Taking budget baller to another level

[Ichi]

Re: Taking budget baller to another level

Hi all...

TL;DR? Jump to "Now the game breaks" to see the maths I did about if the games holds himself just by playing it.

Thank you for the suggestions and replies.

John Starks is great, but a bit to small for me at the 2.
TBT Bledsoe seems great, will definitely give him try if I find him cheap.
DR Wes would be cool. Who would you take out? Green, Middleton, none of them? Is the improvement worth the MT?
Payton is not possible. Extra MT cost is not something I can take (you'll see why down below).

So, update:

Luckily I was able to win the 2 more games on seed 6 and advance.

With your help I managed to build a team that has tons of solutions. My bench is so good that ends up winning the games for me. Having Rondo, Middleton, AK, Porzingis and Alonzo of the bench was awesome. AK and Porzingis just destroy the opponent's bench on the break, also, usually the opponent's bench does't have anyone capable of dealing with AK on both ends of the floor.

I'm so happy, and having so much fun with this lineup... and Rubio's rebounding? It literally won me a game.

So 5th seed should be tough, but I'm fairly confident that I'll make it, even if not at the first time.

Now the game Breaks

So, you guys gave suggestions for a 3rd option of the bench, and I thought about doing that, but it's just not possible.

First of all, it's not possible to have 10 gold players in my lineup and be able earn decent amounts of MT. This because what I can get by playing the game is borderline nothing. Lets do some maths to understand the next moves.

My current lineup costs me 308MT per match.

• 7 silvers cost 140
• 3 golds cost 144
• 3 bronze cost 24

If I average, let's say 700MT per match (which is reasonable as matches become more competitive), I'd be getting 392MT after paying the contracts.

A 10 gold and 3 bronze will cost 504MT per match, leaving me with just under 200MT per match.

That would mean that I could afford Bob Cousy, the cheapest amethyst (if I wanted him), after 125 matches approximately.

Luckily I don't want him.

This goes to show that the game does not hold himself as you can't generate enough MT by playing online, and there should definitely be an MT reward each time you finish a season, independently the result, to be able to progress in the game.

So...

Next steps (suggestions are needed):

I really don't know. I feel that I need at least 3 more gold players to hold my own in an unrestricted seed. A PG, a SG/SF and a C.

PG - I have my eyes set on gold Stockton as he has Defensive Anchor and Floor General, can defend and shot it and is Rubio & Rondo but in awesome. I'm hoping for his price to come down.

SG/SF - I'm not sure. Klay is someone I've been playing for 2 years and like to use, but would like to have your opinion. SG that can play SF, defend 1 to 3 and shot the ball.

C - I don't know DPOY? Seriously have no idea.

[2kNerd]

Re: Taking budget baller to another level

I love threads like this one...

Interesting strategy...and I'm curious to see the results.

I tend to look at my BUDGET in MyTeam also...but I do it more so that I can make some MT to buy Badges.

It's funny you've mentioned some of the same players I've been using recently....like Silver Mourning. You have to watch his minutes because of his Stamina rating, but he is a very solid role player as a Silver.

Another guy I've been using is TBT Silver Boris Diaw. One of my favorite players in the game. He can post up, play in the mid post, pass, and is excellent in the PnR both as a roller and in pick-n-pop. He's also a solid defender who can play multiple spots. If you wanna play small, he can be a 5...if you want to play big, he can play the 3....and dominate most SF's in the post.

Maybe check out some of the DPOY players....Ben Wallace is cheap...so is Ron Artest. Both of these guys are in my '3 Gold' RTTP lineup.

Artest at the 2 is a matchup nightmare. He can defend and is a beast with his back to the basket once you get a feel for using the post up controls.

The only issue with him is that in order to get the FULL effect of a guy like him on BOTH ends of the court...it really helps to get a couple of Perimeter Lockdown Defender badges - and those are expensive.

Getting 2 of them to bump a card to Gold will cost you around 5500 to 6500 MT...on PS4.


As far as 'bang for your buck' goes....the high-end Silver players give you the best return on investment. Some of them can be purchased for under 2000 MT and if you buy contracts 5 at a time, the salary is only 20 MT/gm.

So...it might be better to invest in those cards and Badge them up - instead of buying Gold cards. If your goal is to earn MT solely thru online games...then it's gonna be tough to do that with too many Gold players.

Just a note...Dynamic Tony Allen now has a 75 Standing 3PT...I bought him a few days ago when I noticed the bump.

Other Silvers wo can help players on a budget are:

01 Rick Fox....he's fast, defends, and makes 3's...also is a good passer.

96 Ron Harper....has Floor General and is a good defender with size. Can even play him at the 2 or 3 if you want to get creative...or is just a nice guy to have off the bench, especially with the Floor General badge helping your bench bunch.

[2kNerd]

Re: Taking budget baller to another level

Oh...one more thing...

TBT Kirilenko is a nice card...but I struggle with his release on 3's at times. And his lack of badges is a joke. My card is all badged up with Gold Perimeter Lockdown, Gold Eraser and Silver Dimer. But I had to add those...so he's maxed out at 4 Badges...

TBT Gerald Wallace is a slightly similar card. A little more athletic with a better 3PT shot...but slightly worse on D. His badges are a little better though. But you still need to add some to him.

He can be a beast in the right system...and he's versatile. You can even use him against teams with guys like Melo as a Stretch 4 because that Wallace card has 82 Speed, can defend, and even has an 83 Def Reb and 85 Boxout, I believe.

[synistr]

Re: Taking budget baller to another level

^ I have DR Tony Allen also, but I didnt mention the 3pt bump because he still is prob out of OP's price range. I put a 3pt shoe on him and his standing 3 is now 81. he is not a good 3pt scorer however, because he has super low OConsistency, but I would trust him to take a crucial 3 because it will catch the opponent by surprise. you know they are gonna sag off.

I forgot about Rick Fox, almost had him in my lineup but went with Carroll and Ariza insead. all are similar so you cant really go wrong but the reason I left Fox out of my lineup was because his OConsistency is 30...while the other guys are 65.

again, TBT Caron is a great budget scorer. he is excellent in transition...but I will tell you what makes him stand out among silvers....he has hot zones out front and iirc he has some on the corner and he comes with corner specialist. Microwave and Cool and Collected badges make him play MUCH better than his attributes suggest offensively. him, Wes Matthews, DR Rose, etc...are essentially gold players in silver tier.

[synistr]

Re: Taking budget baller to another level

Hi all...

TL;DR? Jump to "Now the game breaks" to see the maths I did about if the games holds himself just by playing it.

Thank you for the suggestions and replies.

John Starks is great, but a bit to small for me at the 2.
TBT Bledsoe seems great, will definitely give him try if I find him cheap.
DR Wes would be cool. Who would you take out? Green, Middleton, none of them? Is the improvement worth the MT?
Payton is not possible. Extra MT cost is not something I can take (you'll see why down below).

So, update:

Luckily I was able to win the 2 more games on seed 6 and advance.

With your help I managed to build a team that has tons of solutions. My bench is so good that ends up winning the games for me. Having Rondo, Middleton, AK, Porzingis and Alonzo of the bench was awesome. AK and Porzingis just destroy the opponent's bench on the break, also, usually the opponent's bench does't have anyone capable of dealing with AK on both ends of the floor.

I'm so happy, and having so much fun with this lineup... and Rubio's rebounding? It literally won me a game.

So 5th seed should be tough, but I'm fairly confident that I'll make it, even if not at the first time.

Now the game Breaks

So, you guys gave suggestions for a 3rd option of the bench, and I thought about doing that, but it's just not possible.

First of all, it's not possible to have 10 gold players in my lineup and be able earn decent amounts of MT. This because what I can get by playing the game is borderline nothing. Lets do some maths to understand the next moves.

My current lineup costs me 308MT per match.

• 7 silvers cost 140
• 3 golds cost 144
• 3 bronze cost 24

If I average, let's say 700MT per match (which is reasonable as matches become more competitive), I'd be getting 392MT after paying the contracts.

A 10 gold and 3 bronze will cost 504MT per match, leaving me with just under 200MT per match.

That would mean that I could afford Bob Cousy, the cheapest amethyst (if I wanted him), after 125 matches approximately.

Luckily I don't want him.

This goes to show that the game does not hold himself as you can't generate enough MT by playing online, and there should definitely be an MT reward each time you finish a season, independently the result, to be able to progress in the game.

So...

Next steps (suggestions are needed):

I really don't know. I feel that I need at least 3 more gold players to hold my own in an unrestricted seed. A PG, a SG/SF and a C.

PG - I have my eyes set on gold Stockton as he has Defensive Anchor and Floor General, can defend and shot it and is Rubio & Rondo but in awesome. I'm hoping for his price to come down.

SG/SF - I'm not sure. Klay is someone I've been playing for 2 years and like to use, but would like to have your opinion. SG that can play SF, defend 1 to 3 and shot the ball.

C - I don't know DPOY? Seriously have no idea.

I think you lost me...why can't you afford Payton? so are you eliminating your bronze cards?

Klay is HIGHLY recommended....mainly now because he is cheap. I just sold one I got from a pack yesterday for 3950. Not sure about him guarding PG's but he probably could if they were not too fast. He has 94 lat quick.

For budget guys that can lockdown 1-2-3, you gotta go with gold Butler or DPOY Cooper...followed by DPOY Artest....and the more pricey DPOY Kawhi. A silver alternative is Shumpert.

Stockton price coming down but I think Chauncey is way better aside from their hot zones and passing. He has Alpha Dog and Closer.

[2kNerd]

Re: Taking budget baller to another level

^ I have DR Tony Allen also, but I didnt mention the 3pt bump because he still is prob out of OP's price range. I put a 3pt shoe on him and his standing 3 is now 81. he is not a good 3pt scorer however, because he has super low OConsistency, but I would trust him to take a crucial 3 because it will catch the opponent by surprise. you know they are gonna sag off.

How much are the +6 ST3PT shoes?

Every time I've looked at them...they are crazy expensive. Personally, I'm not gonna pay 5K MT for a pair of shoes that last 6 or 9 games...thats just me.

[predator122]

Re: Taking budget baller to another level

I agree, Billups is probably the best PG in the game for you. I recommend taking out Middleton, he is kinda slow. If you really want a 2/3 guard, i agree with Artest recommendation (Leonard DPOY is a beast but he is more of a 3/4), i like Butler more than Klay since i use Klay only for 3p and Butler is more of a beast when driving and on fast breaks. Also, if you dont mind having a non 3p shooter in your team, DPOY Moncrief does everything else great and he is a terror on, can lock up everyone.

As for the C position, for every player there is a trade-off. Mutombo DPOY is a beast on D but kinda slow and does not have alot of badges and not really a threat on offense. DPOY Gasol is great on offense but is still also kinda slow and not really a good rebounder. DPOY Wallace is super fast and a great defender but also terrible on offense, undersized and a very bad FT shooter. Cousins can score and D a little but i find him struggling against top notch centers. Your best bet here is just to get a good pick & roll center who can defend since you can forget about scoring in the post against elite centers. DPOY Chandler is also a budget option that can do those things for your if you are really low on MT.

[Ichi]

Re: Taking budget baller to another level

I think you lost me...why can't you afford Payton? so are you eliminating your bronze cards?

Klay is HIGHLY recommended....mainly now because he is cheap. I just sold one I got from a pack yesterday for 3950. Not sure about him guarding PG's but he probably could if they were not too fast. He has 94 lat quick.

For budget guys that can lockdown 1-2-3, you gotta go with gold Butler or DPOY Cooper...followed by DPOY Artest....and the more pricey DPOY Kawhi. A silver alternative is Shumpert.

Stockton price coming down but I think Chauncey is way better aside from their hot zones and passing. He has Alpha Dog and Closer.

Sorry about that... I'll try to explain better.

I can't afford Payton because it adds salary cost, and every MT point counts.

I'm keeping the 3 bronze players as the 3 end of bench players because of contract price. I will only have a starter and a backup.

On the unrestricted seeds, the goal is to have 6 golds.

More than 6 golds 4 silvers and 3 bronzes, the cost of MT per contract per game is too high to allow me to make any real progress at a decent pace.

Definitely looking into Butler and Artest, and I agree, Klay seems like a no brainer at the moment. I used DPOY Cooper previously on this challenge and lacks consistency. When he shows up, he's the Player of the Game, but when he doesn't.

I used Chauncey in my main account, but didn't get the hang of his jumper. It's just one of those players.

Kawhi is too expensive, even though he's my favourite current NBA player, but I just can't afford him.

[synistr]

Re: Taking budget baller to another level

How much are the +6 ST3PT shoes?

Every time I've looked at them...they are crazy expensive. Personally, I'm not gonna pay 5K MT for a pair of shoes that last 6 or 9 games...thats just me.

I never pay full price for anything. I am a sniper and they are pretty easy to snipe, though you wouldn't build your collection in a day...just every time you are planning on doing a refresh check for them and there will be a pair out there a lot of times for around 1k. this is usually the average I pay for them...sometimes I grab em for 1500 but thats usually the most I pay and extras I flip and thats enough to cover what I bought. I have caught them for 250-500 quite a few times too but you gotta be fast. if you see some for 1500 grab em, they will sell instantly for 3500. I also get some from Gauntlet gold board.

Now the +3 shoes you can regularly find for 250....build those up and force them on the player of your choice.

shoes are very important I feel in this game. it makes a difference. there are two great shoes that you can always pick up for 250-300 and thats the Kobe one for OConsistency and the Lillard +6 speed.

glad you brought this up....thats another thing that can help out with the OP's lineup....EVERY player in ANY of my lineup has a shoe that I equipped. if your guy doesn't have a shoe put one on him....Kirilenko and LJ for instance would immediately benefit from +9 OConsistency and you can get as many as you want right now for 250.

[Ichi]

Re: Taking budget baller to another level

2kNerd, thank you. I'm having tons of fun with this now. I wasn't playing the game anymore.

Thanks for all the recommendations. DPOY Ron Artest is a good one, as is Gerald Wallace. I'm definitely checking their price and see if I can pick up any of them.

I love Diaw. The ratings don't making him justice IMO. I won't pick him up as I'm set for that position.

Tony Allen Off Consistency isn't there, and to be totally honest, I just don't like him very much.

Rick Fox is a great one. I think I might pick him up. I played with him once in other mode and he was awesome.


predator, yeah, Mutombo is slow, but Chandler on the other hand is a really interesting card, really really interesting.

So, I'm really bad a exploring driving opportunities, so players like Moncrief, I just suck with them.

Klay and Butler, it will come down to price I think, if I go with one of these two.

[Ichi]

Re: Taking budget baller to another level

glad you brought this up....thats another thing that can help out with the OP's lineup....EVERY player in ANY of my lineup has a shoe that I equipped. if your guy doesn't have a shoe put one on him....Kirilenko and LJ for instance would immediately benefit from +9 OConsistency and you can get as many as you want right now for 250.

I never used one single shoe, but I guess it may be a good thing in the unrestricted seeds.

So what would you think in terms priorities?

1. Buy 3 gold players
2. Buy badges
3. Buy shoes

?

Thanks. Shoes might really help a lot. I never thought about that because I kind of dislike the concept of boosts other than the badges and game momentum, but now I see the usefulness.

[LegitSkillz]

Re: Taking budget baller to another level

I never used one single shoe, but I guess it may be a good thing in the unrestricted seeds.



So what would you think in terms priorities?

1. Buy 3 gold players
   
2. Buy badges
   
3. Buy shoes
   

?



Thanks. Shoes might really help a lot. I never thought about that because I kind of dislike the concept of boosts other than the badges and game momentum, but now I see the usefulness.

Buy Current Jimmy Butler now, and put speed shoes on him. He is stronger than Klay, so he will be a better defender in the end. He is also faster, a better ball handler, draws a lot of fouls, better rebounder, and better defender overall


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[synistr]

Re: Taking budget baller to another level

I never used one single shoe, but I guess it may be a good thing in the unrestricted seeds.

So what would you think in terms priorities?

1. Buy 3 gold players
2. Buy badges
3. Buy shoes

?

Thanks. Shoes might really help a lot. I never thought about that because I kind of dislike the concept of boosts other than the badges and game momentum, but now I see the usefulness.

I agree. Do what Legitskillz says. Butler with speed shoes. Butler is an animal. Still, the reason why I recommend Klay is because his 3 ball is sooooo reliable for me. I can really rely on him. Personally, I use a combination of Klay/Nick Anderson, lethal. Butler should work out fine, I don't know what he is going for right now but should be pretty cheap.

1) gold players
2) shoes
3) badges

[2kNerd]

Re: Taking budget baller to another level

Okay...I have a dumb question.

I'm also a little BORED with MyTeam and thinking about starting MyTeam per on a new account as the OP "ichi" did.

The question is....HOW?

I created a new PSN account...but when I went to play Online it said I needed to sign up for PS+....uh...what?

I'm not gonna pay for a new PS+ account just to create a new MyTeam...

So...is there a way to do this WITHOUT having to buy a new PS+ account?

[2kNerd]

Re: Taking budget baller to another level

I never used one single shoe, but I guess it may be a good thing in the unrestricted seeds.

So what would you think in terms priorities?

1. Buy 3 gold players
2. Buy badges
3. Buy shoes

?

Thanks. Shoes might really help a lot. I never thought about that because I kind of dislike the concept of boosts other than the badges and game momentum, but now I see the usefulness.

I wasn't a fan of the Shoe boosts either when I started. But...I've learned that you can find some nice shoes for 250 MT that aren't too 'cheesy' if used the right way...or as a way to make up for some goofy 2K ratings.

I've used the OffCon badges...but not sure how effective they are. Have others seen them to be very effective?