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  • scottyp180
    MVP
    • Jun 2007
    • 2204

    #181
    Re: NBA 2K24 Gameplay Enhancements Revealed with Trailer

    Originally posted by EccentricMeat
    I REALLY hope this is just sarcasm and I’m not picking up on it. Because if help defense is worse, the game is DOA from a sim sense.
    Yeah my stomach dropped seeing that reply.

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    • Da_Czar
      NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
      • Jul 2002
      • 5408

      #182
      Re: NBA 2K24 Gameplay Enhancements Revealed with Trailer

      Originally posted by Baebae32
      Thanks for dropping in Big Czar. Can you let us know if Team Takeover is back in the NBA side of the game? If so, can we disable the takeover icons?
      I believe it is. Mike was tweeting about it. There have been some changes to it. Yes you can disable the icons in the settings menu.
      Catch me on that #SimNation #SimHangOut Friday's @ 10:00 pm est https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...N7yxMiElOpMl_B

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      • Da_Czar
        NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
        • Jul 2002
        • 5408

        #183
        Re: NBA 2K24 Gameplay Enhancements Revealed with Trailer

        [QUOTE=b1g;2050808999]Love when Czar drops in, hate when he leaves. If you don't mind me asking what tool do I need to use to make contested shots? I've tried everything but I haven't seen an and 1 three in 2k23 all year. Please help, for the life of me, this is so unrealistic/frustrating.[/QUOTE
        For 2k24 shot coverage impact should get it done. We used to allow you to change the effectiveness of the initial and release shot contests and that is what I would play with in prior versions.
        Catch me on that #SimNation #SimHangOut Friday's @ 10:00 pm est https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...N7yxMiElOpMl_B

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        • Da_Czar
          NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
          • Jul 2002
          • 5408

          #184
          Re: NBA 2K24 Gameplay Enhancements Revealed with Trailer

          Originally posted by ggsimmonds
          Yall give us the tools needed to play a realistic game of basketball. What the users do with it when its in their hands is up to them. Is online play realistic? Hell no lol, but thats because the online community is playing videogames not basketball.

          I'm guessing we are still a ways off from having more dynamic and real AI coaching decisions though, like cross matching? That and an expansion to coaches are my top wishes (and the two are extensions of each other imo)
          Yeah as I get more experience I also get more responsibilities which increases my impact across the game but I'm not able to dedicate a full year to just offensive AI like I was a few years back. Also trying to wrangle that defense into something reliable over the last few years. I have so many designs but my engineers and I only have so much time and the game gets bigger and bigger.

          Do you have any idea how much time it takes to build out those ERA's? that was madness in a single year fam absolute MADNESS. So now you have to account for all that extra maintenance work in the same 7-8 months of work.
          Catch me on that #SimNation #SimHangOut Friday's @ 10:00 pm est https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...N7yxMiElOpMl_B

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          • Da_Czar
            NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
            • Jul 2002
            • 5408

            #185
            Re: NBA 2K24 Gameplay Enhancements Revealed with Trailer

            Originally posted by VictorMG
            No way any dev, especially a Day 1 member of Sim Nation like Da Czar, would just say that without any further elaboration, lol. That remark from him actually gives me faith that it HAS been improved.
            of course it's better. It's been improving every year since 2k21. I know yall remember the hedge man RUNNING away from the ball. Last year was solid except too late to fix, I found out that the pre-rotate in the hedge help was not working correctly but it was already in the data and I couldn't take it out.
            So if you triggered a certain threat level pre-rotate on hedge would turn on and the timing mechanism was screwed so he would rotate immediately before the ball-handler took the screen and it looked like he was just running away from his dude.

            I will refine and work on defense every year even if you don't hear about it in the blog. It is super solid right now but i would wait till yall get it to really see because the average users probably won't do all the fancy stuff you guys will get into.

            this year I did add two options. You can choose to not leave any players for drive help. I also added a BIG help option in the team adjustments that we activated will only bring drive help from your center to help deter shots and force the opposing big to knock down perimeter shots.

            So far I have only been able to fix what was already there. The exciting stuff will happen when I can start to bring my own new ideas to defense.
            Last edited by Da_Czar; 08-18-2023, 11:26 AM.
            Catch me on that #SimNation #SimHangOut Friday's @ 10:00 pm est https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...N7yxMiElOpMl_B

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            • Da_Czar
              NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
              • Jul 2002
              • 5408

              #186
              Re: NBA 2K24 Gameplay Enhancements Revealed with Trailer

              Originally posted by AIRJ23
              Aww damn.

              Can you share if MJ or any notable classic players got any new sigs (mo cap etc)?

              Also does Kobe fall into the classic player mo cap? Or being the cover star did he get proplay?

              Thanks for the insights.
              There are so many new animations that I see it would be hard for me to tell.
              Catch me on that #SimNation #SimHangOut Friday's @ 10:00 pm est https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...N7yxMiElOpMl_B

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              • MarkWilliam
                72-10
                • Oct 2012
                • 2325

                #187
                Re: NBA 2K24 Gameplay Enhancements Revealed with Trailer

                Prez, (if you see this) any chance you can confirm if the defenders in the KD and Steph part of the trailer are animating like they will in game or if they were "dressed up" to add realism to the trailer?

                I believe LD2K confirmed the KD move was legit and you can replicate in game. But the way the defenders were moving on those 2 specific plays looked so lifelike that I get the impression those animations might have been enhanced for the trailer..

                EDIT: Disregard this - I think it was answered in a previous "10 char" post.
                Last edited by MarkWilliam; 08-18-2023, 12:59 AM. Reason: Found answer in an earlier post.

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                • Pray_iv_m3rcy
                  Rookie
                  • Jun 2020
                  • 185

                  #188
                  Re: NBA 2K24 Gameplay Enhancements Revealed with Trailer

                  Originally posted by Da_Czar
                  There are so many new animations that I see it would be hard for me to tell.
                  Hey man besides animations do you have any insight on the complications with trying to alter the body types? Is there something us consumers are not taking into consideration that makes this a bigger hurdle than we realize?

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                  • Goffs
                    New Ork Giants
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 12279

                    #189
                    Re: NBA 2K24 Gameplay Enhancements Revealed with Trailer

                    Originally posted by MarkWilliam
                    Prez, (if you see this) any chance you can confirm if the defenders in the KD and Steph part of the trailer are animating like they will in game or if they were "dressed up" to add realism to the trailer?

                    I believe LD2K confirmed the KD move was legit and you can replicate in game. But the way the defenders were moving on those 2 specific plays looked so lifelike that I get the impression those animations might have been enhanced for the trailer..

                    EDIT: Disregard this - I think it was answered in a previous "10 char" post.
                    This to me is unfortunate...no love for the defensive side of animating. So its the same flat footed crab defense if that's the case.

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                    • EccentricMeat
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 3241

                      #190
                      Re: NBA 2K24 Gameplay Enhancements Revealed with Trailer

                      Originally posted by Da_Czar
                      For 2k24 shot coverage impact should get it done. We used to allow you to change the effectiveness of the initial and release shot contests and that is what I would play with in prior versions.
                      Did the Defense Strength sliders get removed in 2K24?

                      EDIT: Just re-read the defending section of the blog, and it looks like the defensive contest system has been completely revamped. Makes sense that these sliders would be removed/changed if the system is completely different.
                      Last edited by EccentricMeat; 08-18-2023, 04:28 AM.
                      My Slider Threads
                      NBA 2K25 "The Eccentric Edition" Realistic Slider Set
                      The "Movement" Sliders Explained
                      The "Defense" Sliders Explained

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                      • EccentricMeat
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 3241

                        #191
                        Re: NBA 2K24 Gameplay Enhancements Revealed with Trailer

                        Originally posted by Goffs
                        This to me is unfortunate...no love for the defensive side of animating. So its the same flat footed crab defense if that's the case.
                        Where did you get that? ProPLAY covers defensive movement as well. Plus they focused on improving the body-up system and removing/reducing sliding, as well as reworking the shot contest system.

                        Defense didn't get ignored.
                        My Slider Threads
                        NBA 2K25 "The Eccentric Edition" Realistic Slider Set
                        The "Movement" Sliders Explained
                        The "Defense" Sliders Explained

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                        • MarkWilliam
                          72-10
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 2325

                          #192
                          Re: NBA 2K24 Gameplay Enhancements Revealed with Trailer

                          Originally posted by Goffs
                          This to me is unfortunate...no love for the defensive side of animating. So its the same flat footed crab defense if that's the case.
                          What I took from Czar's post is;

                          All of the animations in the trailer are in the game and you will see them at some stage, but they were strategically used in the trailer to showcase their existence....

                          If that makes sense..(and also, if that's correct...?).

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                          • jrose57
                            MVP
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 3513

                            #193
                            Re: NBA 2K24 Gameplay Enhancements Revealed with Trailer

                            Originally posted by Da_Czar
                            There are so many new animations that I see it would be hard for me to tell.
                            hi czar, will cpu take note of mismatches this year? last year the game is unplayable, because after switching in pnr situation, i can back down the smaller defender and dunk all day...other cpu players just watch me do that all day

                            and the year before i remember i could drive into the paint all day

                            none of the previous 2k is playable honestly, my exp came from both ps5 and switch version

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                            • MarkWilliam
                              72-10
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 2325

                              #194
                              Re: NBA 2K24 Gameplay Enhancements Revealed with Trailer

                              Originally posted by Da_Czar
                              When I play 23 and go immediately to 24 it is not really even close. But I guess from the trailer you really don't have much to go on. There is so much detail in pro play that 23 feel super generic to me. Once you see 7-8 players on the floor with their own jog or run at the same time it is hard to go back. The little things you see make it dope. Also makes the game play really smooth especially in comparison to 2k23. Please keep in mind these are my opinions. But people who have played the game seem to agree on this particular point.
                              "Once you see 7-8 players on the floor with their own jog or run at the same time it is hard to go back."

                              This right here, excites me. I really wish we had more to chew on visually from this week.

                              Would LOVE to see an example of this - even it it's for only 20 seconds... just to get more of a raw look at how the game is animating now.. 2K season is the ultimate test of human patience haha...

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                              • Pray_iv_m3rcy
                                Rookie
                                • Jun 2020
                                • 185

                                #195
                                Re: NBA 2K24 Gameplay Enhancements Revealed with Trailer

                                Originally posted by MarkWilliam
                                "Once you see 7-8 players on the floor with their own jog or run at the same time it is hard to go back."

                                This right here, excites me. I really wish we had more to chew on visually from this week.

                                Would LOVE to see an example of this - even it it's for only 20 seconds... just to get more of a raw look at how the game is animating now.. 2K season is the ultimate test of human patience haha...
                                You and me both. Some live unedited gameplay footage today would be a great way to cap off the week dedicated to showing of ProPlay

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