rec. The people that really run rec SOLO know how the game plays if everyone is a random and it far outweighs the game play with squads allowed. There is none of that stupid buddy ball and you do not run into OP squads just looking to own bums.
                Okay let me show you why that doesn’t work:

                You’re thinking of a squad of 5. You do realize sometimes people go in with just 2 people, 3 people, or 4 people, right? So they should be forced to play squad Rec, correct?

                So how do you suppose that works if someone goes in with 3 people? That they’re forced to wait until 2k can find a 2-man squad with the correct positions that will be able to pair with the 3-man squad. Do you have any clue how long that would take?

                Or how about a squad of 4? They can’t play EITHER Rec (can’t go into squad Rec solo, remember?) and are forced to play Park?
                Last edited by Caelumfang; 05-08-2020, 10:30 PM.

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                • Kleinevos
                  Pro
                  • Nov 2017
                  • 599

                  #353
                  Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

                  Originally posted by Caelumfang
                  Okay let me show you why that doesn’t work:

                  You’re thinking of a squad of 5. You do realize sometimes people go in with just 2 people, 3 people, or 4 people, right? So they should be forced to play squad Rec, correct?

                  So how do you suppose that works if someone goes in with 3 people? That they’re forced to wait until 2k can find a 2-man squad with the correct positions that will be able to pair with the 3-man squad. Do you have any clue how long that would take?

                  Or how about a squad of 4? They can’t play EITHER Rec (can’t go into squad Rec solo, remember?) and are forced to play Park?

                  I’m fine with 2-3man squads ending up in the “solo matchmaking”.

                  4squad can take their chances in the 5man queue.


                  And I would play the hell out of a “randoms rec” like that.

                  I solo queue most of the time anyway already. Sticking to the 92 and below though, I still only rarely encounter a full lineup there atm


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                  • tru11
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 1816

                    #354
                    Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

                    Originally posted by Caelumfang
                    You act as if coming in with a bunch of 93 rated players is gonna magically stop you from getting matched up against higher rated teams. Doesn’t work like that in Rec.

                    “OMG Rec shouldn’t allow squads!” “OMG I hate playing in Rec with randoms!” “OMG teams are running zone and 5-out!” “OMG my teammates don’t ever stretch the floor!”

                    Like seriously, people can’t decide what to complain about, so they just complain about everything.

                    The matchmaking will never be perfect, and you can’t stop people from going into the Rec as squads. You do that, and you pretty much kill off the Rec for good, because NOBODY is stepping in there if they’re forced to play with nothing but randoms every single game.

                    Separate full squads not all squads

                    Others games have managed to this so its possible.

                    Also so you still havent explained what exactly you are testing.

                    Slap interceptor on any build and its capable of playing zone defense.

                    Any build can shoot corner 3.

                    So what are you testing??


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                    Last edited by tru11; 05-09-2020, 03:11 AM.

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                    • Caelumfang
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 1218

                      #355
                      Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

                      Originally posted by tru11
                      Separate full squads not all squads

                      Others games have managed to this so its possible.

                      Also so you still havent explained what exactly you are testing.

                      Slap interceptor on any build and its capable of playing zone defense.

                      Any build can shoot corner 3.

                      So what are you testing??


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                      Bro, you act like I know what they’re testing. You can still get a feeling for how your character moves, reacts, shooting with a particular rating, etc. Who the hell knows. But you all sound pretty silly to me with all these conspiracy theories. Hell, I personally know some people who refuse to play with their players past 90 in MyCareer, and prefer to raise their player by playing Park/Rec.

                      And like I’ve stated before, sometimes people just might want to go out there with some friends and BS around. We sometimes hit the Rec with lineups like 2 PGs/3 SGs, while drunk/high and just having fun. Oh, I forgot, we should be forced to go to Pro Am, or a Rec Squad area because YOU and a small handful of people are unhappy. Okay.
                      Last edited by Caelumfang; 05-09-2020, 04:39 AM.

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                      • Caelumfang
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 1218

                        #356
                        Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

                        Originally posted by Kleinevos
                        I’m fine with 2-3man squads ending up in the “solo matchmaking”.

                        4squad can take their chances in the 5man queue.


                        And I would play the hell out of a “randoms rec” like that.

                        I solo queue most of the time anyway already. Sticking to the 92 and below though, I still only rarely encounter a full lineup there atm


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                        I can personally say that me and some of the folks I play with on the regular sometimes hit the Rec with newer players, just to BS around and get a feel for our characters. I know I’ve deleted about 4 of my MyPlayers (including a my most recent 96 pure sharp) because I couldn’t stand how they felt. Too sluggish, couldn’t hit reliably, etc.
                        Last edited by Caelumfang; 05-09-2020, 04:24 AM.

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                        • Kleinevos
                          Pro
                          • Nov 2017
                          • 599

                          #357
                          Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

                          Originally posted by Caelumfang
                          I can personally say that me and some of the folks I play with on the regular sometimes hit the Rec with newer players, just to BS around and get a feel for our characters. I know I’ve deleted about 4 of my MyPlayers (including a my most recent 96 pure sharp) because I couldn’t stand how they felt. Too sluggish, couldn’t hit reliably, etc.

                          Not saying that’s not alright. But the people going in 5 and tryharding with zone defence and ****, they just ruin it.

                          So no more full5 in the matchmaking if I had a choice


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                          • kdurantmvp
                            Pro
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 527

                            #358
                            Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

                            A fully solo rec would be the saddest display of basketball to ever be shown. Do yall understand how horrible randoms are? Heavens no.

                            Do you guys forget that basketball is a TEAM sport? Stop trying to go in solo and have people to play with. But then again, if you still solo after all this time and havent found one person to play with... Well then I got some news for you.


                            And if randoms weren't so bad at this game (2k users are legit horrible at this game and possibly have the worst fanbase who sucks at the game) then you wouldn't have so many squads manipulating the system to face the 92 and under players. And another thing, I too play in the 92 and under matchmaking (made a shooting glock), there are barely any full squads in there that play zone and spam square. But I realized that the 2k fanbase think anytime they get blown out, it's a squad on the other end and not their lack of skill that made that game happen.


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                            • CaVsFaN2273
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2018
                              • 1052

                              #359
                              Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

                              Originally posted by kdurantmvp
                              A fully solo rec would be the saddest display of basketball to ever be shown. Do yall understand how horrible randoms are? Heavens no.

                              Do you guys forget that basketball is a TEAM sport? Stop trying to go in solo and have people to play with. But then again, if you still solo after all this time and havent found one person to play with... Well then I got some news for you.


                              And if randoms weren't so bad at this game (2k users are legit horrible at this game and possibly have the worst fanbase who sucks at the game) then you wouldn't have so many squads manipulating the system to face the 92 and under players. And another thing, I too play in the 92 and under matchmaking (made a shooting glock), there are barely any full squads in there that play zone and spam square. But I realized that the 2k fanbase think anytime they get blown out, it's a squad on the other end and not their lack of skill that made that game happen.


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                              Are you really insinuating that people on this forum who play rec solo are doing so because they're trash? I choose to play solo because I don't care about making new friends or forming a squad. I just want to just hop in play a couple games casually and get off, not play some try hard 5 man squad that plays like their lives depend on winning. That's why they should separate randoms from squads as many have suggested before.

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                              • kdurantmvp
                                Pro
                                • Mar 2012
                                • 527

                                #360
                                Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

                                Originally posted by CaVsFaN2273
                                Are you really insinuating that people on this forum who play rec solo are doing so because they're trash? I choose to play solo because I don't care about making new friends or forming a squad. I just want to just hop in play a couple games casually and get off, not play some try hard 5 man squad that plays like their lives depend on winning. That's why they should separate randoms from squads as many have suggested before.

                                Then don't get mad when teams are playing a team catered mode and play like a team. Rec has never been and will never be a solo mode. 2k has never advertised the mode as a solo mode so I don't know where you guys get this idea that squads shouldn't be allowed in there. And truth be told, I play the rec every day and multiple hours of the day. I rarely see these squads you guys speak of.


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