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  • ksuttonjr76
    All Star
    • Nov 2004
    • 8662

    #61
    Re: 2K Issues Statement For Ads Appearing in NBA 2K21

    Originally posted by stickyfingers
    That's why the price of the games on the next gen will be the same ... oh wait

    Again some kind of Stockhom syndrom, or you work for 2K
    Otherwise why do you want to find excuse to a terrible behaviour ?!
    no, those ads are just to make more easy money.

    2k14-21 current gen game have the same files structure, lot of art pieces are reuse even from old gen : i dont say its the sames games but back to 2k8/15 they dont need to do that "to survive", despite they sold far fewer copies and didnt implement greedy MT.
    I cant see any major improvment of the games since 2k15 that justify any extra cost, ads when they implements MT as a core of MyPlayer/MyTeam experience.
    Why do you buy the game? If they're such a terrible company with no major improvements, then stop buying the game. I'm not defending anything. It just bugs me to death that people are complaining about an ad....during a loading screen....that appears one time.

    As for the game price...when you take in inflation and raising prices of game development, gamers are lucky to be still playing $59.99. Games have been $59.99 since the PS3/360 era. In reality, they should have been raised prices across the board. However, you won't take that in consideration, because you probably think games should be $59.99 forever.

    So yeah...those ads and microtransactions that you complain about? They are the reason why you're not paying $79.99, $89.99, or whatever for games these days. I would stop playing videogames if they ever reached those amounts. Raising prices is really the easy money.
    Last edited by ksuttonjr76; 10-21-2020, 06:03 AM.

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    • Junior Moe
      MVP
      • Jul 2009
      • 3869

      #62
      Re: 2K Issues Statement For Ads Appearing in NBA 2K21

      Originally posted by ksuttonjr76
      Why do you buy the game? If they're such a terrible company with no major improvements, then stop buying the game. I'm not defending anything. It just bugs me to death that people are complaining about an ad....during a loading screen....that appears one time.

      As for the game price...when you take in inflation and raising prices of game development, gamers are lucky to be still playing $59.99. Games have been $59.99 since the PS3/360 era. In reality, they should have been raised prices across the board. However, you won't take that in consideration, because you probably think games should be $59.99 forever.

      So yeah...those ads and microtransactions that you complain about? They are the reason why you're not paying $79.99, $89.99, or whatever for games these days. I would stop playing videogames if they ever reached those amounts. Raising prices is really the easy money.

      Companies are greedy. Surprise!! They want more of your money. Surprise!! They will take as much of your money or time (or both) as you are willing to give. Surprise!! Too much is never enough. Surprise!!! Doesn't matter if its a trillion dollar company like Amazon, or a food truck, or 2K. They literally exist to make money.



      I get upset when I see a billion dollar medical company has a monopoly on life saving medicine and jack up the price 500%. That's wrong. That affects people lives. The same principle applies, though. This is a damn videogame, a leisure product and they act like its this great injustice.



      "Why are they charging 70$ and still running ads?" More money.



      "What's the excuse for this terrible behavior?" More money.



      "These ads are to make easy money." True. The CEO said they are looking to monetize even more.


      "The old games are similar and they weren't this greedy. They didn't need to do this to survive." There is no cap on how much a company makes. The market dictates all that and clearly they had room to grow and they have.


      "I don't see any major improvements that justify extra costs and ads."



      That's fine. But all the advertisers care about is how many eyeballs the ad reaches. They don't care about our opinion of the graphics or gameplay or MyLeague. It's like a TV show, if the viewership doubles from 2 million to 8 million over the course of a 6 seasons, they don't care that season 2 was the "best". Season 6 averages 8 million viewers and we can reach a larger audience. The network can charge more for that ad slot. The show going downhill in my view is irrelevant.



      Whats funny is that the habitual complainers supposedly didn't even buy the game. Good on them. Make a stand, stand on principle. Yet and still, here they are "outraged" all the same as if they had to endure this greedy "unskippable" ad. This literally could not have impacted their gaming experience. It just goes to show you that they'll jump on anything to complain about all under the guise of "looking out for gamers" and "holding them accountable".

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      • Gramps91
        MVP
        • Sep 2010
        • 2116

        #63
        Re: 2K Issues Statement For Ads Appearing in NBA 2K21

        I don't really think one unskippable ad is the end of the world, and that reason alone certainly won't stop me from buying a game.

        I didn't buy this game because I didn't like 2k20 and nothing convinced me that 2k21 (at least on current gen) would be any better.
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        • stickyfingers
          Rookie
          • Jul 2018
          • 458

          #64
          Re: 2K Issues Statement For Ads Appearing in NBA 2K21

          Originally posted by Junior Moe
          Whats funny is that the habitual complainers supposedly didn't even buy the game. Good on them. Make a stand, stand on principle. Yet and still, here they are "outraged" all the same as if they had to endure this greedy "unskippable" ad. This literally could not have impacted their gaming experience. It just goes to show you that they'll jump on anything to complain about all under the guise of "looking out for gamers" and "holding them accountable".
          You act like if complainers are communists in the 50's and want to discredit me/us while your only "arguments" are "i dont mind", "2K is a company"

          And yes, my game experience was impacted between 2K16 and 20, thats why i didnt buy 2K21.
          Its the first 2K i didnt buy for 12 years, so habitual complainers...

          if all this money grab was used to improve the game, i still be pissed off because its still an AAA game but it would be an evil for a good.

          But its not the case, there's a reason why a lot of players still prefer 2K16 than the last 5 NBA2K games.
          while ads and MT expanded, the gameplay hadnt.
          Yeah, there's so nice small additions, but the overall experience is worse.
          2K now mostly focuses on online gaming and MT, but they even didnt improve the netcode, nor the matchmaking, which is the core of online gaming experience.

          IMO it is not a service to the community, to the devs, to the game to deny that its a problem and react like this.
          Last edited by stickyfingers; 10-21-2020, 09:13 AM.
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          • Junior Moe
            MVP
            • Jul 2009
            • 3869

            #65
            Re: 2K Issues Statement For Ads Appearing in NBA 2K21

            Originally posted by stickyfingers
            You act like if complainers are communists in the 50's and want to discredit me/us while your only "arguments" are "i dont mind", "2K is a company"

            And yes, my game experience was impacted between 2K16 and 20, thats why i didnt buy 2K21.
            Its the first 2K i didnt buy for 12 years, so habitual complainers...

            if all this money grab was used to improve the game, i still be pissed off because its still an AAA game but it would be an evil for a good.

            But its not the case, there's a reason why a lot of players still prefer 2K16 than the last 5 NBA2K games.
            while ads and MT expanded, the gameplay hadnt.
            Yeah, there's so nice small additions, but the overall experience is worse.
            2K now mostly focuses on online gaming and MT, but they even didnt improve the netcode, nor the matchmaking, which is the core of online gaming experience.

            IMO it is not a service to the community, to the devs, to the game to deny that its a problem and react like this.
            Ok, man. You got it. Better luck next generation.

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            • stickyfingers
              Rookie
              • Jul 2018
              • 458

              #66
              Re: 2K Issues Statement For Ads Appearing in NBA 2K21

              At least we're agree to have big hopes and expectations
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              • Vroman
                Pro
                • Aug 2014
                • 959

                #67
                Re: 2K Issues Statement For Ads Appearing in NBA 2K21

                We expect game to be "Next Gen"
                They expect our wallets to be "Next Gen"


                They may double down and not include this, but they for sure will try to find more and more niches to monetize the product. And development time and investment into studying the "consumer" is the major priority over anything that's for sure .

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                • The 24th Letter
                  ERA
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 39373

                  #68
                  Re: 2K Issues Statement For Ads Appearing in NBA 2K21

                  Originally posted by stickyfingers
                  i started, i havent buy 2k21 this year.
                  Good. I would hope many will follow in your footsteps if they're unhappy with the state of the game and the companies practices.

                  I hear a lot of guys who have felt this way for a while talking about purchasing the next gen game. I really dont see why. 2K isn't going to stop caring about profits November 10th. I mean, guys like Angry Joe and Jim Sterling are telling you the exact same thing.

                  I don't give a damn about EA's business model, because quite honestly, if anyone thinks these companies (now or ever) run on sunshine and gamer happiness they're fooling themselves........but I love football. I made it up in my mind for some years Madden wouldn't be a purchase for me until I see the improvements I want. Current gen, Next Gen, the gen after that. Its simple as that.
                  Last edited by The 24th Letter; 10-22-2020, 12:26 AM.

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                  • MrWrestling3
                    MVP
                    • May 2015
                    • 1146

                    #69
                    Re: 2K Issues Statement For Ads Appearing in NBA 2K21

                    Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                    Good. I would hope many will follow in your footsteps if they're unhappy with the state of the game and the companies practices.

                    I hear a lot of guys who have felt this way for a while talking about purchasing the next gen game. I really dont see why. 2K isn't going to stop caring about profits November 10th. I mean, guys like Angry Joe and Jim Sterling are telling you the exact same thing.

                    I don't give about EA's business model, because quite honestly, if anyone thinks these companies (now or ever) run on sunshine and gamer happiness they're fooling themselves........but I love football. I made it up in my mind for some years Madden wouldn't be a purchase for me until I see the improvements I want. Current gen, Next Gen, the gen after that. Its simple as that.
                    I think for some, 2K is kind of like a bad job or bad relationship....people are clearly unhappy, and many can see and understand that the situation isn't getting any better, but end up sort of hanging around in a situation they hate because they don't know what else to do or lack the capacity to make a change.

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                    • ksuttonjr76
                      All Star
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 8662

                      #70
                      Re: 2K Issues Statement For Ads Appearing in NBA 2K21

                      Originally posted by MrWrestling3
                      I think for some, 2K is kind of like a bad job or bad relationship....people are clearly unhappy, and many can see and understand that the situation isn't getting any better, but end up sort of hanging around in a situation they hate because they don't know what else to do or lack the capacity to make a change.
                      Truthfully, I think the GAMERS are the ones who make the game "terrible". I have mentioned this in other threads before, but NBA 2K feels like it's a great game out of box for some years now, and it gets "worse" because the whiners and complainers don't like a certain thing and patches are created to address it.

                      Honestly, I think it's the "CONSUMERS" they shouldn't listen to. They seem to be the one who think the NBA is nothing but highlights, dunks, and three point shots.
                      Last edited by ksuttonjr76; 10-21-2020, 11:15 AM.

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                      • Quentin32
                        Pro
                        • Sep 2015
                        • 546

                        #71
                        Re: 2K Issues Statement For Ads Appearing in NBA 2K21

                        I’m caping for 2k. This is a business. It costs a bleep ton of money to make a 2k game. It cost 1.1 billion just to have the ability to make the game. Games like Halo or Mario or Uncharted or Cod or hell even Ga don’t have that added costs on their game. Then u factor in the cost of MJ exclusivity, multiple announcer teams, Shaq and the studio, story mode with well known actors, deals for legends, tons of licensed music, & licensed clothing & shoes. Not even mentioning marketing and paying devs to make the game year round. 2k is down hundreds of millions before the game is shipped. So a freaking ad don’t bother me when I’m getting all that when other sports games not even doing half of that

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                        • Dione2014
                          Pro
                          • Dec 2014
                          • 720

                          #72
                          Re: 2K Issues Statement For Ads Appearing in NBA 2K21

                          We have to rise against this sort of stuff early. Even if it's not a big deal right now, how the consumer reacts to slight changes could change what we see 5 years from now. I know because this is exactly what happened with VC. Introduced I. 2013 it wasn't a big deal and nobody spoke up, but look at where we are now. Entire game pretty much run through VC.

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                          • H2UKNOW
                            Rookie
                            • Jun 2020
                            • 307

                            #73
                            Re: NBA 2K21 Quietly Adds Unskippable Ads

                            Originally posted by ksuttonjr76
                            Meh...advertisements are everywhere.

                            That doesn’t make it okay though. I didn’t buy the game to be sold a new product. Especially when the product I paid full price for is a bit lackluster.

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                            • ILLSmak
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 2397

                              #74
                              Re: NBA 2K21 Quietly Adds Unskippable Ads

                              Originally posted by H2UKNOW
                              That doesn’t make it okay though. I didn’t buy the game to be sold a new product. Especially when the product I paid full price for is a bit lackluster.

                              It's basketball. Hooray, basketball!


                              -Smak

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                              • Chicom23
                                Just started!
                                • Nov 2013
                                • 1

                                #75
                                Re: 2K Issues Statement For Ads Appearing in NBA 2K21

                                Thinking the “Mobile-fication” of this is where the dissatisfaction lies. Many free games have the expectation that an ad might be shown or you can buy it at a small cost to remove ads.

                                Paying whatever you pay for a Premium title, makes people feel that they’re entitled to that experience and getting advertised to cheapens that. It reminds you of a cheap mobile game.

                                There’s always shareholders that want increasing profits, but damaging your brand and rep for it is pretty shortsighted. If the consumers don’t express there outrage, year on year it will get more intrusive, for sure.

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