Where is the shrink floor, wall up, and pressure shooters button?

[The 24th Letter]

Re: Where is the shrink floor, wall up, and pressure shooters button?

Just so you know "by design" in game design speak doesn't always mean "we're happy with this" or whatever, it's just that y'all are probably onto something that it probably breaks something else etc. so it's been put in place this way.

Yep.

That’s the reason I posted the actual reply.


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[GisherJohn24]

Re: Where is the shrink floor, wall up, and pressure shooters button?

A topic already exists that attempts to explain the numerous problems. In NBA2K25, things have evolved a bit, but overall the issue remains the same: it doesn’t work. Three menus, none of them complete, and all of them malfunctioning.

https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/nba-2k-basketball/1014790-nba2k24-offensive-defensive-settings-all-bugs-fix-expected-improvements.html

Below is an image showing that this existed in previous NBA2K games (and it worked well)

It’s in 25 current gen too. As mentioned. Works fine.


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[MrFil23]

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It’s in 25 current gen too. As mentioned. Works fine.


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Why are you saying that it works well? It doesn’t work at all, I just tried again.

It’s crazy that they removed such an important feature from the game. I find it unbelievable! The game is really losing quality, and we’re far from the time when gameplay and basketball fundamentals were the focus of development...

[Eddie1967]

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Why are you saying that it works well? It doesn’t work at all, I just tried again.

It’s crazy that they removed such an important feature from the game. I find it unbelievable! The game is really losing quality, and we’re far from the time when gameplay and basketball fundamentals were the focus of development...

I agree. As I said previously, this option exists in old gen which I am playing on. The more I hear about items being removed from current gen systems for Madden and now NB2K25, my days of playing video sports games will end when these games are current gen only. It doesn't seem worth the upgrade.

[VictorMG]

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I'm gonna say it-- just saying "That's by design" isn't good customer support. That gives us no insight as to why such a major feature is missing from only one console, whether or not they intend to make an attempt to fix it, or anything.


We can infer that it was a literal game-breaking bug that forced them to remove it, but "That's by design" does noting to confirm or deny that. It's so vague when providing more detail would have been simple and easy.

[Fake Empire]

Re: Where is the shrink floor, wall up, and pressure shooters button?

I'm gonna say it-- just saying "That's by design" isn't good customer support. That gives us no insight as to why such a major feature is missing from only one console, whether or not they intend to make an attempt to fix it, or anything.


We can infer that it was a literal game-breaking bug that forced them to remove it, but "That's by design" does noting to confirm or deny that. It's so vague when providing more detail would have been simple and easy.

My understanding is they ran into major issues with the on-the-fly adjustments. Truth is that defensive settings are working better than ever in a NBA 2K game. Probably the engine struggles to apply these settings in real time? This is the most logical explanation I can come up with when Czar uses the word "by design". It means they had issues with coding.
Old gen is a different version so we can't really compare it.

[strosdood]

Re: Where is the shrink floor, wall up, and pressure shooters button?

My understanding is they ran into major issues with the on-the-fly adjustments. Truth is that defensive settings are working better than ever in a NBA 2K game. Probably the engine struggles to apply these settings in real time? This is the most logical explanation I can come up with when Czar uses the word "by design". It means they had issues with coding.
Old gen is a different version so we can't really compare it.

I’m 99% sure that when they remove a feature it’s because it can’t function like it needs to or it creates issues elsewhere, not sure why anyone would thing anything else


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[VictorMG]

Re: Where is the shrink floor, wall up, and pressure shooters button?

My understanding is they ran into major issues with the on-the-fly adjustments. Truth is that defensive settings are working better than ever in a NBA 2K game. Probably the engine struggles to apply these settings in real time? This is the most logical explanation I can come up with when Czar uses the word "by design". It means they had issues with coding.
Old gen is a different version so we can't really compare it.

I don't know if I misunderstood you, but it's not a new-gen/old-gen issue IIRC. It's there on Xbox Series X/S, but not PS5 (correct me if I'm wrong).

[Fake Empire]

Re: Where is the shrink floor, wall up, and pressure shooters button?

I’m 99% sure that when they remove a feature it’s because it can’t function like it needs to or it creates issues elsewhere, not sure why anyone would thing anything else


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Because the trust between the company and the consumer is already broken due to other decisions "by design". The 2 purchase VC screens you're greeted to when you launch the game are also "by design". A different kind of design but unfortunately this isn't the way to build some trust.

[sirjam]

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I don't know if I misunderstood you, but it's not a new-gen/old-gen issue IIRC. It's there on Xbox Series X/S, but not PS5 (correct me if I'm wrong).

It’s not on Xbox

[sirjam]

Re: Where is the shrink floor, wall up, and pressure shooters button?

My understanding is they ran into major issues with the on-the-fly adjustments. Truth is that defensive settings are working better than ever in a NBA 2K game. Probably the engine struggles to apply these settings in real time? This is the most logical explanation I can come up with when Czar uses the word "by design". It means they had issues with coding.
Old gen is a different version so we can't really compare it.

No they don’t

[jk31]

Re: Where is the shrink floor, wall up, and pressure shooters button?

yep they do. most of the stuff actually does what its intended to.

[sirjam]

Re: Where is the shrink floor, wall up, and pressure shooters button?

yep they do. most of the stuff actually does what its intended to.

Ok. If you say so

[Gogi76]

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Truth is that defensive settings are working better than ever in a NBA 2K game. Probably the engine struggles to apply these settings in real time? This is the most logical explanation I can come up with when Czar uses the word "by design". It means they had issues with coding.
Old gen is a different version so we can't really compare it.

How do you mean, defensive settings are working better than ever? Even in 2k24 they were not good, and my opinion is, it's even worse now. Sorry, but i can't get the feeling, the game is mocking me with every adjustment i make while having timeouts. If i choose shrink the floor, they start to penetrate my paint as walking in the park; if i choose protect the perimeter, every one of them is slicing me with threes, even making incredible shoots. My hands up defense is pennyless against them. And i play on superstar level. So far, i'm forced to wait for proper patch or risk breaking the dualsense cause the game is half product for me.

[Fake Empire]

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How do you mean, defensive settings are working better than ever? Even in 2k24 they were not good, and my opinion is, it's even worse now. Sorry, but i can't get the feeling, the game is mocking me with every adjustment i make while having timeouts. If i choose shrink the floor, they start to penetrate my paint as walking in the park; if i choose protect the perimeter, every one of them is slicing me with threes, even making incredible shoots. My hands up defense is pennyless against them. And i play on superstar level. So far, i'm forced to wait for proper patch or risk breaking the dualsense cause the game is half product for me.

Def settings and all coach settings are working and the implementation is the best in the series. Last night I gave a coach instruction to shut down a specific cpu player and his matchup was all over him. When you choose protect the perimeter you can clearly see the adjustments. Am I playing a different game?