NBA 2K21 Next-Gen Gameplay Blog (Part 3 of 3) - MyPLAYER, Builds, Badges, Takeover, Next-Gen AI Offense & Defense

[illwill10]

Re: NBA 2K21 Next-Gen Gameplay Blog (Part 3 of 3) - MyPLAYER, Builds, Badges, Takeove

Well I posted a theoretical Center with 1000 points. I didn’t find it to be as overpowered as the guard builds because you can’t really ignore as many stats and you’ll likely have some lower ceilings due to height. I think it’s easily possible to be a great finisher and have a decent jumpshot. If you wanted to add post moves into the mix, you’d definitely have to sacrifice on either defense or driving though.


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You would either do a specialist build or rely heavily on badges for bigs.The only thing with specialist builds, is they would pretty much be the same pie chart builds. Like for center, I would go 6'10 and focus on physical, Defense, and Finishing. But is that any different than what was possible.
Then other side is making sacrifices with ratings and relying on badges. Like If I want to make that more Athletic Draymond Build. I would have to make heavy sacrifices, but at same time not many I could ignore. Where I can't have a rating higher than 85. That would be a build that wouldn't be as enjoyable until I max out builds

[Goffs]

Re: NBA 2K21 Next-Gen Gameplay Blog (Part 3 of 3) - MyPLAYER, Builds, Badges, Takeove

I betcha the pie charts are still there but hidden. Should be interesting once the game is released.

[illwill10]

Re: NBA 2K21 Next-Gen Gameplay Blog (Part 3 of 3) - MyPLAYER, Builds, Badges, Takeove

I betcha the pie charts are still there but hidden. Should be interesting once the game is released.

I wonder If there would be a MyPlayer Builder demos for next gen. It is a tricky situation since game will be out day 1. I do hope there is still a Demo for those who aren't buying day 1.

I also wonder if any of the influencers who will receive a console early will post videos prior to launch. Guys like Chris Smoove typically post MyCareer videos within a week of release. But I wonder if they would get a console early and post videos

[MoneyOvaHuds]

Re: NBA 2K21 Next-Gen Gameplay Blog (Part 3 of 3) - MyPLAYER, Builds, Badges, Takeove

Doubt a demo the game comes out the system release

[allBthere]

Re: NBA 2K21 Next-Gen Gameplay Blog (Part 3 of 3) - MyPLAYER, Builds, Badges, Takeove

I betcha the pie charts are still there but hidden. Should be interesting once the game is released.

well in a way they are based on the limitations. The example they gave was a 6'5" guard with a 6'10"wingspan... that's a generous wingspan imo. This player had an absolute max block rating of 65 I found out after pausing it. To me that's crazy and makes it homogenous as I said before.

I decided to look up the best short blockers of the past little while. Dwayne Wade averaged over 1bpg 6 times in his career at 6'4" and I believe twice in the playoffs over 1.6 bpg.

So he would have a cap of 65 or maybe even 60 in 2k21 because he's shorter than the build and no doubt has less wingspan too!

I wanted to create a 6'5" guy with like an 80-85 block rating and focus on that AT THE EXPENSE of almost anything.

So I don't see how capping certain things SO LOW will do anything other than PROMOTE homogenous OP guards!

The other big one for me is rebound dunking - I doubt they will let someone under 6'7" do it even though many can IRL, so that may force me to create a SF/PF much taller than I want to.

Charles Barkley might be another impossible build just because of the arbitrary caps ... why not let us decide? what's the point... I don't think letting small guys have high big-man-typical stats would do anything other than create more variety, not to mention those things will STILL be harder to do if you're shorter because it just takes longer to get up in the air, also harder to move big players around etc.

It just seems so arbitrary and not well thought out limiting those things... Dennis Rodman is another one, totally impossible in this game imo. I'd rather they limit 90's ratings based on other 90s ratings, like if you're 99 3pt, maybe you can't be a 90 driving dunk too? But don't stop me from creating the best blocking, offensive rebounding guard the league has ever seen! haha, why not?

[Thrustie]

Re: NBA 2K21 Next-Gen Gameplay Blog (Part 3 of 3) - MyPLAYER, Builds, Badges, Takeove

You would either do a specialist build or rely heavily on badges for bigs.The only thing with specialist builds, is they would pretty much be the same pie chart builds. Like for center, I would go 6'10 and focus on physical, Defense, and Finishing. But is that any different than what was possible.

Then other side is making sacrifices with ratings and relying on badges. Like If I want to make that more Athletic Draymond Build. I would have to make heavy sacrifices, but at same time not many I could ignore. Where I can't have a rating higher than 85. That would be a build that wouldn't be as enjoyable until I max out builds

Yeah the first build you have is basically the same as mine in current gen. I love it but I feel like it’s going to be hard to ignore shooting if they give you that many points to allocate. To me, it’s a choice between driving or post moves. Like being a shorter Center with driving, shooting, defense and good physicals or being a bigger Center with finishing, post moves, defense and some shooting.


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[Charles Bliss]

Re: NBA 2K21 Next-Gen Gameplay Blog (Part 3 of 3) - MyPLAYER, Builds, Badges, Takeove

I agree, now it seems possible to finally make a David Robinson build. I'm looking forward to the possibility of making builds in the like of Charles Barkley, KG, C-Webb, and Sheed.

Personally I like this approach of
making EVERYONE a demigod. I've always wanted a 7'1 pure rim protector that can keep up with agile players and have a nice mid range. I've been wanting to make one for years. Next gen is looking nice if its finally possible.



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[awg811]

Re: NBA 2K21 Next-Gen Gameplay Blog (Part 3 of 3) - MyPLAYER, Builds, Badges, Takeove

We aren't getting 1000 points. On top of that you didn't take in consideration of height, weight, and wing span.

Ultimately what 2k needs to do is

-Stop allowing low defense guards to hide.
-Destroy 5 Out gameplay

I imagine if they remove brick wall, they could fix our problems. I'm a big, but I'm hands down for removing brick wall and exposing guards.

If 2k can do those things 2k21 will be mounds better than 2k17-2k20





They need to remove brick wall or buff the hell out of pick dodger. According to the community Pick dodger hardly works.

Based on the video that 2k provided we ARE getting around a 1,000 points.
All you have to do is count the point distribution in the video. It comes out to 1,544 minus the 550 that you get automatically since everything starts at 25.
The total of 1,544 - 550 is 994 and the player in the video is still a 94 overall which would lead one to believe that he has a few more points to speed, ie 1,000 points.



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[Hustle Westbrook]

Re: NBA 2K21 Next-Gen Gameplay Blog (Part 3 of 3) - MyPLAYER, Builds, Badges, Takeove

So since they didn’t mention it, I’m guessing loose balls are going to be going back to offensive players 9 times out 10 again? Nice.

[franzis]

Re: NBA 2K21 Next-Gen Gameplay Blog (Part 3 of 3) - MyPLAYER, Builds, Badges, Takeove

I saw something like 6 badges just boosting all kinds of 3pt shooting, plus 2 takeovers... that doesn't bode well

[jfsolo]

Re: NBA 2K21 Next-Gen Gameplay Blog (Part 3 of 3) - MyPLAYER, Builds, Badges, Takeove

So since they didn’t mention it, I’m guessing loose balls are going to be going back to offensive players 9 times out 10 again? Nice.

They didn't mention that specifically, but improvements in everything that they talked about in the second blog, Defense and Off-ball movement, Foot Planting, Body Ups, Off-Ball Contact, and especially the Impact Engine, should contribute to the loose balls not being magnetized to the offensive player. If non of those things are able to change the one sided outcomes of those plays then that is very unfortunate.

[Allball76]

Re: NBA 2K21 Next-Gen Gameplay Blog (Part 3 of 3) - MyPLAYER, Builds, Badges, Takeove

here's all time Rodman if the system caps is right heres 95 overall that should be

Dennis Rodman 95 overall

75 Outside Scoring
86 Close Shot
65 Mid-Range Shot
62 Three-Point Shot
65 Free Throw
97 Shot IQ
75 Offensive Consistency
87 Athleticism
78 Speed
69 Acceleration
86 Strength
88 Vertical
98 Stamina
99 Hustle
88 Overall Durability
72 Inside Scoring
55 Layup
95 Standing Dunk
70 Driving Dunk
75 Post Hook
48 Post Fade
62 Post Control
74 Draw Foul
98 Hands
49 Playmaking
54 Pass Accuracy
45 Ball Handle
50 Speed with Ball
55 Pass IQ
40 Pass Vision
79 Defending
98 Interior Defense
66 Perimeter Defense
57 Steal
50 Block
66 Lateral Quickness
98 Help Defense IQ
95 Pass Perception
98 Defensive Consistency
99 Rebounding
99 Offensive Rebound
98 Defensive Rebound


And just for idea if you wanna make a kobe here a 95 overall version of him that should almost work

91 Outside Scoring
92 Close Shot
94 Mid-Range Shot
79 Three-Point Shot
85 Free Throw
97 Shot IQ
98 Offensive Consistency
86 Athleticism
88 Speed
87 Acceleration
70 Strength
88 Vertical
98 Stamina
85 Hustle
83 Overall Durability
76 Inside Scoring
98 Layup
35 Standing Dunk
85 Driving Dunk
57 Post Hook
74 Post Fade
68 Post Control
92 Draw Foul
97 Hands
84 Playmaking
85 Pass Accuracy
89 Ball Handle
86 Speed with Ball
85 Pass IQ
75 Pass Vision
76 Defending
62 Interior Defense
78 Perimeter Defense
67 Steal
51 Block
78 Lateral Quickness
90 Help Defense IQ
92 Pass Perception
90 Defensive Consistency
50 Rebounding
46 Offensive Rebound
54 Defensive Rebound

people that think 95 dunk 95 layup 95 3 ball 90 handles 95 speed its not gonna work you will be way over 99 overall

well in a way they are based on the limitations. The example they gave was a 6'5" guard with a 6'10"wingspan... that's a generous wingspan imo. This player had an absolute max block rating of 65 I found out after pausing it. To me that's crazy and makes it homogenous as I said before.

I decided to look up the best short blockers of the past little while. Dwayne Wade averaged over 1bpg 6 times in his career at 6'4" and I believe twice in the playoffs over 1.6 bpg.

So he would have a cap of 65 or maybe even 60 in 2k21 because he's shorter than the build and no doubt has less wingspan too!

I wanted to create a 6'5" guy with like an 80-85 block rating and focus on that AT THE EXPENSE of almost anything.

So I don't see how capping certain things SO LOW will do anything other than PROMOTE homogenous OP guards!

The other big one for me is rebound dunking - I doubt they will let someone under 6'7" do it even though many can IRL, so that may force me to create a SF/PF much taller than I want to.

Charles Barkley might be another impossible build just because of the arbitrary caps ... why not let us decide? what's the point... I don't think letting small guys have high big-man-typical stats would do anything other than create more variety, not to mention those things will STILL be harder to do if you're shorter because it just takes longer to get up in the air, also harder to move big players around etc.

It just seems so arbitrary and not well thought out limiting those things... Dennis Rodman is another one, totally impossible in this game imo. I'd rather they limit 90's ratings based on other 90s ratings, like if you're 99 3pt, maybe you can't be a 90 driving dunk too? But don't stop me from creating the best blocking, offensive rebounding guard the league has ever seen! haha, why not?

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: NBA 2K21 Next-Gen Gameplay Blog (Part 3 of 3) - MyPLAYER, Builds, Badges, Takeove

people that think 95 dunk 95 layup 95 3 ball 90 handles 95 speed its not gonna work you will be way over 99 overall

What does this sentence even mean?

[Thrustie]

Re: NBA 2K21 Next-Gen Gameplay Blog (Part 3 of 3) - MyPLAYER, Builds, Badges, Takeove

Just thought I’d add a little more fuel to this.


Here’s a screen shot of the builder when you’re picking vitals. So this guy is a bit taller than the 6’5 guy. His weight and wingspan are almost the same as current gen standard 6’8 guy so I’m not sure what’s causing the green and red numbers on his stats. Still gives you a decent idea on where you could dump your stats.


This was an early leaked screenshot of the builder before the announcement. Looks like a small Center or a big PF. Only about 936 stats allocated if I estimated right. So less than the guard in the video. Gives you a rough idea on what the caps on a guy of this size might be though. Averageish weight but fairly long wingspan for that height. Don’t know how accurate this pic is but for a “leak” it looks pretty identical to the one they release in the announcement.


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[Thrustie]

Re: NBA 2K21 Next-Gen Gameplay Blog (Part 3 of 3) - MyPLAYER, Builds, Badges, Takeove

Wonder if his body type could be causing the green/red modifiers?


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