Taking budget baller to another level

[synistr]

Re: Taking budget baller to another level

I don't know if it's just me having input lag, but the lateral quickness isn't showing. I was expecting him to be slow on offence, no on defence,

Also, missed 10 open 3s with Danny Green, Carroll and Middleton while my opponents were hitting contested 3s. I think 2k must have tweaked something and it affected, either that or I was just in bad luck streak.

who knows. I feel that 2k does slant the game sometimes, but maybe it was a bad game. Green doesn't have the easiest release for me but Carroll is usually money wide open. I still suggest giving TBT Caron a try because he is on xb1 today for 1k (after all TBT packs been open).

I still have s**t luck with packs but thats another rant...but I opened some TBT packs and got all silver trash and pulled TBT Ray 3x in a row. He is a shooter that shouldn't miss though. I put all 3 up for bid starting at 500 and they all sold for around 1750-2000.

[synistr]

Re: Taking budget baller to another level

I don't know if it's just me having input lag, but the lateral quickness isn't showing. I was expecting him to be slow on offence, no on defence,

Also, missed 10 open 3s with Danny Green, Carroll and Middleton while my opponents were hitting contested 3s. I think 2k must have tweaked something and it affected, either that or I was just in bad luck streak.

I just lost 2 games to guys I KNOW are not better than me. the first guy, I should've known, first open shot I took with Melo I missed. he came back and made contested 3..with Melo. so I should quit right there. the game was fairly close until he ran away with it at the end because I couldn't get nothing to go my way. Every shot I took was uncontested but I missed a ton of them. he mainly shot with Melo and made so many contested shots.

2nd game started out ok then I started missing open shots again and he was making shots falling out of bounds with T-Mac. Klay front-ended about 6 wide open shots.....first time he really let me down. I won one game with this lineup but I think its Melo...gonna take him back out. I just hate it when I miss like 5 wide open shots with Melo, Klay, Demarre and they come down on the break and just splash 3 after 3.

RTTP is frustrating af for me because I either blow guys out or get blown out. I haven't had very many games in between. Either I am on or off. Problem is, when I am off, the opponent is on fire.

[Ichi]

Re: Taking budget baller to another level

synistr, yep, 3 pointers are definitely falling at a lower rate today. I shot 33% on open 3s, and decided to put Klay as one of my gold players to solve the problem.
I had such a crappy luck that missed 4 free throws in a row with Klay.

Update:

Alright!! Finished the 5th seed with 3 Ls. One of them I lost to a better player, the other two, I got that nasty sensation that it was just not gonna go my way.

I was lucky with one of the three reward packs, I got Dwight.

I will try the unrestricted seed tomorrow and see how it is to go into the jungle.

As for the lineup for the unrestricted seed:

PG - Rubio
SG - Klay
SF - TBT AK
PF - Larry Johnson
C - DPOY Noah

Bench:
Stockton
Middelton
Carroll
Porzingis
Dwight

Rubio is a beast and unless he can't hold his own in the unrestricted seeds, I'm not taking him off the starting lineup.

To be totally honest, I feel that I will really struggle now, but I need to get MT to buy someone that will really improve my team. Now that I got Howard I can sell DPOY Chandler and speed up the process.

I have a few players I may want to try if Rubio doesn't hold, like Archibald and TBT Jrue (as suggested) or TBT Dragic.

I'll definitely need another SF as well. I feel that SF might be more important than PF at the moment, so I'm considering selling Stockton and pick up another PG and an SF. I'll probably do that if I get destroyed in the first matches.

I considered Gerald Wallace, but I'm not sure yet. Pippen is too expensive at the moment, PG13 is too inconsistent for my taste. I really like Kawhi (my favourite current player), but want to try someone new.

Request for suggestions is open!!

[Bubba13laze]

Re: Taking budget baller to another level

I really like the TBT Gerald Wallace. His 3 ball is on point and he is an excellent defender. Also he has 80+ speed and acceleration too!

TBT Caron Butler like synistr mentioned earlier is one of my favourite silver cards in the game. I usually slap +9 O consistency shoes on him and it helps him get that 3 ball to drop more. His defense and slashing is excellent and he always seems to be in the right spots.

Good luck in seed 4 !

[synistr]

Re: Taking budget baller to another level

synistr, yep, 3 pointers are definitely falling at a lower rate today. I shot 33% on open 3s, and decided to put Klay as one of my gold players to solve the problem.
I had such a crappy luck that missed 4 free throws in a row with Klay.

Update:

Alright!! Finished the 5th seed with 3 Ls. One of them I lost to a better player, the other two, I got that nasty sensation that it was just not gonna go my way.

I was lucky with one of the three reward packs, I got Dwight.

I will try the unrestricted seed tomorrow and see how it is to go into the jungle.

As for the lineup for the unrestricted seed:

PG - Rubio
SG - Klay
SF - TBT AK
PF - Larry Johnson
C - DPOY Noah

Bench:
Stockton
Middelton
Carroll
Porzingis
Dwight

Rubio is a beast and unless he can't hold his own in the unrestricted seeds, I'm not taking him off the starting lineup.

To be totally honest, I feel that I will really struggle now, but I need to get MT to buy someone that will really improve my team. Now that I got Howard I can sell DPOY Chandler and speed up the process.

I have a few players I may want to try if Rubio doesn't hold, like Archibald and TBT Jrue (as suggested) or TBT Dragic.

I'll definitely need another SF as well. I feel that SF might be more important than PF at the moment, so I'm considering selling Stockton and pick up another PG and an SF. I'll probably do that if I get destroyed in the first matches.

I considered Gerald Wallace, but I'm not sure yet. Pippen is too expensive at the moment, PG13 is too inconsistent for my taste. I really like Kawhi (my favourite current player), but want to try someone new.

Request for suggestions is open!!

yeah, I missed a lot of free throws today too with good shooters.

as far as a SF....man...your safest bet would be DPOY Artest if you don't want any of the aforementioned guys. I was thinking of this thread today and pondering that once I get done with RTTP I may come back and do it again using all Historic players.

With that said, I saw Sam Jones last night for 6k and didn't bite because I thought his price had plummeted due to pack openings...but he is back up to 30k today. Bob Dandridge has been cheap for a while though, he is like a shorter but better version of Rudy Gay. I really like Lou Hudson. All of these guys have very reliable jump shots with easy releases. Last year I used Jones in the Boston challenges as with Havlicek. This year I had Dandridge in my Gauntlet lineup. I used Hudson last year in Hawks challenges. All these guys are scoring machines.....Hudson is poor defender for a gold card but I just love historic guys, even if not accurately depicted by 2k.

[synistr]

Re: Taking budget baller to another level

I really like the TBT Gerald Wallace. His 3 ball is on point and he is an excellent defender. Also he has 80+ speed and acceleration too!

TBT Caron Butler like synistr mentioned earlier is one of my favourite silver cards in the game. I usually slap +9 O consistency shoes on him and it helps him get that 3 ball to drop more. His defense and slashing is excellent and he always seems to be in the right spots.

Good luck in seed 4 !

TBT Caron is a sleeper card. Doesn't play like a 78 rated player. Excellent scoring option. Again, DR Matthews surely can perform like a gold card. He's been cheap lately. He just went up a point and may be gold by next update so thats the downside.

[2kNerd]

Re: Taking budget baller to another level

There is no "loophole", I'm playing players where I see best fit in my scheme. The popular view is that if the Warriors played the '96 Bulls (since it's a currently hot debate topic) that Pippen would guard curry, correct? Did Pippen in '96 not double up Ron Harper in assists; if so why would this change in this matchup? Would this not make him essentially a PG in this series? If so, I face this situation often, being that if you play RTTP you will see plenty of Curry. I know you're thinking "well john wall is a much better playmaker than Harper, so this is invalid". You would be correct except for the fact that I can give the ball to john wall at any point in time to set up the offense if need be ( even though there isn't a great difference in their playmaking )... if they don't switch their defensive match ups it is their problem. I would play Wall at two, but I would leave Rip on an island guarding speed demons like Lebron, when he could be playing the two guarding usually klay. Lastly, who said there needs to be a precedent? Just because you've never seen wall play 3 in real life doesn't mean he couldn't. With his freakish wingspan and athleticism I feel like he could be more of a threat than a liability. Why would the Spurs move Boris Diaw from a 4 to a 1 or Kyle Anderson from a 1 to a 4? There's no precedent for that, but you just have to find what works... Fluidity and creativity, that's what I'm trying to get at here.

Well...it's pointless for me to debate someone who insists on debating against a STRAW MAN...which is what you're doing now.

I've said NOTHING about playing guys out of position. In fact, I argued vehemently against an "out of position penalty" when it was suggested for 2K16.

I also argued that playing LeBron at PG was NOT cheese.

That's because those make BASKETBALL sense....yours does NOT.

If you want your BEST defender to cover the opposing PG, then set that in Matchups.

The situations you mention all are VERY different than playing John Wall at the 3...especially when you have Pippen.

It's clear the ONLY reason you're doing it is to EXPLOIT loopholes in 2K gameplay.

Like I said, if you were playing Isiah Thomas and Bledsoe (or a similar combo) with Wall at the 3...that's completely different.

But...the ONLY reason to play Wall at the 3 with your lineup is to CHEESE fast breaks with him and CHEESE mismatches with him in the half court against slower defenders who you can simply TURBO past with no actual SKILL.

Sorry, but to me, this is nothing but cheese...and rather weak cheese at that.

It's just one man's opinion though...

[2kNerd]

Re: Taking budget baller to another level

I really like the TBT Gerald Wallace. His 3 ball is on point and he is an excellent defender. Also he has 80+ speed and acceleration too!

TBT Caron Butler like synistr mentioned earlier is one of my favourite silver cards in the game. I usually slap +9 O consistency shoes on him and it helps him get that 3 ball to drop more. His defense and slashing is excellent and he always seems to be in the right spots.

Good luck in seed 4 !

Gerald is a really nice card. You can even play him as a 4, like the Bobcats did that season. He has a Def Reb rating in the 80s....like 83, I think.

Once you get his release down, he cans 3's all day....and he's an athletic finisher and defender.

My card has Gold PLD added to it for an even bigger boost on defense.

[lowsingles]

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Well...it's pointless for me to debate someone who insists on debating against a STRAW MAN...which is what you're doing now.

I've said NOTHING about playing guys out of position. In fact, I argued vehemently against an "out of position penalty" when it was suggested for 2K16.

I also argued that playing LeBron at PG was NOT cheese.

That's because those make BASKETBALL sense....yours does NOT.

If you want your BEST defender to cover the opposing PG, then set that in Matchups.

The situations you mention all are VERY different than playing John Wall at the 3...especially when you have Pippen.

It's clear the ONLY reason you're doing it is to EXPLOIT loopholes in 2K gameplay.

Like I said, if you were playing Isiah Thomas and Bledsoe (or a similar combo) with Wall at the 3...that's completely different.

But...the ONLY reason to play Wall at the 3 with your lineup is to CHEESE fast breaks with him and CHEESE mismatches with him in the half court against slower defenders who you can simply TURBO past with no actual SKILL.

Sorry, but to me, this is nothing but cheese...and rather weak cheese at that.

It's just one man's opinion though...

I respect your debate, but you literally just ignored every single point I just made. I play roles not positions, when I go to the campus Rec center people don't declare themselves SF, SG, etc but instead play a role. I believe in a big physical player being at the point of attack and faster wings. I'm not trying to exploit any loophole. You must know as well that defensive match ups are extremely unreliable and change frequently for no reason when set in game, but if I start him at point this doesn't happen, and you also ignored my argument on why wall is at 3 instead of 2... It wasn't meant to be a flip-flop. You keep using caps, making assumptions, and challenging my skill level which isn't cool. Nowhere was it mentioned that I turbo around people with wall or abuse that. That's an illogical assumption, because if that were my "cheese" I'd play him more than 9 minutes a game and have other players to abuse turbo with. Most people use lebron or kawhi at small forward anyways, so how exactly would I go about this? Next, why are you knocking my methods without trying them, and finally why are you so attached to this idea of "positions"? Has the new landscape of basketball not dawned to you yet? I understand that you say you're not against players out of position but that is what I'm gathering here. I pay zero attention to positions; I play my most effective lineup, but apparently thinking outside of the box is cheating. We beg for depth, but then we crucify each other for going outside of the box, I just don't see the point. Why are you saying I have no skill it you've never seen me play? 24-0 with this lineup isn't bad, and I've had success in all other modes (excluding myGM) as well. That's unfair to me. I'd love for you to play me actually and if you won I'd fix my line-up. I'm not being rude either, it'll just prove that your way actually is the logical basketball way and I'll adapt to make my team better. You can use your recycled lineup I see on here everyday and I'll use this lineup.

[Biaxident]

Re: Taking budget baller to another level

Picked up 6MOTY Cliff Robinson the other day for 1.1k bid. Added d crasher, eraser. He's a poor man's Dynamic Draymond.

[synistr]

Re: Taking budget baller to another level

Picked up 6MOTY Cliff Robinson the other day for 1.1k bid. Added d crasher, eraser. He's a poor man's Dynamic Draymond.

yep, I have him. he is also is the highest rated/most attributes silver in the game currently. has more attributes than a lot of golds.

sn: thought this was funny

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/14621057/cliff-robinson-open-marijuana-business-called-uncle-spliffy

[2kNerd]

Re: Taking budget baller to another level

I respect your debate, but you literally just ignored every single point I just made. I play roles not positions, when I go to the campus Rec center people don't declare themselves SF, SG, etc but instead play a role. I believe in a big physical player being at the point of attack and faster wings. I'm not trying to exploit any loophole. You must know as well that defensive match ups are extremely unreliable and change frequently for no reason when set in game, but if I start him at point this doesn't happen, and you also ignored my argument on why wall is at 3 instead of 2... It wasn't meant to be a flip-flop. You keep using caps, making assumptions, and challenging my skill level which isn't cool. Nowhere was it mentioned that I turbo around people with wall or abuse that. That's an illogical assumption, because if that were my "cheese" I'd play him more than 9 minutes a game and have other players to abuse turbo with. Most people use lebron or kawhi at small forward anyways, so how exactly would I go about this? Next, why are you knocking my methods without trying them, and finally why are you so attached to this idea of "positions"? Has the new landscape of basketball not dawned to you yet? I understand that you say you're not against players out of position but that is what I'm gathering here. I pay zero attention to positions; I play my most effective lineup, but apparently thinking outside of the box is cheating. We beg for depth, but then we crucify each other for going outside of the box, I just don't see the point. Why are you saying I have no skill it you've never seen me play? 24-0 with this lineup isn't bad, and I've had success in all other modes (excluding myGM) as well. That's unfair to me. I'd love for you to play me actually and if you won I'd fix my line-up. I'm not being rude either, it'll just prove that your way actually is the logical basketball way and I'll adapt to make my team better. You can use your recycled lineup I see on here everyday and I'll use this lineup.

LOL...mix in a paragraph break there, chief. Nothing like trying to read a big BLOCK of text.

I'm not missing any of your points...and I'm not attached to 'positions'. Go and read some of my old posts regarding this.

You can try to 'spin' it any way you want. But I've been a basketball addict for almost 30 years and a 2K nerd for over a decade...and I know 'cheese' when I see it.

There is almost ZERO basketball logic to what you're doing...especially when Pippen can just as easily bring the ball up the court, even in 2K.

If you're 24-0 with this lineup, then I'm even MORE positive you're using it just to CHEESE...which is FINE, I don't care - but I'm gonna call you out for it.


As for me, I play with players and lineups virtually NO ONE else does...so if that's your retort....you're barking up the wrong tree.

My most updated lineup...


Beverley - Artest - Battier - TBT Kirilenko - DPOY Wallace

Bench - Ron Harper - Nate McMillan - KJ McDaniels - TBT Diaw - Silver Alonzo Mourning



I'd hardly call it recycled...and most of my lineup is heavily badged up...even the Silver players. I tend to stick with the same guys and rarely include the most POPULAR players.

When I run into other Sim players in MyTeam, I often get compliments on my rosters...for what it's worth.

Like I said, you're barking up the wrong tree if you think I'm some guy debating about positions. I'm all for 'position-less' basketball. I just don't think your so-called "strategy" is anything more than 2K 'cheese'. Because no one would use it outside of 2K on a real basketball court.

If I had to guess, playing you would be MISERABLE for me...with that lineup I'm guessing there is a TON of heaving the ball up the court blindly like a hot potato to ultra FAST guys like Wall for easy fast break buckets. Like I said, a loophole that will only work in 2K.

And totally just my opinion...

[2kNerd]

Re: Taking budget baller to another level

yep, I have him. he is also is the highest rated/most attributes silver in the game currently. has more attributes than a lot of golds.

sn: thought this was funny

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bask...-uncle-spliffy

Haha...it's funny you mention that. I almost added Cliff to my collection yesterday after I read that article.

I was thinking of putting a team together of just guys who like to blaze up.

[Ichi]

Re: Taking budget baller to another level

Thanks for all the advices. I'm definitely picking up Gerald Wallace.

Looking into Cliff Robinson and Caron Butler, and they look good. I'll give them a try if I find them for cheap.

I really liked Wesley Matthews last year, so, the same applies. If I find him for cheap, I'll pick him up.

What Badges should I add to AK?

[lowsingles]

Re: Taking budget baller to another level

LOL...mix in a paragraph break there, chief. Nothing like trying to read a big BLOCK of text.

I'm not missing any of your points...and I'm not attached to 'positions'. Go and read some of my old posts regarding this.

You can try to 'spin' it any way you want. But I've been a basketball addict for almost 30 years and a 2K nerd for over a decade...and I know 'cheese' when I see it.

There is almost ZERO basketball logic to what you're doing...especially when Pippen can just as easily bring the ball up the court, even in 2K.

If you're 24-0 with this lineup, then I'm even MORE positive you're using it just to CHEESE...which is FINE, I don't care - but I'm gonna call you out for it.


As for me, I play with players and lineups virtually NO ONE else does...so if that's your retort....you're barking up the wrong tree.

My most updated lineup...


Beverley - Artest - Battier - TBT Kirilenko - DPOY Wallace

Bench - Ron Harper - Nate McMillan - KJ McDaniels - TBT Diaw - Silver Alonzo Mourning



I'd hardly call it recycled...and most of my lineup is heavily badged up...even the Silver players. I tend to stick with the same guys and rarely include the most POPULAR players.

When I run into other Sim players in MyTeam, I often get compliments on my rosters...for what it's worth.

Like I said, you're barking up the wrong tree if you think I'm some guy debating about positions. I'm all for 'position-less' basketball. I just don't think your so-called "strategy" is anything more than 2K 'cheese'. Because no one would use it outside of 2K on a real basketball court.

If I had to guess, playing you would be MISERABLE for me...with that lineup I'm guessing there is a TON of heaving the ball up the court blindly like a hot potato to ultra FAST guys like Wall for easy fast break buckets. Like I said, a loophole that will only work in 2K.

And totally just my opinion...

I apologize first off, because I had your lineup confused with someone elses. You do have a unique lineup that I admire. Just because I win doesn't mean I cheese. With this lineup? John wall is my only fast player, except for Elgin at power forward.

I don't like how you didn't address any of the points I made, however, about my style and instead resorted to throwing out cheese every other word and spamming caps instead of making a point.

I will play you with sim rules, I don't mind at all.