Play Now Online: NBA 2K23

[Kushmir]

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The Nets user is doing nothing to punish that. Put Giannis in an off-ball action. Make him actually guard something instead of letting him just stand there.

Errr...we watching the same game? he LITERALLY put Giannis is PNR every possession after the 1st one until Jrue steals the pass. He's obviously out of sync and adjusting to the new game (has happened to us all) he did exactly what you think she should have. His issue is Jrue is elite/recovers quickly and he isn't content to take the quick 3 off the screen or the midrange J thats open.

And as far as I'm aware, every block/steal attempt is supposed to drain an adrenaline boost in order to stop people from spamming it. This guy was standing there with his hands up and timing his steal/block attempts pretty well from what I could tell. This just looks like a case of the Nets user getting outplayed to me.

Umm...do you see stamina drain stopping spam? Where? Please point that out to me so I can see it. [emoji23]

[Kushmir]

Re: Play Now Online: NBA 2K23

Understand the philosophy, because that was my same thought when I heard about shooting, and saw some videos, but it was only a day before I turned my meter off and started knocking shots down. You’ll probably just have to get your hands on it to really understand.

The issues are inside the arc, lol

Respect you, Rob and Van probly the most here...and I love the idea of playing w/o a meter...but in the era of online gaming with lag the meter can show me if i'm missing late or early. No meter really limits my feedback.

[Kushmir]

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If you scroll up a bit you can see my record for 2K22. That’s all onball. I don’t play offball and ball watch the cpu play defense for me. I’ll take my delusion anyday of the week.


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Record? Really? [emoji23] come now....I got love for the fact that you play with DET but that isn't the flex you think it is. Most of us get challenged in like, what? 10% of our games? Get guys like Minsta, Fatleg and 24th on your friends list and you'll see what I mean...90% is the floor.

I get that we all have different styles and stuff we don't like but IMO online is about being open to/adapting to what the opponent can do....and especially the elite guy. These are the only games that really count because again, 90% of our opponents are FISh who are down 10 or quit in the first 5 minutes. Losing to these guys because we have a rule in our head that says "I cant do _____ because so-called skilled players say its bad" seems excessive.

[bls]

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Record? Really? [emoji23] come now....I got love for the fact that you play with DET but that isn't the flex you think it is. Most of us get challenged in like, what? 10% of our games? Get guys like Minsta, Fatleg and 24th on your friends list and you'll see what I mean...90% is the floor.

I get that we all have different styles and stuff we don't like but IMO online is about being open to/adapting to what the opponent can do....and especially the elite guy. These are the only games that really count because again, 90% of our opponents are FISh who are down 10 or quit in the first 5 minutes. Losing to these guys because we have a rule in our head that says "I cant do _____ because so-called skilled players say its bad" seems excessive.

That completely went over your head. My point is, I only play onball defense, I don’t care who it is or what they’re doing. If you have the ball I’m playing defense on you not the CPU. If I wanna play against the CPU I’ll play offline. No matter if my record is 2-1220 or 1220-2 I’ll play that way.

You speak of floppy’s and stuff like that getting open. What I speak of is dude hiding behind the CPU with the center like buddy in the Nets/Bucks vid you posted. Nets user was doing nothing astronomical that would cause the Bucks user to play offball like that 100% of the time. Your literally allowing the CPU to play D for you while you ball watch. What fun is that? If that’s the cause let me logged offline and play a quick play now game against the CPU.

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IMO this is much better than allowing the CPU to play onball for you. I accomplished that turnover and not the CPU. Plenty of times I get beat by users while playing onball. The fun is trying to adjust and make it difficult for them. Again i ask, what fun is it ball watching the CPU play onball D for you?


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[Kushmir]

Re: Play Now Online: NBA 2K23

Are you feeling me, that , the fact that there isn't a normal setting for shot releases, Green or no isn't sim & mike based the game on the shot meter, which i only use with the stick, Setting favorite plays & then the quick plays only show up & on the sub menu in game & time outs, ppl are missing & on xbox when you try to sub out the center & move your cursor over to sub him out the a button sometimes disappear. Tell me Kush how do you play on ball & what is your def assist setting at?

Still on the fence Sam, I wont buy current gen (see video) so it depends on the PS5 gameplay. but Yeah 24th said the best shooting setting are meter off/early.

Gotta be honest I never touch def assist settings. I usually shadow the best shooter with my worst defender so I can make sure he isn't a fish and decide whether to crash down and leave him or not.

I play help no rotation so the help generally comes from me.

[Kushmir]

Re: Play Now Online: NBA 2K23

Maybe I'm just blind but I don't see the Bucks user running a zone defense or the Nets user missing multiple open shots. In fact, it was the Nets user who tried running a 2-3 zone for one possession, and the Bucks user missing a couple of open shots.

My mistake I watched his whole stream so i'm blending some of his videos by accident. He saw zones in a few other games. This one is Giannis helping everywhere with Jrue in tight D on the ball-handler (usually Kyrie) he misses open shots but more than that its alot of bunny-hopping on D with no downside.

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: Play Now Online: NBA 2K23

The developers are very ignorant of the franchise's ongoing latency issues.

Its the reason why i used RFG% in 2k22..
shot timing online is not skill based, its network based. Often times what you're seeing on screen is delayed.

Practice offline to develop some muscle memory. That's what I have done in years past.

[bls]

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Full court passes are back stronger than ever, CPU defenders are clueless against them. And the spin move is the meta now with less body up contacts.

[Kushmir]

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That completely went over your head. My point is, I only play onball defense, I don’t care who it is or what they’re doing. If you have the ball I’m playing defense on you not the CPU.

Nope. I understood you just fine. I'm just saying thats a really weird hill to die on. Most elite players run plays that will toy with AI defenders. Being committed to on-ball "no matter what" even if your AI defenders can't figure it out seems......you know. ODD.

You speak of floppy’s and stuff like that getting open.

And they will. TRUST. But it sounds like you'll sleep just fine knowing you played by the on-ball rules lol.

Nets user was doing nothing astronomical that would cause the Bucks user to play offball like that 100% of the time. Your literally allowing the CPU to play D for you while you ball watch.

Thats just it. There doesn't have to be a CAUSE lol. He has probably the best help defender in the NBA, an elite PG defender in Jrue and will play Giannis at center since most centers don't shoot with high volume. That's the problem he's presenting his opponent with....its up to you to solve it.

I guess i'm into that kind of thing, but I get that its not a challenge for everyone....esp if you only have rim-runners on the roster. IMO you bring in Morris and alternate between pick and pop and kyrie pulling up quick off the screen.

It sounds like you'd be content to play on-ball vs Giannis and watch Jrue come off flares wide open or the other help guy leaving Ingles (a 40% guy from deep)....not really my thing but we're all different.

P.S. Really didn't like the fact that the Bucks user could drive Giannis into the paint and predictably pump fake with zero downside--be nice to see some contain animations in those instances when people don't fall for it and go hands up.

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[bls]

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Nope. I understood you just fine. I'm just saying thats a really weird hill to die on. Most elite players run plays that will toy with AI defenders. Being committed to on-ball "no matter what" even if your AI defenders can't figure it out seems......you know. ODD.



And they will. TRUST. But it sounds like you'll sleep just fine knowing you played by the on-ball rules lol.



Thats just it. There doesn't have to be a CAUSE lol. He has probably the best help defender in the NBA, an elite PG defender in Jrue and will play Giannis at center since most centers don't shoot with high volume. That's the problem he's presenting his opponent with....its up to you to solve it.

I guess i'm into that kind of thing but I get that its not a challenge for everyone....esp if you only have rim-runners on the roster. IMO you bring in Morris and alternate between pick and pop and kyrie pulling up quick off the screen.

It sounds like you'd be content to play on-ball vs Giannis and watch Jrue come off flares wide open or the other help guy leaving Ingles (a 40% guy from deep)....not really my thing but we're all different.

P.S. Really didn't like the fact that the Bucks user could drive Giannis into the paint and predictably pump fake with zero downside--be nice to see some contain animations in those instances when people don't fall for it and go hands up.

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So you think out of ALL those games I played I didn’t come across anyone that ran floppy/flares? [emoji23] Okay [emoji1476]

Its called adjustments my friend. The TRUTH is……MOST users don’t play onball defense because……………….they CAN’T. If you feel offball ball watching while the CPU plays onball defense for you is skill, more power to you. It’s trash to me. Just MO


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[jeebs9]

Re: Play Now Online: NBA 2K23

Wait you can't dashboard at the teams option screen ... That's BS!!! I just received a lose trying to because he was a mirror match (sixers)

[Kushmir]

Re: Play Now Online: NBA 2K23

So you think out of ALL those games I played I didn’t come across anyone that ran floppy/flares? [emoji23] Okay [emoji1476]

Oh i'm sure you've seen them. But again, 10% of the people we play present challenges. If we're any good depends on how we play against them...not the FISH, yknow?

Its called adjustments my friend. The TRUTH is……MOST users don’t play onball defense because……………….they CAN’T.

That might be true in some instances...but its DEFINITELY not a hard and fast rule.

What i've found is that people often COMPLAIN about it because their offense depends on the other user being BAD. I don't care where the other user plays. I dont hunt bad users on offense--I just run good plays and score pretty consistently.

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: Play Now Online: NBA 2K23

Hate when my shot selection be on point, but my shooting is straight garbage.

[bls]

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Oh i'm sure you've seen them. But again, 10% of the people we play present challenges. If we're any good depends on how we play against them...not the FISH, yknow?



That might be true in some instances...but its DEFINITELY not a hard and fast rule.

What i've found is that people often COMPLAIN about it because their offense depends on the other user being BAD. I don't care where the other user plays. I dont hunt bad users on offense--I just run good plays and score pretty consistently.

No complaints here, just boring going up against the CPU. I’m not an offline gamer. So going up against the CPU in a “online” is no fun for me. It’s not that it’s not beatable, it’s just not fun.

I struggle the most against onball defenders. Most of my losses are from onball defenders. When I know the CPU is defending me I tend to do the same thing over and over again with a high success rate. Gets boring. Like I said before to each his own. I just don’t see the skill in ball watching the CPU try to mirror the offensive players movements.


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[The 24th Letter]

Re: Play Now Online: NBA 2K23

Just another reminder-

Until the roster update, ticking up help defense in your Coach Sliders is a must, especially if you’re struggling with on ball defense.