Did The Last Patch screw this game up??..

[MiracleMet718]

Re: Did The Last Patch screw this game up??..

I am missing layups that are the slightest bit contested and shooting the ball is a joke. Mid range jumpers and threes are so bad I shoot 1-6;2-10;etc. with my best shooters most games.

What shot settings are you using? What layup options are you using?

The layups were an issue at launch and have been mostly fixed. I use more eurostep, floaters, or left/right layups than to the basket layups and I’ve had much more success with them. Need to hear more about your shooting woes because I’m definitely not seeing that. Curious if its the shot setup settings because you should be able to make anything that’s not smothered or tight contested pretty easily.

[TexasRyan]

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What shot settings are you using? What layup options are you using?

The layups were an issue at launch and have been mostly fixed. I use more eurostep, floaters, or left/right layups than to the basket layups and I’ve had much more success with them. Need to hear more about your shooting woes because I’m definitely not seeing that. Curious if its the shot setup settings because you should be able to make anything that’s not smothered or tight contested pretty easily.

Perfect releasee animation & SFX
Visibility: user only
Graphic: flame
Placement: above player
Sound effect: money machine

Player indicator
Visibility: on
Graphic: circle
Color: red
Size: medium

Shot meter shots:
Visibility for shots, layups, free throws: on
Graphic: arrow
Color: white
Size: medium
Placement: to the side

Shot + layup timing profile: Low Risk-Reward
Free Throw Timing: User Timing
Shot Meter Input Type: All

Shot coverage impact: 50
Inside shot/close shot/mid range/3 pt/layup success: 60

[MiracleMet718]

Re: Did The Last Patch screw this game up??..

Perfect releasee animation & SFX
Visibility: user only
Graphic: flame
Placement: above player
Sound effect: money machine

Player indicator
Visibility: on
Graphic: circle
Color: red
Size: medium

Shot meter shots:
Visibility for shots, layups, free throws: on
Graphic: arrow
Color: white
Size: medium
Placement: to the side

Shot + layup timing profile: Low Risk-Reward
Free Throw Timing: User Timing
Shot Meter Input Type: All

Shot coverage impact: 50
Inside shot/close shot/mid range/3 pt/layup success: 60

For shot profile, try high risk-reward. Makes it more difficult but it’s much more focused on the actual shot feedback from what I’ve read.

I also turned off the shot meter as you get a slight bonus on it, but even if you keep it on, look at the release point of the shooter and try to ignore the meter. It helps get more consistent with each player since it’s easier to follow then the moving meter.

[CHiC25]

Re: Did The Last Patch screw this game up??..

I convinced and others have confirmed the patch has indeed screwed up the shooting. With Mike Wang even claiming shooting has a cap. I understand inconsistency happens, but this is not fun anymore. Im in practice mode more than actual games with the same players/team and its not getting better.. 2k took the fun out of this game in my opinion..

The cpu offensive boards and the lack of defenders having issues stopping the drives are other issues.

[TexasRyan]

Re: Did The Last Patch screw this game up??..

For shot profile, try high risk-reward. Makes it more difficult but it’s much more focused on the actual shot feedback from what I’ve read.

I also turned off the shot meter as you get a slight bonus on it, but even if you keep it on, look at the release point of the shooter and try to ignore the meter. It helps get more consistent with each player since it’s easier to follow then the moving meter.

I did this and I couldn't hardly make a shot it was frustrating I was like 2/12 with Luka, missing layups left and right (getting blocked by guards half his size haha) and etc.

[MiracleMet718]

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I did this and I couldn't hardly make a shot it was frustrating I was like 2/12 with Luka, missing layups left and right (getting blocked by guards half his size haha) and etc.

Interesting. Did you practice in freestyle mode first? Are you using floaters and euro steps or layups to left and right? The success of which layup you use matters directly to the location of the defender.

I’ll see if I can find a way to post examples because I’m taking layups with Brunson and making them even when contested. I’m using real player % for layups and high risk for shooting (mostly because the layup timing seems slightly off to me even though I used it previously). So if I can I’ll try to post something here.

[TexasRyan]

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Interesting. Did you practice in freestyle mode first? Are you using floaters and euro steps or layups to left and right? The success of which layup you use matters directly to the location of the defender.

I’ll see if I can find a way to post examples because I’m taking layups with Brunson and making them even when contested. I’m using real player % for layups and high risk for shooting (mostly because the layup timing seems slightly off to me even though I used it previously). So if I can I’ll try to post something here.

Yeah I think I'm going to have to mess with shooting sliders again. Maybe shot coverage indicator. I'm sure I'm just not very good at the game. But it takes away from the fun for me to not see shots go in very often.

[MiracleMet718]

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Yeah I think I'm going to have to mess with shooting sliders again. Maybe shot coverage indicator. I'm sure I'm just not very good at the game. But it takes away from the fun for me to not see shots go in very often.

Keep tinkering, but I’d also say keep trying shooting with feedback on, especially in freestyle and then scrimmage. I messed around with it a lot until I got comfortable a few years back. Now with rhythm shooting I had to do the same until I got comfortable and now I have all meters and feedback turned off and I’m shooting realistic numbers.

And like I said with layups, try different directions with the right stick depending on where your defender is. Eurosteps, spin moves, and others layup/drive types. It takes practice but makes you so much more dangerous on offense.

[CHiC25]

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So.. This is what I've gotten of this, at least on my end. Using Low-Normal-or-High Risk messes up the shooting makes it extremely difficult and almost unfair. The CPU will hit all types of shots, get to the basket with little resistance, and consistently get open uncontested shots.

Then i switched to player percentage for layups, and Risk shooting set to Based off of the Difficulty setting. And this game has been flowing MUCH better!! I now see a lot more loose balls, even off rebounds. CPU are not hitting EVERY open shot, which is more realistic. I'm no longer getting stuck behind 90% of the screens set on me which would cause some annoying player animations where they'd look completely lost.

I also have the shot feed back ON but no shot meters, no fatigue, and no turbo bar, making it display a much cleaner game. Went into practice mode prior to playing with a team to get accustom to the players shot timing. The cool part is even if the shot is no perfectly timed (which should result in a swish), being slightly early or slightly late the shot still has a chance to go in, resulting the ball hitting the rim multiple times before finally going in or falling out.

Players will finish uncontested or mismatch layups 90% as they should. Fast breaks are more fluid. Plus the offensive rebounding balance between human/cpu is a lot more balanced!!

For my slider i have it even across the board for both human/cpu so is a fair match. This has been a great balance for me and would suggest anyone interested in a fair well balanced game of basketball to start here and tweak as needed.

[CHiC25]

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Keep tinkering, but I’d also say keep trying shooting with feedback on, especially in freestyle and then scrimmage. I messed around with it a lot until I got comfortable a few years back. Now with rhythm shooting I had to do the same until I got comfortable and now I have all meters and feedback turned off and I’m shooting realistic numbers.

And like I said with layups, try different directions with the right stick depending on where your defender is. Eurosteps, spin moves, and others layup/drive types. It takes practice but makes you so much more dangerous on offense.

Using different types of lay ups are key also. Learning to use left and right hand lay ups as well as floats based on the situation..

[MiracleMet718]

Re: Did The Last Patch screw this game up??..

So.. This is what I've gotten of this, at least on my end. Using Low-Normal-or-High Risk messes up the shooting makes it extremely difficult and almost unfair. The CPU will hit all types of shots, get to the basket with little resistance, and consistently get open uncontested shots.

Then i switched to player percentage for layups, and Risk shooting set to Based off of the Difficulty setting. And this game has been flowing MUCH better!! I now see a lot more loose balls, even off rebounds. CPU are not hitting EVERY open shot, which is more realistic. I'm no longer getting stuck behind 90% of the screens set on me which would cause some annoying player animations where they'd look completely lost.

I also have the shot feed back ON but no shot meters, no fatigue, and no turbo bar, making it display a much cleaner game. Went into practice mode prior to playing with a team to get accustom to the players shot timing. The cool part is even if the shot is no perfectly timed (which should result in a swish), being slightly early or slightly late the shot still has a chance to go in, resulting the ball hitting the rim multiple times before finally going in or falling out.

Players will finish uncontested or mismatch layups 90% as they should. Fast breaks are more fluid. Plus the offensive rebounding balance between human/cpu is a lot more balanced!!

For my slider i have it even across the board for both human/cpu so is a fair match. This has been a great balance for me and would suggest anyone interested in a fair well balanced game of basketball to start here and tweak as needed.

Turning off shot meter is key. You used to get a larger bonus in previous years, but even with that toned down I still find it’s easier to shoot seeing the players release point rather than trying to line up the meter.

[CHiC25]

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Turning off shot meter is key. You used to get a larger bonus in previous years, but even with that toned down I still find it’s easier to shoot seeing the players release point rather than trying to line up the meter.

Setting the release to default has changed so many elements of the game. As though the other settings were compensating to allow the cpu to keep up..

[sirjam]

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Setting the release to default has changed so many elements of the game. As though the other settings were compensating to allow the cpu to keep up..

Elaborate please

[CHiC25]

Re: Did The Last Patch screw this game up??..

Elaborate please

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for weeks i toyed with Low/High Risk shooting, and the game just appeared to play off, at least based off my setting of evening out Human/CPU. Open shots were automatic for the CPU, very little lose balls, CPU would dominate the OFF boards, and human players missing ALOT of open layups. its very difficult to calculate the timing of layups especially with defenders contesting. This was even with me using different hands and lay ups types.

Best i can say is give it a try for yourself and see what comes up on your end. LMK what you get..

[sirjam]

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What are you meaning by default release?