Updated Shooting Difficulty In Patch 1.02 (Feedback)

[Thrustie]

Re: Updated Shooting Difficulty In Patch 1.02 (Feedback)

Yeah it doesn’t appear that shooting is more difficult for shooters with good stats in Rec/Park. I still see guys hitting 70%+ “open” 3s off the dribble or otherwise. It does appear that they nerfed “middle tier” shooters. So players with 65-80 are less effective, especially outside of the corners, which helps a bit.

Unfortunately the changes they made weren’t really enough to significantly change the meta. Instead you have most players picking playmaking shot creators who have all the stats/badges to allow them to play even more effectively than Sharpshooters in past years due to better dribble and defense attributes/badges. As a result, the online game experience in myplayer modes is very similar to last year.

I still enjoy the game, don’t get me wrong. Just wish it was better balanced to the point that ball and player movement were the key to success instead of a guy with good timing dribbling at the top of the arc behind a screen while everyone watches.


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[Kayotick]

Re: Updated Shooting Difficulty In Patch 1.02 (Feedback)

Prior to the patch I was able to hit a decent amount of greens without the shot meter on. Now post patch it's not possible to hit green's with the shot meter off unless you turn on shot feedback which was not the case prior to this update. WHY!!! There are people who prefer to not play with the meter on or feedback and get rewarded for a perfect shot. This is probably a bug introduced.

[ataman5]

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This post patch design of the aim has a problem online.

As we already know post patch, if we move the RS down fast the meter is on the right and if we move RS slowly then it's on the left; but in online games latency and/or packet loss can be in full effect which result server getting inputs as if it's fast when i push it slow or the other way around at times of big input lags.

So basically the aim shooting was a great addition to negate input lag(it was welcomed on that part mostly) but with post patch the new design of the aim erased that advantage and it is now totally gone, and aim is again in ways similarly related to input timing in practice as if we time the shots in input lag/latency situations and which mostly happens with 2k.

I hope @Beluba sees this. I can elaborate even further if needed.

So inconsistincies are even further now.

[The Human Tripod]

Re: Updated Shooting Difficulty In Patch 1.02 (Feedback)

I don't know what the hell has been done to this game but the shooting is completely broken. I've done all the stuff that has been mentioned, turned off the shot meter, using the button, turned off aiming, etc. Can't hit a damn thing in play now and myteam using real life NBA players. Playing on pro difficulty as well. Entire ****ing game sucks.

[wisdom less13]

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I don't know what the hell has been done to this game but the shooting is completely broken. I've done all the stuff that has been mentioned, turned off the shot meter, using the button, turned off aiming, etc. Can't hit a damn thing in play now and myteam using real life NBA players. Playing on pro difficulty as well. Entire ****ing game sucks.

I use shot aiming and absolutely light the CPU up on Pro. HoF? Not so much. Superstar? A bit better. All-Star or below, I'm hitting more than enough. You'll get it...

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[COMMISSIONERHBK9]

Re: Updated Shooting Difficulty In Patch 1.02 (Feedback)

any updates on when pc will finally get the patch. we are 2 patch behind. i would like to try out the shooting also. right now the shooting is bad for me. the freezing this is the like the worst gaming expereince i ever had. if i knew this i would forget mods and stick to console

[Beluba]

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I've hit Mike up quite a few times about side steps. I havent heard anything back as of yet.

You are spot on about practice.

The catch animation in practice is different than in game somehow. So if you are like me and "queue" your jumper before you even catch the ball, the meter will end up far left. In game you have a little bit more leeway to decide

I'm literally popping my RS stick to get consistency across the court, lol....but certain shot types are tricky.

I don’t recall anything changing with side step threes between the demo and ship. Anyone able to clip a video of the exact shot you’re talking about?


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[alabamarob]

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I don’t recall anything changing with side step threes between the demo and ship. Anyone able to clip a video of the exact shot you’re talking about?


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I will re download the demo, so that I can show you. The demo allowed you to push the Left stick left or right and push the shot stick to shoot a side step jumper in either direction. That would include off the dribble and from the triple threat. In the retail version you can not do this, unless you pumpfake first or hold down the Left trigger to branch out of the back to the basket position.

[Guard-ian]

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In my case I am loving more and more this new rithm shooting aim where at least I can control if the target will be on the left or right depending on my speed deflecting the stick... To me it is a great addition, it seems that doesn't work like that for layups though.

I also love the posibility to put the shoot meter and feedback off so I am not seen green lights: neither mine nor from the opponent (I have to check if that's also the case online).

After two intense weeks of practice it's starting to be second nature this new way of shooting (I have to say that I combine shooting button with the stick), on Allstar I can compete against the CPU quite well already and I am having good results in the stat sheet (FG %'s and so on), so happy to continue practicing until I at least can compete in Superstar (Hall of Fame is to extreme to my like... LOL).

The only pity is that I don't want to start my MyLeague saves this season until we have the new rosters (probably in December it seems).

Cheers! ;-)

[Erithtotl]

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After playing post patch several days I'm really frustrated with this new system. I was just getting used to the old system before the change.

Its fine against the AI because you can sit still, and make sure you get exactly the window placement you want. Against human players where you are are under pressure to get the shot off quickly, or where you might be doing dribble moves and changes of direction before shooting, the radically different window placements make shooting way more difficult. I can't have to think about where the window is going to appear if I'm dribbling, scanning for passing options and watching the defender right before going up with a shot

For now I'm giving up and going back to the shot button even though I find aiming as a concept pretty satisfying.

Edit: I'll also add I play as part of a decent sized group of pretty dedicated players. Most of us had over 1500 rec games and were elites in 2k20. A lot of us had started to adopt aiming after the initial resistance and were having moderate success in online games in rec and pro-am. Now all of us are going back to button shooting because of these same issues.

[alabamarob]

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I don’t recall anything changing with side step threes between the demo and ship. Anyone able to clip a video of the exact shot you’re talking about?


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Re: Updated Shooting Difficulty In Patch 1.02 (Feedback)

So i just got the xbox version and now i have to re learn cuz I’m not used to the patch with the shooting and tips guys

[ataman5]

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I was on the fence of aim shooting pre-patch i felt i was about to get used to it after some more practice but post patch i think i'm done with aiming. It doesn't feel good as it was and it doesn't look like it will improve with any practice meter on or off.

I'm talking about HOF and Superstar difficulties, but on all-star everything is a make.

So now ima try get back to right analog shooting with timing no meter. But it's really bad on layups and around the rim stuff,too.

Well as usual 2k took one step forward opened up some stuff then took 2 steps backwards and we're even worse now.

[Mikexl]

Re: Updated Shooting Difficulty In Patch 1.02 (Feedback)

The shooting in this game is absolutely broken. Just went 2-24 from 3, all wide open shots, all with solid shooters, in Myteam. The other guy had Lillard, so he hit anything and everything, naturally.

[Guard-ian]

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I am liking the changes they did to shooting this year and aim is ok since last patch (and after becoming second nature) so to me the only real issue with shooting is that you practically have to green in order to get the ball in, I think there should be more slightly right/left or slightly early/late shoots going in, specially on wide open shots, also the impact of contests seems to be quite high currently...

Nevertheless Free Throws seems to me a little bit too easy and I just tried the related slider but didn't seem to work in a MyLeague Online.