7th Official NBA 2K25 Player Ratings Update - 2.13.25

[Real2KInsider]

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Zion possibly at Small Forward! (shifting CJ & Murphy down).

Kelly Olynyk made his debut and started in the frontcourt next to Yves Missi. Unclear if this was matchup based against a size-starved DAL team, or something permanent moving forward.

Rotation-wise
Alvarado was the backup PG to CJ
Bruce Brown was Zion's backup
Jordan Hawkins was Olynyk's backup (Pels ran small)

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Defensively he's not spending any time on the perimeter, functioning mostly as a helper. I can get behind him as a 3 because he has never been a good enough rebounder or shot blocker at the 4.

Olynyk had a team best +30 Net Rating in 24 mins, I assume they are gonna stick with it moving forward.
Bruce Brown -32 Net Rating, they got killed in non-Zion minutes.

[Real2KInsider]

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Eastern Conference
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Western Conference
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[Redsdude]

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Gonna go ahead and start my franchise with this update.
Any notes on the Grizz roster? Any major changes you guys would make to any of the players?

[Real2KInsider]

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Gonna go ahead and start my franchise with this update.
Any notes on the Grizz roster? Any major changes you guys would make to any of the players?

2K removed badges from Desmond Bane back in December, when they dropped him from an 83 OVR to an 80. They've since brought him back up to an 85 OVR, yet they never restored the badges lost. His total of 9 is also pretty low for a borderline All-Star.

Jaylen Wells only has two badges, none related to defense.

In general the team is pretty heinous defensively even though they're 7th IRL.

Scotty Pippen Jr has a high rating only because they pumped his Intangibles (95), most of his attributes are otherwise pretty bad. You could say that about a lot of the Grizz, 2K is fluffing their OVRs to where they should be, but as a small market they're not giving them a ton of specific focus.

Real 2K Rosters Memphis Grizzlies Comparison
ALL-NBA (90+)
90 (-1) Jaren Jackson Jr
90 (NC) Ja Morant
ALL-STAR (85+)
87 (+2) Desmond Bane
STARTER (80+)
82 (+1) Zach Edey
82 (+2) Santi Aldama
80 (+2) Luke Kennard
HIGH ROLE PLAYER (78+)
79 (NC) Jaylen Wells
79 (NC) Scotty Pippen Jr
LOW ROLE PLAYER (75+)
77 (-2) Brandon Clarke
77 (-1) G.G. Jackson
77 (NC) Vince Williams
77 (+1) Jay Huff
77 (NC) Marvin Bagley
NON-ROTATION (70+)
74 (+1) John Konchar
74 (NC) Lamar Stevens
70 (+2) Cam Spencer
70 (+3) Zyon Pullin
G-LEAGUE (65+)
68 (+1) Yuki Kawamura

158 Badges (+53)

[Redsdude]

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2K removed badges from Desmond Bane back in December, when they dropped him from an 83 OVR to an 80. They've since brought him back up to an 85 OVR, yet they never restored the badges lost. His total of 9 is also pretty low for a borderline All-Star.

Jaylen Wells only has two badges, none related to defense.

In general the team is pretty heinous defensively even though they're 7th IRL.

Scotty Pippen Jr has a high rating only because they pumped his Intangibles (95), most of his attributes are otherwise pretty bad. You could say that about a lot of the Grizz, 2K is fluffing their OVRs to where they should be, but as a small market they're not giving them a ton of specific focus.

Real 2K Rosters Memphis Grizzlies Comparison
ALL-NBA (90+)
90 (-1) Jaren Jackson Jr
90 (NC) Ja Morant
ALL-STAR (85+)
87 (+2) Desmond Bane
STARTER (80+)
82 (+1) Zach Edey
82 (+2) Santi Aldama
80 (+2) Luke Kennard
HIGH ROLE PLAYER (78+)
79 (NC) Jaylen Wells
79 (NC) Scotty Pippen Jr
LOW ROLE PLAYER (75+)
77 (-2) Brandon Clarke
77 (-1) G.G. Jackson
77 (NC) Vince Williams
77 (+1) Jay Huff
77 (NC) Marvin Bagley
NON-ROTATION (70+)
74 (+1) John Konchar
74 (NC) Lamar Stevens
70 (+2) Cam Spencer
70 (+3) Zyon Pullin
G-LEAGUE (65+)
68 (+1) Yuki Kawamura

158 Badges (+53)

Are your rosters in the vault? I’ll take a look and see what attributes and badges need to be changed

[Real2KInsider]

Re: 7th Official NBA 2K25 Player Ratings Update - 2.13.25

LeBron James last 10 games:
29 PPG, 9 RPG, 8 APG
66% TS
+83 lmao
8-2 record
Wins over Nuggets, Knicks, Clippers, Warriors, and Pacers

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Lakers are the 4th seed (34-21) through 55 games.
Fan Duel had their Over/Under set at 42.5 (11th in the West).

LeBron about to make his 21st All-NBA team.

Which I'd currently project as such:
1st Team: SGA, Mitchell, Tatum, Giannis, Jokic
2nd: Brunson, Garland, LeBron, JJJ, Mobley
3rd: Dame, Curry, Ant, Jalen Williams, KAT

[jeebs9]

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I need Cade Cunningham to get Post game boost. At the very least a hook rating boost. They consistently call plays for him.

https://x.com/UsherNBA/status/1893853135845699863?t=FUoFGVyWtwKGUlFgVoXiWg&s=19

[Real2KInsider]

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I need Cade Cunningham to get Post game boost. At the very least a hook rating boost. They consistently call plays for him.

https://x.com/UsherNBA/status/189385...lFgVoXiWg&s=19

Cade is 30th in Post Touches with 1.7 per game. Among non-bigs:
3.2 LeBron
2.7 Tobias Harris
2.5 Jaylen Brown
1.8 Ingram
1.7 Cade
1.6 Butler
1.6 Luka
1.5 Middleton
1.4 Tatum
1.3 Jerami Grant
1.2 Andrew Wiggins
1.2 Mikal Bridges
1.2 Anunoby
1.1 Kawhi
1.1 SGA

Cade's 60 Post Control hasn't been touched in FOUR YEARS. Which is among the reasons I call for Stauffer's job. Don't fire him, just re-assign him. He had his shot.

Pistons Post Ratings
86 Tobias Harris (3.1 per 36)
80 Isaiah Stewart (0.8)
77 Jalen Duren (0.6)
70 Paul Reed (0.0)
70 Tolu Smith (who the **** is that)
60 Cade Cunningham (1.8)
50 Simone Fontecchio (0.1)
50 Bobi Klintman (4.5) - 1 in 8 minutes
45 Ausar Thompson (0.4)
44 Jaden Ivey
42 Ron Holland (0.1)
41 Malik Beasley
38 Tim Hardaway Jr
37 Marcus Sasser
34 Lindy Waters III
30 Ron Harper Jr
28 Daniss Jenkins
27 Dennis Schroder

You can't make up that level of negligence.
Oh by the way we're ONLY talking about a #1 Overall pick who just played in his first All-Star game a week ago.
The good news is since I got around to bashing his performance they'll actually make a rating change, that's the one constant of his tenure. The other is waiting for someone else to do the work.

[AIRJ23]

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LeBron James last 10 games:
29 PPG, 9 RPG, 8 APG
66% TS
+83 lmao
8-2 record
Wins over Nuggets, Knicks, Clippers, Warriors, and Pacers

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Lakers are the 4th seed (34-21) through 55 games.
Fan Duel had their Over/Under set at 42.5 (11th in the West).

LeBron about to make his 21st All-NBA team.

Which I'd currently project as such:
1st Team: SGA, Mitchell, Tatum, Giannis, Jokic
2nd: Brunson, Garland, LeBron, JJJ, Mobley
3rd: Dame, Curry, Ant, Jalen Williams, KAT

Oh now we’re talking plus/minus? Lmao

Tell me, oh Excuser, how does a man have a NEGATIVE plus minus with a solidly winning record? Must be all that “carrying the team” he’s doing. Can’t be the fact that the team has the most loaded roster in the league when left to their own devices.

If LeBron can’t win a chip with LUKA FREAKIN DONCIC as his help, then I hope you got that excuser 2.0 ready to deploy.

[AIRJ23]

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I think MJ is the GOAT personally, but if you can’t appreciate what LeBron has done in his career, it’s just hating this point. No need to compare him or MJ or Kareem or other guys that played into their 40s. Appreciate him while he’s still in the league because he’s one of the all time greats and only has another year or two left tops.

I agree with this. I just think LBJ gets overstated a lot by his fans. His longevity is no doubt second to none, but I feel many try to paint longevity as the key point to greatness when arguing on his behalf. His longevity also highlights many, many years where he was not selected to an all nba first team (9 years of his career), or won a chip (18 years of his career, and 2 rings were shortened/lockout seasons), 18 years without an mvp. No DPOY, fairly lackluster all defensive first teams for his time played. Only led the league in per game stats TWICE in 22 years. To me, greatness is measured mostly in how much you accomplish within the span of years played, as opposed to the accomplishment itself being how long you played while staying at a consistent level. The former means dominance, the latter means top tier consistency. IMO

[MiracleMet718]

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I agree with this. I just think LBJ gets overstated a lot by his fans. His longevity is no doubt second to none, but I feel many try to paint longevity as the key point to greatness when arguing on his behalf. His longevity also highlights many, many years where he was not selected to an all nba first team (9 years of his career), or won a chip (18 years of his career, and 2 rings were shortened/lockout seasons), 18 years without an mvp. No DPOY, fairly lackluster all defensive first teams for his time played. Only led the league in per game stats TWICE in 22 years. To me, greatness is measured mostly in how much you accomplish within the span of years played, as opposed to the accomplishment itself being how long you played while staying at a consistent level. The former means dominance, the latter means top tier consistency. IMO

Agreed for the most part, but I wouldn’t get on him about MVP though. He probably should’ve won almost every year of his prime, but we know how the NBA does the MVP voting and spreads it out because they are afraid to give players like Wilt/MJ the trophy more than 3 years on a row. If you want to look at the subjective accomplishments, that’s fine. But even with him slowing down, I’d argue he both dominated and showed top tier consistency, with more of the latter in his last few seasons.

We never got a chance to see it with MJ since he took off those sets of years and then people overlook his Wizards years, but he’s looking like Kareem from ages 35-38 right now. Still relatively dominant but more so consistently at the top of the league in talent. Going to be sad when he finally retires because I genuinely don’t know who the next true elite superstar talent is going to be. There are still great players in the league, but I just feel like there aren’t any complete package stars in the league anymore like we had with Bird/Magic, MJ, Kobe, and LeBron when it comes to on and off court superstardom.

[Real2KInsider]

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Oh now we’re talking plus/minus? Lmao

As a means to mock you, yes.

His longevity also highlights many many years where he was not selected to an all nba first team (9 years of his career)

You get mocked because you consistently attempt to frame things in an unabashedly biased manner.

LeBron was All-NBA First team ELEVEN CONSECUTIVE SEASONS (Age 23 to 33).
He made it THIRTEEN times in FIFTEEN years (Age 21 to 35).

Conversely, Michael Jordan made a TOTAL of 11 All-NBA teams.
Ten on the first team, which is 3 fewer than LeBron. Age 23-29 & Age 32-34.
Note that Age range!

Guess he shouldn't have retired for five seasons!
Sorry, Jordan doesn't get CREDIT for NOT playing Age 35-37.

Jordan DID NOT make an All-NBA team at Age 38 or Age 39.
LeBron DID.
He will make it in his Age 40 season, whereas Jordan was out of the league.

[AIRJ23]

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Agreed for the most part, but I wouldn’t get on him about MVP though. He probably should’ve won almost every year of his prime, but we know how the NBA does the MVP voting and spreads it out because they are afraid to give players like Wilt/MJ the trophy more than 3 years on a row. If you want to look at the subjective accomplishments, that’s fine. But even with him slowing down, I’d argue he both dominated and showed top tier consistency, with more of the latter in his last few seasons.

We never got a chance to see it with MJ since he took off those sets of years and then people overlook his Wizards years, but he’s looking like Kareem from ages 35-38 right now. Still relatively dominant but more so consistently at the top of the league in talent. Going to be sad when he finally retires because I genuinely don’t know who the next true elite superstar talent is going to be. There are still great players in the league, but I just feel like there aren’t any complete package stars in the league anymore like we had with Bird/Magic, MJ, Kobe, and LeBron when it comes to on and off court superstardom.

True. Since Magic, then MJ, then Kobe sorta, then LeBron, the NBA has had a “viral star” for decades. We don’t have that now. We have Luka and Joker putting up insane stats, but are unathletic white guys who are meme’d for being out of shape gonna carry the league and amass viral superstardom? Doubt it. Wemby arrived just in time, but his recent injury is kinda scary. Also, tall players often don’t get credited for their greatness as much as more “regular sized” players who are more relatable in their skillsets.

And indeed, would’ve been nice to know how Mj’s career looked if he didn’t retire twice in his prime. It’s not like Michael friggin Jordan doesn’t get enough credit, but people don’t really grasp how otherworldly it is to be widely considered the greatest *athlete* of all time while retiring TWICE IN HIS PRIME. Also indeed, people don’t realize how good wizards MJ was namely before injury. 25/7/6 his first 35 games while taking the 17(?) win wizards into a DEEP playoff run (which fell apart after injury). Those are INSANE NUMBERS for 2002.

Wizards MJ also gets sabotaged by people comparing his stat line and efficiency to today’s game which is like flag football compared to 2000’s hard hitting insane defense and slow pacing. But to be fair, I’ll call that a wash since while old Lebron gets artificially favored for his stats during the highest scoring, least defense oriented era, young LeBron had to play in the 2000’s (albeit he only had to play 1 year vs legal hand checks and never played with no defensive 3 second rule) which smothered his stats and while old Mj had to endure the dead ball era (late 90’s-early 00’s), young MJ was benefitted by the 80’s scoring and pacing which is much like todays.

[AIRJ23]

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As a means to mock you, yes.

Lmao mocking me while bragging about a -27 plus/minus for a guy on a team with a 34-21 record??

This is exactly the type of overhyping I’m talking about with some lebron stans. You’re BRAGGING about a plus/minus by the only superstar in the league with a NEGATIVE plus/minus despite a winning record, while his team literally is net positive when he’s off the court. He gets credited for stuff no one else would.

[Real2KInsider]

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Lmao mocking me while bragging about a -27 plus/minus for a guy on a team with a 34-21 record??

I'm not bragging. I'm literally mocking you to your face and it's going completely over your head.

18 years without an mvp

Michael Jordan has had 57 years without an MVP. Sorry, he doesn't get credit for entering the league late, leaving early, and whatever that minor league baseball intermission was.

Bill Russell won a championship in all but two of his seasons. Michael Jordan was a loser by comparison. This is your reductionist thinking in a nutshell.


OH BY THE WAY TO ACTUALLY STAY ON TOPIC
If LeBron is having an All-NBA season his Overall rating is justified.
Cry about it. For the fifth consecutive year.