Shakedown2012 first Impressions of 2k23 Video

[leoribas3]

Re: Shakedown2012 first Impressions of 2k23 Video

This^^^^^^^

They say 2k11 is the best because of Jordan is only half the truth the other truth is Dynamic gameplay was real and the shooting separation was Dynamic and made sense

I use to light dudes up with Carmelo tripe threat shot Creation and the shooting motion was near perfect not too fast not too slow
Shot meter didn't exist then but wasn't necessary either

Dude!!! Thats exactly what I used to do and it was the most fun ive ever had in basketball games. It really felt realistic. You could create real separation with the dribbling, stepbacks (there was a designated button for it and I LOVED IT). And the contest system wasnt as atrocious as today.

[simbayless]

Re: Shakedown2012 first Impressions of 2k23 Video

Everything we both said is basically showed in these short clips

https://youtu.be/CkBlXWXA5R8

https://youtu.be/Gg5fnbRx4LE

https://youtu.be/o03qJIup_xg

https://youtu.be/s2NaiOurIIc

https://youtu.be/8bvoH0VaQhA

https://youtu.be/47QQLErV6YI

https://youtu.be/g_Wh2NpklcA

https://youtu.be/6XIhMGfOeOY

https://youtu.be/9lmeMuIP9-Y


https://youtu.be/do1DJC4Gh7M

https://youtu.be/V3urvxfrT88

The CPU actually gave you some
breathing room to perform moves Spins,layups, pump fakes step backs actually mattered,ect.. and was lethal in 2k11

Next gen is CPU peanut butter Defense too sticky on you like its winter cuddling season to pull off these moves
And i hope 2k fix the shot Contest system

This D-Rose video alone should tell you 2k11 was the best straight fire

[loso_34]

Re: Shakedown2012 first Impressions of 2k23 Video

I just hope they split gameplay into “Competitive” and “Simulation” so they can patch and tune the two separately. MyPlayer/Park modes would be on “Competitive” while other modes can choose between the two. Patches to Park modes would only tweak the “Competitive” mode and patches to offline gameplay would only affect the “Simulation” mode.

This way everyone can complain about the issues to their specific mode of gameplay without affecting those playing the other version. Win-win.

At the very least this needs to be done for shooting. The shooting on this game doesn't replicate what you see in the NBA and we know they have the data. I'm tired of hearing about skills gap when it comes to shooting cause the same guys win every year and shoot well every year despite what game we get.

[loso_34]

Re: Shakedown2012 first Impressions of 2k23 Video

I wonder why we haven't got a poll for that dunk meter haha i'm sure this community would vote that out as well. Bring back shot aiming already it was one of the best features in a long while. It got a bad wrap due to zens but those been around long before aiming.

[AIRJ23]

Re: Shakedown2012 first Impressions of 2k23 Video

Everything we both said is basically showed in these short clips

https://youtu.be/CkBlXWXA5R8

https://youtu.be/Gg5fnbRx4LE

https://youtu.be/o03qJIup_xg

https://youtu.be/s2NaiOurIIc

https://youtu.be/8bvoH0VaQhA

https://youtu.be/47QQLErV6YI

https://youtu.be/g_Wh2NpklcA

https://youtu.be/6XIhMGfOeOY

https://youtu.be/9lmeMuIP9-Y


https://youtu.be/do1DJC4Gh7M

https://youtu.be/V3urvxfrT88

The CPU actually gave you some
breathing room to perform moves Spins,layups, pump fakes step backs actually mattered,ect.. and was lethal in 2k11

Next gen is CPU peanut butter Defense too sticky on you like its winter cuddling season to pull off these moves
And i hope 2k fix the shot Contest system

This D-Rose video alone should tell you 2k11 was the best straight fire

Man. Kobe looks nothing like himself in the face there but otherwise that looks so much more like him on the court than 2K22 to me. Even with Kobe having all his sigs now. I dunno what it is. Maybe the baggier shorts help, but I definitely feel like Kobe in 2K22 shoots more like Kobe. Contested movement shots and releases can be too slow to animate and he kicks his legs out in dramatic fashion in 2K11 like real Kobe does. They don’t have that at all in the new 2K’s.

[Champy123]

Re: Shakedown2012 first Impressions of 2k23 Video

I just hope they split gameplay into “Competitive” and “Simulation” so they can patch and tune the two separately. MyPlayer/Park modes would be on “Competitive” while other modes can choose between the two. Patches to Park modes would only tweak the “Competitive” mode and patches to offline gameplay would only affect the “Simulation” mode.

This way everyone can complain about the issues to their specific mode of gameplay without affecting those playing the other version. Win-win.

A win win situation indeed but something 2K would absolutely NEVER do.

[EccentricMeat]

Re: Shakedown2012 first Impressions of 2k23 Video

A win win situation indeed but something 2K would absolutely NEVER do.

I don't think it is something they're ideologically opposed to. Only thing I can think of is that they either don't know how to do it OR their engine for whatever reason literally won't allow them to have two "instances" or versions of gameplay that can be tweaked separately from one another.

[Junior Moe]

Re: Shakedown2012 first Impressions of 2k23 Video

I don't think it is something they're ideologically opposed to. Only thing I can think of is that they either don't know how to do it OR their engine for whatever reason literally won't allow them to have two "instances" or versions of gameplay that can be tweaked separately from one another.

I think the best we can hope for is just more options. Czar did a video after the cutter help was turned off. He showed why the way it was implemented could be an issue for people who want to control every facet of their defense. He also showed the gaping hole it left. Czar also said they're hoping to just have it as an option next year so that those of us who play CPU and liked that aspect could have it on while the online guys could have the total control they desire.

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[hesko]

Re: Shakedown2012 first Impressions of 2k23 Video

I don't think it is something they're ideologically opposed to. Only thing I can think of is that they either don't know how to do it OR their engine for whatever reason literally won't allow them to have two "instances" or versions of gameplay that can be tweaked separately from one another.

maybe in 2k28?

[hesko]

Re: Shakedown2012 first Impressions of 2k23 Video

I'd like to see an improved transition game.

[jfsolo]

Re: Shakedown2012 first Impressions of 2k23 Video

We re-factored the way sliders work this year and it didn't make sense to keep the game style and difficulty settings different. The thinking was, if you're playing Rookie, you're probably a casual gamer and if you're jumping up to HoF, you're probably looking for more of a sim experience. At least, that's how I wanted to design the difficulties.

If you guys can agree to a good slider set for Superstar and HoF, I'd be happy to adjust the defaults. I can change them in an update next week.

Just let me know exactly what you want in this thread.

This was a quote from Mike from when they got rid of the pre-set Arcade, Default, and Simulation settings for NBA 2K17. A lot of people were cool with it, I personally wasn't and IMO it hasn't been the same in terms of easily finding a good set of simulation sliders to play on.

Other factors in the game contribute to this issue of course, but I will always consider this a negative design decision by the dev team.

[EccentricMeat]

Re: Shakedown2012 first Impressions of 2k23 Video

This was a quote from Mike from when they got rid of the pre-set Arcade, Default, and Simulation settings for NBA 2K17. A lot of people were cool with it, I personally wasn't and IMO it hasn't been the same in terms of easily finding a good set of simulation sliders to play on.

Other factors in the game contribute to this issue of course, but I will always consider this a negative design decision by the dev team.

These presets were a little different than what I'm referring to as they were really just a base to adjust your sliders from, and didn't actually give 2K the ability to make fundamental changes to the gameplay via patches that could specifically target JUST the online or JUST the offline version of gameplay. I agree they should revert the difficulty/slider system back to the old way so that changing sliders doesn't override the difficulty setting to "Custom" (we still don't really know how that even works and if "Custom" from a HOF base plays differently than "Custom" from a Rookie base, or any other difficulty in between). Just give us the difficulty settings with their innate gameplay changes, and allow us to tweak from there.

Then on top of that, split the online PvP gameplay off from the online user vs. CPU gameplay so they can cater to the online gamers like they love to do without ruining the offline experience like they have the last few years.

[simbayless]

Re: Shakedown2012 first Impressions of 2k23 Video

These presets were a little different than what I'm referring to as they were really just a base to adjust your sliders from, and didn't actually give 2K the ability to make fundamental changes to the gameplay via patches that could specifically target JUST the online or JUST the offline version of gameplay. I agree they should revert the difficulty/slider system back to the old way so that changing sliders doesn't override the difficulty setting to "Custom" (we still don't really know how that even works and if "Custom" from a HOF base plays differently than "Custom" from a Rookie base, or any other difficulty in between). Just give us the difficulty settings with their innate gameplay changes, and allow us to tweak from there.

Then on top of that, split the online PvP gameplay off from the online user vs. CPU gameplay so they can cater to the online gamers like they love to do without ruining the offline experience like they have the last few years.

I think this why nba 2k on Next Gen CPU became so easy to beat a long with wacky Tendencies CPU crash dummies going to the hole most of the time while being Guarded good

I miss 2k16 when CPU would kill you offensively if your not focused Defensively and superstars like Harden and Durant
Would light you up🔥🔥🔥
Now Next Gen superstars have very low IQ

I hope they clean the AI this time in 2k23

[TheDon7727]

Re: Shakedown2012 first Impressions of 2k23 Video

Just an question from a longtime 2k gamer, like most of you... I think his overall message was a good one. I'm excited for the update.

However, I have to ask, have any of you seen the Youtube videos featuring 2k23 concept gameplay? I know these are done on PC with mods, but jeeez. I compared my 2k22 next gen PS5 to some of these videos and thought to myself that the PC mod videos are how "next gen" is supposed to look.

Sure, not everything was great, but the players looked taller and don't have the slight hunch when they stand up similar to NBA Live models. The arena lighting looks better, the arena sounds are more realistic, the courts look and crowds look better, and I couldn't get over how good the actual TNT, CBS, etc. overlays with the commentary were.

I don't have a good PC to play the game on PC which is why I have a Ps5, but it makes me wish I did just so I could hook my game up with mods and a good slider/roster set.

Lastly, yes, I'm aware there is a forum for the PC version. I just was so impressed, I wanted to see anyone else had similar thoughts...

Thanks!

[Jrocc23]

Re: Shakedown2012 first Impressions of 2k23 Video

I think this why nba 2k on Next Gen CPU became so easy to beat a long with wacky Tendencies CPU crash dummies going to the hole most of the time while being Guarded good

I miss 2k16 when CPU would kill you offensively if your not focused Defensively and superstars like Harden and Durant
Would light you up[emoji91][emoji91][emoji91]
Now Next Gen superstars have very low IQ

I hope they clean the AI this time in 2k23

I agree. I miss having battles with the CPU and knowing I have to really be on my toes against a player like Kyrie, KD etc. The CPU hasn’t been that lethal for me since 2K19. They was tough. I think part of the reason they suck so bad is 2K allowing you to see the CPU shot timing. I’ll rather it go back to the way it was even if the cpu was cheating somewhat lol.


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