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  • Iasounis
    Pro
    • Oct 2012
    • 668

    #46
    Re: The cynical irony of punishing people for quitting out of games

    Originally posted by haloofduty
    The guy tru11 makes absolutely no sense lol. How can anyone agree with that logic? Common sense is not prevailing in this thread. Are you really arguing that if someone is getting frozen out they shouldn't quit? What lol

    Sounds like your a member of one of the squads that beat up on randoms and dont want them to quit so you can continuously beat up on them all game.
    This...

    People actually saying that someone is selfish by leaving a situation where others are being selfish.

    Smh...
    PSN: KarlMarx24

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    • tru11
      MVP
      • Aug 2010
      • 1816

      #47
      Re: The cynical irony of punishing people for quitting out of games

      Originally posted by haloofduty
      The guy tru11 makes absolutely no sense lol. How can anyone agree with that logic? Common sense is not prevailing in this thread. Are you really arguing that if someone is getting frozen out they shouldn't quit? What lol

      Sounds like your a member of one of the squads that beat up on randoms and dont want them to quit so you can continuously beat up on them all game.
      If people want to quit then they should quit.
      No arguing that at all.

      Everyone has the right to be selfish and do just that.
      Just dont act like you have the team in mind when you decide to quit.

      I play solo and i dont quit.
      I play defense , i set screens, i grab rebounds, i give help defense, i try to get the ball to the open man and i rarely take bad shots.
      Everything for that A+ teamgrade basicially and if we win then its an added bonus.

      No different then PTFO when playing COD or BF.

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      • tru11
        MVP
        • Aug 2010
        • 1816

        #48
        Re: The cynical irony of punishing people for quitting out of games

        Originally posted by Iasounis
        Some of y'all also sound like the bad teammates that expect me to run around to get open, set screens to get YOU open, and play defense, while you go 1-10.

        It's a perspective as to what's worse.
        i dont expect anything from anyone online as pretty much everyone is selfish and will do what is right for them.

        I will be running around trying to get open , set screens , lock up my man, give help defense and boxout.
        I will also make the extra pass if someone else has a better shot.

        I will do this regardless of what my team is doing wether they involve me or freeze me out.

        Quite frankly going into JRC solo i already expect them to freeze me out , be very bad teammates or plain out just quit once we are behind.

        Anything different from this is just an added bonus.

        This is the way of online gaming and its been this way for decades and it wont change.

        Expect the worse, hope for the better.

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        • howardphillips214
          MVP
          • Jan 2018
          • 1928

          #49
          Re: The cynical irony of punishing people for quitting out of games

          Originally posted by tru11
          i dont expect anything from anyone online as pretty much everyone is selfish and will do what is right for them.

          I will be running around trying to get open , set screens , lock up my man, give help defense and boxout.
          I will also make the extra pass if someone else has a better shot.

          I will do this regardless of what my team is doing wether they involve me or freeze me out.

          Quite frankly going into JRC solo i already expect them to freeze me out , be very bad teammates or plain out just quit once we are behind.

          Anything different from this is just an added bonus.

          This is the way of online gaming and its been this way for decades and it wont change.

          Expect the worse, hope for the better.
          Well... Keep fighting the good fight. You can die on that hill if you want, but it'll be a lonely death.

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          • Iasounis
            Pro
            • Oct 2012
            • 668

            #50
            Re: The cynical irony of punishing people for quitting out of games

            Originally posted by tru11
            i dont expect anything from anyone online as pretty much everyone is selfish and will do what is right for them.

            I will be running around trying to get open , set screens , lock up my man, give help defense and boxout.
            I will also make the extra pass if someone else has a better shot.

            I will do this regardless of what my team is doing wether they involve me or freeze me out.

            Quite frankly going into JRC solo i already expect them to freeze me out , be very bad teammates or plain out just quit once we are behind.

            Anything different from this is just an added bonus.

            This is the way of online gaming and its been this way for decades and it wont change.

            Expect the worse, hope for the better.
            So just got of a REC game where the 74ovr SF decided he wasn't gonna play defense (his man scored 28 on 12 shot attempts) while he shot a blistering 0-9. SG quit after going 4-14. Neither had an assist. I had a total of 4 shot attempts (3-4).

            I stayed because the game was close through 3, but this is exactly what I'm talking about. Some may say I'm selfish for not wanting to sit through that!!?? Bruh...
            PSN: KarlMarx24

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            • ksuttonjr76
              All Star
              • Nov 2004
              • 8662

              #51
              Re: The cynical irony of punishing people for quitting out of games

              Originally posted by Housh123
              This isnt true

              When ppl freeze you out you get no XP and if you do happen to be the only guy on a team that is playing smart the other team will just double team you and youll be forced to pass to bums who will likely not get many points off your passes.


              You must be a big because only a big can really still get his 20 boards and 10 points on a trash team. Iv had games at PG where I was the only one with a brain and i started seeing doubles before halfcourt, so i pass and the ball NEVER finds its way back to me so i end up with 3 shots all game when a bum had 20 because I was forced to pass.
              Funny...they sure double team my *** hard when I play "smart". This whole time I thought I was a good player , but you're right. Take me out of the game, and you remove someone who's looking to get everyone involved versus someone who will use the meta.

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              • howardphillips214
                MVP
                • Jan 2018
                • 1928

                #52
                Re: The cynical irony of punishing people for quitting out of games

                I played a game last night. We actually had a 10 point lead going into the 4th. One person quit or got DCed before the game started. So we only had 4 players. Anyways, i was PF and our C had the Sharp Takeover so it was working out. I could crash and he would space. After 3 they switched the match up and had their 7'3 guarding me and the stretch 5 that had 3 points through 3 quarters because i was guarding him was guarding our C. I think it's funny because up to that point i had 14 points and 14 rebounds, they were hitting me on cuts, and because i was guarding a stretch i was constantly on the break.

                What happened is when they made the switch, instead of still feeding me, i got a terrible layup animation blocked from behind so they threw out all past experience and started throwing up terrible shots. Of course, since switching the match up i was unable to grab offensive rebounds anymore because the C was just camping in the paint.

                I just think it's funny that i could carry them through 3 quarters with them taking decent shots and kicking back out, but as soon as i got blocked they decided even tho they were 0-7 at that point, it was a good idea to keep launching.

                Good teams will adapt to a bad match up. Randoms have no clue that when they drive the paint, my man rotates and I'm sitting perfectly in position for a weakside alley.

                There was a 2 way slasher guard on our team that had 3 charge attempts called on him because i would cut after setting a screen, but he drives right into my man who left me to guard him.

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                • splashmountain
                  Pro
                  • Aug 2016
                  • 809

                  #53
                  Re: The cynical irony of punishing people for quitting out of games

                  Originally posted by Erithtotl
                  Two things:

                  1st I find the way people react to playing an OP team more telling. If people still try to play as a team and compete against the 5 99s, then its possible to at least have a decent experience, even though you get blown out. Problem is if they don't quit, the majority of players just become selfish idiots when faced with that situation, just making bad things far worse.

                  2nd is that if you have over a 95 player, it means your rating takes an automatic hit. That system needs to be fixed. Its also the driver of why you see those 99 stacked teams in rec, as there is way more to lose by risking a loss than to gain by winning.
                  Lies lies and more lies. lol. ERith, i go in the rec as a random with randoms and as a squad with friends. i've done both. and you do see way to many 99 overalls. way too many. and its 99 overall full squads coming in there just to pad stats and keep their 99s because this year you'll lose it if you lose.

                  its a horrible experience when playing 99 overall players. why? not because they are so great at the game. but because this game is so badge heavy and boost heavy. getting to a 99 and throw in your other paid boosts and work out boosts. and you have a demi gawd. who the hell wants to play vs demigawds? this 2k installment does not promote great bball iq over badges and boosts. its the other way around. dont run into a 99 defender. you might as well quit or get to glitching to boost your guy up fast like most of them did. most 99s are not legit 99s to begin with. they did all sorts of glitches to get there. not that i care. you paid the money for the game do with it as you please. but unlike in older 2ks, you can no longer hang vs those level players that are also in a squad together. you will not win as a random that doesnt have 99s on your team as well. the amount of missed layups, missed full bar releases, 2k forced throw aways, and the lack of rebounds and loose balls you should get due to position but you wont due to ratings vs their higher ratings will make the game lopsided every single time.
                  so please miss us all with the "get good" speech.

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                  • splashmountain
                    Pro
                    • Aug 2016
                    • 809

                    #54
                    Re: The cynical irony of punishing people for quitting out of games

                    Originally posted by Iasounis
                    So just got of a REC game where the 74ovr SF decided he wasn't gonna play defense (his man scored 28 on 12 shot attempts) while he shot a blistering 0-9. SG quit after going 4-14. Neither had an assist. I had a total of 4 shot attempts (3-4).

                    I stayed because the game was close through 3, but this is exactly what I'm talking about. Some may say I'm selfish for not wanting to sit through that!!?? Bruh...
                    happens a lot. i actually pray they all quit in these scenarios. just let me have 4 cpu players and let me fin for myself. sure a more seasoned team will know how to juke and shake the shoes off the cpu and pull up for 3 after 3. but if they dont know the cheese vs the cpu. I have a 50/50 chance of winning. because at least the cpu will take and make open shots more often than human players that dont have their OP badges and overalls. ai's dont blow layups most times. and they are quicker to the basket as well as quicker to pass it to you and one another. they do not suffer from server/connection lag. nor do they suffer from defender badge/intimidator forced animations like human players do.

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                    • ksuttonjr76
                      All Star
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 8662

                      #55
                      Re: The cynical irony of punishing people for quitting out of games

                      Originally posted by Hustle Westbrook
                      I don’t know about Pro-Am and other modes with multiple human players but from a PNO and MTU perspective If I’m beating someone by 20-30+ points I would much appreciate someone just quitting and saving me the time so I can play in another match.

                      I remember I was getting washed by 30 and quit and the game locked me out for about 5 minutes and I thought that was the lamest **** ever. We’re all grown ups here with things and this is a video game not real life. If someone quits just give them the L and let’s keep it moving.

                      Only thing I wish is that they would let me see my stats after the person rage quits LOL.
                      I'm not going to lie. I'm the SAME way. In 1v1, if I'm smashing my opponent, I don't look down upon them for quitting. In fact, I prefer it that way. In some cases, I understand it. NBA 2K is one those game that will make you rage quit. In PNO, it's already bad enough that you're getting the brakes beaten off you for 15+ points, but then the GAME will do something stupid like your AI teammate pick up a flagrant foul for no reason, or your opponent will have a possession where they snatched down 4 rebounds in a row.

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                      • Housh123
                        Banned
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 1173

                        #56
                        Re: The cynical irony of punishing people for quitting out of games

                        Originally posted by tru11
                        i dont expect anything from anyone online as pretty much everyone is selfish and will do what is right for them.

                        I will be running around trying to get open , set screens , lock up my man, give help defense and boxout.
                        I will also make the extra pass if someone else has a better shot.

                        I will do this regardless of what my team is doing wether they involve me or freeze me out.

                        Quite frankly going into JRC solo i already expect them to freeze me out , be very bad teammates or plain out just quit once we are behind.

                        Anything different from this is just an added bonus.

                        This is the way of online gaming and its been this way for decades and it wont change.

                        Expect the worse, hope for the better.
                        This mindset is why I went from getting maybe 4000 rec games a year in to maybe having less than 1000 in this year. The game just ISNT fun.

                        Im old school, as soon as I stop having FUN i trash that game. 2K is wildly fun but that fun is dependent on the 4 dudes on your team. That would be ok if we had matchmaking for players who dont have 7000 friends. If I could get a good game every time i ran rec, Id have over 4000 games in this year.

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                        • SergentSandwich
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2013
                          • 103

                          #57
                          Re: The cynical irony of punishing people for quitting out of games

                          Originally posted by Housh123
                          This mindset is why I went from getting maybe 4000 rec games a year in to maybe having less than 1000 in this year. The game just ISNT fun.



                          Im old school, as soon as I stop having FUN i trash that game. 2K is wildly fun but that fun is dependent on the 4 dudes on your team. That would be ok if we had matchmaking for players who dont have 7000 friends. If I could get a good game every time i ran rec, Id have over 4000 games in this year.


                          so basically if your teammates aren’t passing you the ball every possession and you feel that the game isn’t going the way YOU want it to go you quit? maybe don’t play a coop game if you aren’t going to work with your teammates and are just going to quit at the first sign of adversity. i have some games where i’m being frozen out by the higher overall players but i still try to play smart basketball because that’s what the game is about, trying to win. you sound like a bad teammate i have to say, if you are just going to quit then go play offline and when the cpu is beating you and you don’t want to waste time you can quit but quitting online just makes it boring for your other teammates who are actually trying to play coop. you clearly want to play the game your way so go play solo kid


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                          • TheFinalEvent97
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2016
                            • 1519

                            #58
                            Re: The cynical irony of punishing people for quitting out of games

                            Originally posted by SergentSandwich
                            so basically if your teammates aren’t passing you the ball every possession and you feel that the game isn’t going the way YOU want it to go you quit? maybe don’t play a coop game if you aren’t going to work with your teammates and are just going to quit at the first sign of adversity. i have some games where i’m being frozen out by the higher overall players but i still try to play smart basketball because that’s what the game is about, trying to win. you sound like a bad teammate i have to say, if you are just going to quit then go play offline and when the cpu is beating you and you don’t want to waste time you can quit but quitting online just makes it boring for your other teammates who are actually trying to play coop. you clearly want to play the game your way so go play solo kid


                            Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports
                            Did you actually read what you quoted? He doesn't enjoy playing Rec as much as he did in previous 2k's so he plays it less, mainly due to the horrifically bad matchmaking. Nothing to do with wanting the ball every possession or being a quitter.
                            Last edited by TheFinalEvent97; 01-07-2020, 02:27 AM.

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                            • tru11
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 1816

                              #59
                              Re: The cynical irony of punishing people for quitting out of games

                              Originally posted by Iasounis
                              So just got of a REC game where the 74ovr SF decided he wasn't gonna play defense (his man scored 28 on 12 shot attempts) while he shot a blistering 0-9. SG quit after going 4-14. Neither had an assist. I had a total of 4 shot attempts (3-4).

                              I stayed because the game was close through 3, but this is exactly what I'm talking about. Some may say I'm selfish for not wanting to sit through that!!?? Bruh...
                              Where the other 2 teammates you did not mention AI or users?

                              AI i doubt anyone would find it selfish.
                              Users then yeah it would be to me.

                              Either way if you want to quit then just quit.

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                              • tru11
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2010
                                • 1816

                                #60
                                Re: The cynical irony of punishing people for quitting out of games

                                Originally posted by Housh123
                                This mindset is why I went from getting maybe 4000 rec games a year in to maybe having less than 1000 in this year. The game just ISNT fun.

                                Im old school, as soon as I stop having FUN i trash that game. 2K is wildly fun but that fun is dependent on the 4 dudes on your team. That would be ok if we had matchmaking for players who dont have 7000 friends. If I could get a good game every time i ran rec, Id have over 4000 games in this year.
                                Old school people need a lot more then just fun to consider quitting anything tbh.

                                Matchmaking certainly is an issue.

                                Id love to play with and against people who are not in a squad, have a A- or higher grade and less then a 10% quit percentage.

                                Sadly im playing mostly against squads with bad teammates who quit as soon as something is not to their liking.

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