NBA 2K20 Player Rating Edit Guide

[Retrokicker13]

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Your work is amazing, and much appreciated my man! I'm working on cleaning up/polishing players/teams as we speak... My work is focused more on rotations/signature moves/tendencies and shoes. Starting with the 19-20 roster, the plan is to also do this with the classic rosters + adding/removing players. Want to actually have the best 15 guys for each franchise...

Long story short, do you plan on doing this with all current rosters? Already added your Bucks work and really think we can collab to make a very realistic roster.

I'll be back frequently dude. Love your work so far!

PSN: Duffmando
roster: 2kNOW

[yilyang]

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Great work as many other years. I have a question. In your roster, did you fix tendencies also or just ratings? Thanks.

[SteboSSK]

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Can we get a Lebron, AD and Brandon Ingram breakdown?

[jdizzle45]

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How about mj, or the whole 96 bulls team would be appreciated?

[AlvinM_1998]

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Will be implementing these in a new MyLeague. Can I get one for Steph? He always seems to average ~7 rebounds and 8+ assists per game in sims.

[Real2KInsider]

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Will be implementing these in a new MyLeague. Can I get one for Steph? He always seems to average ~7 rebounds and 8+ assists per game in sims.

Just to clarify... this year Curry's per36 averages were 27-7-9

[AlvinM_1998]

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Just to clarify... this year Curry's per36 averages were 27-7-9

Oh my bad then nevermind.

[DiceMan]

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Thank you for this Rashidi, after a long road I've finally found my holy grail for 2k20. I cant even describe the things I'm seeing other than to say I've picked my jaw up @ least 4 times already in one game. Outstanding job.

[Real2KInsider]

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By popular demand.... the 2020 New York Knicks

My favorite aspect of this deep dive is that it illustrated what the organization is doing wrong, from top to bottom. Players, coaches, GM, it's all in the data. Especially when we compare them against a team like the Bucks (my previous full edit), who have done everything right.

STARTERS
83 (+1) Julius Randle (PF): Interior Force
80 (+2) Elfrid Payton (PG): Slashing Playmaker
78 (+1) Maurice Harkless (SF/PF): Slasher
77 (+1) R.J. Barrett (SG/SF): Offense Initiator
77 (-1) Taj Gibson (C): 2-Way Mid-Range Finisher
BENCH
82 (-1) Mitchell Robinson (C): Glass-Cleaning Finisher
80 (+2) Bobby Portis (PF/C): 3-Level Scorer
76 (+4) Reggie Bullock (SG/SF): Sharpshooter
75 (+2) Frank Ntilikina (PG): 2-Way Mid-Range Scorer
74 (+1) Damyean Dotson (SG/SF): Sharpshooter
74 (+2) Dennis Smith Jr (PG): Offense Initiator
73 (+1) Kevin Knox (SF/PF): Floor-Spacing Slasher
73 (+1) Wayne Ellington (SG): 3pt Specialist
RESERVE
76 (+1) Allonzo Trier (SG): Shot Creator
73 (+1) Kadeem Allen (PG): 2-Way 3pt Shot Creator
71 (+2) Ignas Brazdeikis (SF): Inside-Out Scorer
69 (NC) Kenny Wooten (PF/C): Interior Big

[Real2KInsider]

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Julius Randle
Position: PF
H/W/A: 6’8” / 250 lbs / 25 years
Archetype: 2-Way Slashing Four (from Slashing Four)
83 Overall (+1)

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OFFENSE
85 Driving Layup (-3)
85 Post Fadeaway (+25)
75 Post Hook (-4)
85 Post Control (+6)
80 Draw Foul (+6)
87 Shot Close (+1)
71 Shot Mid (-4)
73 Shot 3pt (+7)
73 Free Throw (+3)
85 Ball Control (+13)
60 Pass Vision (-4)
65 Pass IQ (-9)
60 Pass Accuracy (+5)
63 Offensive Rebound (+3)
70 Standing Dunk (-15)
70 Driving Dunk (-15)
90 Shot IQ (+5)
95 Hands (NC)

It is evident from briefly watching Randle that he lives off his fadeaway. Back to the basket, or step back off the dribble, it makes little difference. Randle only hit 20 hook shots this year, and 26 last year. 2K has his post game completely backwards.

While athletic for his size, Randle lacks explosion. Contrary to what 2K would have you believe, there's simply no comparison between Randle and Giannis when it comes to finishing at the rim.

Unfortunately, Randle (64-231 3PT, 28%) isn't much better at shooting than Giannis either.
In fact, Giannis (83-271 3PT, 31%) likely passed him this year.

Randle boasts a high Iso rate, as he routinely takes defenders off the dribble. One might say you can't hold a candle to Randle's handle. Let's never speak of this again.

DEFENSE
86 Defensive Rebound (+1)
80 Interior Defense (+13)
70 Perimeter Defense (+17)
45 Block (-2)
60 Steal (+20)
70 Shot Contest (-1)
70 Reaction Time (-1)

Randle doesn't have the greatest awareness, and isn't athletic enough to be a shot blocker. His position defense is fine, mainly owing to his strength and quick feet.

ATHLETICISM
65 Lateral Quickness (-2)
75 Speed (+2)
75 Ball Speed (+7)
75 Acceleration (-1)
70 Vertical (+1)
85 Strength (-2)
95 Stamina (+10)
85 Hustle (NC)
85 Durability (NC)

MENTAL
60 Pass Perception (+8)
65 Offensive Consistency (-20)
75 Defensive Consistency (+15)
75 PNR Defense (+6)
60 Help Defense (-9)
80 Intangibles (-15)
85 Potential (+2)

Consistency. Alas. Randle has games where he looks like an unstoppable force. He has just as many games where he decimates his own team with turnovers and erratic shooting.

After stumbling this season in a lead role, his upside is far less certain. He seems destined to merely be a good scorer on a bad team, as his value is in shot creation and he lacks complimentary skills. His best years came as a sixth man off the bench, and that's probably his long-term future on a more competitive team. Can he improve his shooting and playmaking the way Blake Griffin did as his athleticism waned?

22 BADGES (+11)
FINISHING (10): Backdown Punisher (S-U1), Contact Finisher (S-U1), Cross-Key Scorer (S), Fancy Footwork (S-U1), Putback Boss (S), Acrobat (B), Consistent Finisher (B), Dropstepper (B-ADD), Pick & Roller (B), Slithery Finisher (B)
SHOOTING (5): Deep Fades (B-ADD), Difficult Shots (B-ADD), Pump Fake Maestro (B-ADD), Tireless Shooter (B-ADD), Volume Shooter (B-ADD)
PLAYMAKING (4): Bail Out (B-ADD), Handles For Days (B-ADD), Post Spin Technician (B-ADD), Quick First Step (B-ADD)
DEFENSE (3): Box (B-ADD), Brick Wall (B-ADD), Moving Truck (B)
PERSONALITY (2): Expressive, Legendary Work Ethic
REMOVE (1): Lob City Finisher (B)

[Real2KInsider]

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Elfrid Payton
Position: PG
H/W/A: 6’3” / 195 lbs / 25 years
Archetype: Slashing Playmaker (from 2-Way Playmaker)
80 Overall (+2)

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In 2019 Payton recorded 5 consecutive triple doubles - a feat only accomplished by Jordan, Oscar, Wilt, and Westbrook. He's obviously nowhere close to those players as a scorer, yet his playmaking and all-around game should not be doubted. He shares many of the same traits as a young Rajon Rondo (for better and worse).

OFFENSE
85 Driving Layup (+8)
40 Post Fadeaway (+8)
40 Post Hook (+15)
40 Post Control (+15)
50 Draw Foul (-19)
79 Shot Close (NC)
78 Shot Mid (-1)
65 Shot 3pt (+7)
57 Free Throw (+5)
90 Ball Control (+4)
88 Pass Vision (+4)
90 Pass IQ (+9)
95 Pass Accuracy (+15)
46 Offensive Rebound (-1)
40 Standing Dunk (+15)
60 Driving Dunk (+10)
84 Shot IQ (+2)
95 Hands (NC)

DEFENSE
61 Defensive Rebound (NC)
50 Interior Defense (+25)
70 Perimeter Defense (-10)
48 Block (-8)
83 Steal (-3)
75 Shot Contest (+1)
75 Reaction Time (+1)

ATHLETICISM
85 Lateral Quickness (+3)
80 Speed (+4)
80 Ball Speed (+5)
85 Acceleration (+2)
70 Vertical (-7)
50 Strength (-8)
90 Stamina (+10)
90 Hustle (+2)
85 Durability (+5)

MENTAL
80 Pass Perception (+10)
55 Offensive Consistency (-15)
70 Defensive Consistency (-5)
80 PNR Defense (NC)
75 Help Defense (+5)
80 Intangibles (-15)
85 Potential (+7)

Only 25 years old, there’s still some upside here. Make no mistake, he's a starting PG (and sadly, one of the best the Knicks have had the last decade). From a talent perspective, his 8M team option is a steal. He simply doesn't fit long-term in a backcourt with Barrett. It wouldn't surprise me to see the Knicks pick up the option and then figure out a trade later.

(As an aside, is it fair to call Ben Simmons a rich man's Elfrid Payton?)

10 BADGES (+4)
FINISHING (2): Acrobat (B-ADD), Putback Boss (B)
PLAYMAKING (6): Dimer (S-U1), Needle Threader (S-U1), Ankle Breaker (B-ADD), Bail Out (B), Floor General (B-ADD), Lob City Passer (B), Pass Fake Maestro (B)
DEFENSE (2): Interceptor (B-ADD), Pick Dodger (B-ADD)
PERSONALITY (1): Laid Back

A quick look at other pass-first PGs
Ricky Rubio: 16.3 PER, 53 TS%, 40 AST%, 20 USG% (16M salary)
Elfrid Payton: 16.0 PER, 47 TS%, 39 AST%, 20 USG%, (8M salary)
Markelle Fultz: 14.4 PER, 52 TS%, 29 AST%, 21 USG% (10M salary)
Lonzo Ball: 13.7 PER, 53 TS%, 29 AST%, 19 USG% (9M salary)

[Real2KInsider]

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Maurice Harkless
Position: SF/PF
H/W/A: 6’7” / 220 lbs / 26 years
Archetype: Slasher (from 3pt Specialist)
78 Overall (+6)

Harkless holds the title of most underrated Knick and it isn't even close. A starter the last four years, 2K somehow has Harkless rated lower than Kevin Knox.

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^Don’t be fooled by this one. Harkless shot 2-18 in his other 11 games with the Knicks.

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OFFENSE
75 Driving Layup (-3)
55 Post Fadeaway (+13)
55 Post Hook (+15)
70 Post Control (+30)
60 Draw Foul (+23)
67 Shot Close (-2)
57 Shot Mid (-1)
78 Shot 3pt (-3)
59 Free Throw (+3)
70 Ball Control (+7)
48 Pass Vision (+18)
50 Pass IQ (+2)
55 Pass Accuracy (-10)
45 Offensive Rebound (-1)
55 Standing Dunk (NC)
90 Driving Dunk (+6)
63 Shot IQ (-7)
85 Hands (NC)

Harkless has a post game, even if he didn't show it much this year.

Post Possessions
2020: 12 (4.3%)
2019: 58 (12.6%)
2018: 44 (12.1%)
2017: 97 (12.7%)

His reduced touches were clearly due to playing w/ Kawhi on the Clippers.

DEFENSE
58 Defensive Rebound (+3)
55 Interior Defense (-10)
75 Perimeter Defense (-5)
55 Block (-7)
71 Steal (+12)
85 Shot Contest (+25)
80 Reaction Time (+20)

Defensively, Harkless has a solid rep. He's a bit too foul prone for me to consider him a "stopper". He's a step below the Kawhi Leonard's and Paul George's of the world - unlikely to ever make an All-Defensive team. Despite that, he's vastly better than any other wing on the NY roster.

ATHLETICISM
80 Lateral Quickness (+4)
75 Speed (+3)
65 Ball Speed (+4)
75 Acceleration (-1)
80 Vertical (-2)
65 Strength (+20)
85 Stamina (NC)
85 Hustle (+6)
85 Durability (NC)

The only thing more erratic than Julius Randle's jumpshot are 2K's athleticism ratings.

MENTAL
80 Pass Perception (+16)
50 Offensive Consistency (+10)
65 Defensive Consistency (-5)
75 PNR Defense (-4)
85 Help Defense (+7)
80 Intangibles (+40)
80 Potential (+4)

Three points worth of OVR can be traced to that Intangibles discrepancy.

9 BADGES (+5)
FINISHING (3): Lob City Finisher (B-ADD), Putback Boss (B-ADD), Relentless Finisher (B-ADD)
SHOOTING (1): Corner Specialist (B-ADD)
DEFENSE (5): Chase Down Artist (S), Interceptor (B-ADD), Lightning Reflexes (B), Off-Ball Pest (B), Pick Dodger (B)
PERSONALITY (2): Laid Back, Team Player

[zten11]

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Would anyone be interested in me doing one of these for my roster on Xbox? My overalls are definitely lower.

All credit goes to Rashidi for the idea and getting everyone engaged on this.

[Real2KInsider]

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R.J. Barrett
Position: SG/SF
H/W/A: 6’6” / 214 lbs / 19 years
Archetype: Offense Initiator
77 Overall (+1)

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OFFENSE
80 Driving Layup (+3)
65 Post Fadeaway (+5)
55 Post Hook (+3)
65 Post Control (+6)
80 Draw Foul (+12)
55 Shot Close (+2)
57 Shot Mid (-6)
78 Shot 3pt (+3)
61 Free Throw (+3)
85 Ball Control (+4)
56 Pass Vision (+9)
60 Pass IQ (-14)
60 Pass Accuracy (-15)
40 Offensive Rebound (-1)
45 Standing Dunk (NC)
80 Driving Dunk (+5)
77 Shot IQ (NC)
85 Hands (NC)

Shooting Stats (48 TS% on 24 USG%)
Rim: 162-285 (57%)
Close: 52-193 (27%)
Mid: 15-52 (29%)
3pt: 63-197 (32%)
FT: 156-254 (61%)

Barrett wasn't an efficient scorer in college, and that came to a head in the pros. As was the case at Duke, the spacing around him was terrible, leading to difficult shots.

DEFENSE
62 Defensive Rebound (NC)
45 Interior Defense (-13)
70 Perimeter Defense (+1)
44 Block (-7)
67 Steal (+21)
75 Shot Contest (NC)
75 Reaction Time (NC)

ATHLETICISM
80 Lateral Quickness (+1)
85 Speed (+1)
85 Ball Speed (+3)
85 Acceleration (NC)
80 Vertical (-2)
60 Strength (+6)
90 Stamina (-5)
80 Hustle (NC)
85 Durability (+5)

MENTAL
65 Pass Perception (+10)
50 Offensive Consistency (-35)
50 Defensive Consistency (+5)
80 PNR Defense (+11)
60 Help Defense (-4)
80 Intangibles (-5)
90 Potential (+1)

IMO the decision to start Barrett irrespective of results was a big mistake and one the organization needs to learn from. They took a similar approach with Kevin Knox last season, and it failed miserably.

Barrett and Randle are not going to be able to play together. They're natural slashers and neither one stretches the floor for the other. The Knicks have FIVE shooting guards and Barrett is easily the worst shooter of the bunch. If Randle is the veteran and team leader (i.e. you can't bring him off the bench), then they should have used Barrett as a sixth man.

A good parallel to this is Donte DiVincenzo in Milwaukee. A natural slasher, DDV is a better overall player than Wesley Matthews. Matthews starts because his outside shooting compliments Giannis and Bledsoe better. As a result, DDV has more freedom in the 2nd unit. He's put in a position to succeed. The Bulls likewise did this with Coby White, rather than playing he and Zach LaVine together.

23 BADGES (+6)
FINISHING (9): Acrobat (S-ADD), Consistent Finisher (S-ADD), Contact Finisher (S-U1), Pro Touch (S-ADD), Relentless Finisher (S-U1), Cross-Key Scorer (B), Fastbreak Finisher (B), Showtime (B), Slithery Finisher (B-ADD)
SHOOTING (5): Difficult Shots (B), Flexible Release (B), Hot Start (B), Tireless Shooter (B), Volume Shooter (B)
PLAYMAKING (8): Bail Out (B), Break Starter (B), Downhill (B-ADD), Lob City Passer (B), Needle Threader (B), Pass Fake Maestro (B), Quick First Step (B-ADD), Space Creator (B)
DEFENSE (1): Rebound Chaser (B-ADD)
PERSONALITY (1): Expressive
REMOVE: Slippery Off-Ball (B)

Despite Barrett's inefficiency, even briefly watching him one can tell he has tools at his disposal most 19-year olds only dream of. Body control is impeccable and has nowhere to go but up over the next 10 years.

James Harden was likewise a #3 overall pick (notably, a sixth man for three years), and there are a lot of similarities between the two. Yet Harden was ALWAYS a good shooter (dating back to college), and that's the facet of his game that makes him unguardable. There aren't exactly many 61% FT shooters that become career 86% shooters.

[Real2KInsider]

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Taj Gibson
Position: C
H/W/A: 6’9” / 232 lbs / 34 years
Archetype: 2-Way Mid-Range Finisher (from Mid-Range Finisher)
77 Overall (-1)

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OFFENSE
75 Driving Layup (+10)
65 Post Fadeaway (-15)
85 Post Hook (+3)
80 Post Control (-2)
50 Draw Foul (-10)
90 Shot Close (+1)
84 Shot Mid (-5)
69 Shot 3pt (NC)
73 Free Throw (+13)
45 Ball Control (+10)
49 Pass Vision (+13)
50 Pass IQ (-4)
50 Pass Accuracy (+17)
81 Offensive Rebound (+6)
75 Standing Dunk (+NC)
70 Driving Dunk (+5)
65 Shot IQ (-30)
75 Hands (-2)

2K does a pretty poor job w/ their post ratings. Gibson's always been a hook shot guy. His jumpers (90% assisted) are of the catch & shoot variety.

DEFENSE
68 Defensive Rebound (-6)
85 Interior Defense (+16)
60 Perimeter Defense (+2)
63 Block (-2)
62 Steal (+21)
85 Shot Contest (-1)
75 Reaction Time (+17)

ATHLETICISM
60 Lateral Quickness (+3)
60 Speed (+11)
50 Ball Speed (+18)
50 Acceleration (+4)
45 Vertical (-13)
70 Strength (-13)
70 Stamina (NC)
95 Hustle (NC)
90 Durability (+10)

MENTAL
60 Pass Perception (-2)
45 Offensive Consistency (-35)
55 Defensive Consistency (-10)
85 PNR Defense (+15)
70 Help Defense (-8)
80 Intangibles (-15)
80 Potential (+2)

The primary reason Gibson started this year was to keep Mitchell Robinson out of foul woes. He's a NY native and his leadership is an important part of the locker room. However, with a 10M option for a 16 MPG role, the Knicks can afford to renegotiate here.

10 BADGES (+5)
FINISHING (6): Backdown Punisher (S), Pick & Roller (S), Putback Boss (S-U1), Consistent Finisher (B-ADD), Contact Finisher (B-ADD), Dropstepper (B-ADD)
PLAYMAKING (1): Post Spin Technician (B-ADD)
DEFENSE (3): Brick Wall (B-ADD), Moving Truck (B), Post Move Lockdown (B-ADD)
PERSONALITY (1): Expressive
REMOVE: Pick & Popper (S)