NBA 2K15 Fictional Draft Classes by CWSapp757/Dreece/Blindside for XBOX One

[CWSapp757]

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Yeah I basically read over news strories until I find the first one that makes me say WTF lol. Sorry you don't like them man but really happy to hear you like the podcast!

[redsox4evur]

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Yeah I basically read over news strories until I find the first one that makes me say WTF lol. Sorry you don't like them man but really happy to hear you like the podcast!

No I think they are hilarious I just wanted to know how you go about finding them because some of them are so far out there.

BTW: here is a thread to help you!!! http://www.operationsports.com/forum...u-say-wtf.html

[darkwolf80]

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I'm pretty amazed that you guys haven't burnt out before now. Editing on a console is a pita. I love the classes and can't tell you how much more time I have spent playing 2k cause of them.

I would have to agree with what I have seen so far, that the monthly stories are a big part of the relationships we get with these players. I know you need to cut something, but to me the stories would be 75% of what makes these classes unique and interesting to play with. I would be willing to live with a much pared down scouting report to help you guys move along faster and have time to enjoy the game yourself.

I also think instead of worrying about editing all 150 players just stick to a top 70 or so. I know you guys pride yourself on checking every box and doing things right. And I do appreciate that in this time and age of instant gratification, but I would say a lot of the work you spend on some of the lower tier guys goes wasted as they probably don't get played at all. If it saves you time and allows you to still get things out, I for one wouldn't hold it against you. And if someone does then to heck with them.

On the scouting report I love it all, but if I had to choose: The big board, the help me fill a need, the position grade page, and who's next are most important.

Then on each players page maybe the graph could be cut out? I did like the bar graph versus the line graph comparing their stats to pos and class avg.
I also liked the early days of the 2k14 player reports where instead of listing their ranks for certain abilities like #1 shooter, #3 shooter on the move, you would write just a little paragraph or sentence about the player.

I can only imagine that making just the player pages can take a huge chunk of time. I would even be fine without the player pics. lol

Overall, it's all awesome, but I am def ok with losing some stuff so you guys can enjoy the game more yourself, and we still get classes to go on with.

I just really don't want to rely on 2k draft classes and going back to picking players I have no idea who they are or what their story is.

Just my two cents.

[sawilson1]

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I agree with everything Darkwolf80 says above....

[CWSapp757]

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Wow darkwolf, thanks so much for being as detailed as you were. I am actually glad you mentioned the player photos because I have one more question before me and Dreece have this final talk and determine what we are going to do?

Where does everyone else stand on the pictures for the scouting report. On a scale of 1 to 10 how much does it mean to your enjoyment of the scouting report?

[LilT360]

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I think I could survive without the pictures

[LilT360]

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So it would be about a 5 or 6

[redsox4evur]

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Wow darkwolf, thanks so much for being as detailed as you were. I am actually glad you mentioned the player photos because I have one more question before me and Dreece have this final talk and determine what we are going to do?

Where does everyone else stand on the pictures for the scouting report. On a scale of 1 to 10 how much does it mean to your enjoyment of the scouting report?

I'll go 5. I wouldn't mind if they weren't there. But like Darkwolf said, I did like the top ranks for categories, ala Dre Redd is the top rebounder in his class. I wouldn't mind seeing not seeing the graphs comparing players to the positional avg.

The only thing I disagree with Darkwolf about is cutting down to the top 70 players. These classes prior to the edits are so bad that everyone needs to get changed. Especially the tendencies, you could have a big man who has a 99 3pt TENDENCY but his 3pt RATING is only a 25. And you never know if that guy is going to drafted or not unless you are using 30 team control. So keep editing the 150 or so players, please.

[CWSapp757]

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I am really glad I am having this discussion with you guys and I honestly feel like I should have done it a while ago. I understand what everyone is saying and think it is important that we come to a middle ground. After talking to Dreece this is what we have decided to do to increase the speed of the classes:

- The monthly news feeds were going to go away but after listening to you guys I have decided to keep those.

- The scouting reports will stay but with some pretty big changes. School logos will only be on the player profile pages and not on all of the other pages (Fill A Need, Who's Next etc.). Player photos will no longer be included in the scouting report. Also a few other changes will be made to the scouting report but I want to save that for later this week when I send them out because I think you guys might like it.

- Most importantly, there WILL be some changes to the way we approach players but it won't be as drastic as you think. For starters, I can't leave 2K generated players in my classes because it just doesn't feel right so all 150 players will be fully edited ratings wise. As far as tendencies go however, Dreece puts a TON of work into each player. Sometimes he goes back and changes things 5 or 6 times for one player just to make them play the right way. We are going to eliminate that level of detail for some of the bottom feeders but for people like redsox who can't stand the busted tendencies, we WILL make edits to some of the more important tendencies for ALL players.


So there you have it guys. The changes that have been put in place are there solely to get these classes to you guys faster. Oh yeah, and National Championship results coming today as well.

[redsox4evur]

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I am really glad I am having this discussion with you guys and I honestly feel like I should have done it a while ago. I understand what everyone is saying and think it is important that we come to a middle ground. After talking to Dreece this is what we have decided to do to increase the speed of the classes:

- The monthly news feeds were going to go away but after listening to you guys I have decided to keep those.

- The scouting reports will stay but with some pretty big changes. School logos will only be on the player profile pages and not on all of the other pages (Fill A Need, Who's Next etc.). Player photos will no longer be included in the scouting report. Also a few other changes will be made to the scouting report but I want to save that for later this week when I send them out because I think you guys might like it.

- Most importantly, there WILL be some changes to the way we approach players but it won't be as drastic as you think. For starters, I can't leave 2K generated players in my classes because it just doesn't feel right so all 150 players will be fully edited ratings wise. As far as tendencies go however, Dreece puts a TON of work into each player. Sometimes he goes back and changes things 5 or 6 times for one player just to make them play the right way. We are going to eliminate that level of detail for some of the bottom feeders but for people like redsox who can't stand the busted tendencies, we WILL make edits to some of the more important tendencies for ALL players.


So there you have it guys. The changes that have been put in place are there solely to get these classes to you guys faster. Oh yeah, and National Championship results coming today as well.

So Dreece, around what number will you stop changing all tendencies 70, 100. Because like I said I don't want one of these guys to end up getting drafted by the CPU. I personally would think 100 would be good enough, but obviously this your choice.

[Dreece]

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So Dreece, around what number will you stop changing all tendencies 70, 100. Because like I said I don't want one of these guys to end up getting drafted by the CPU. I personally would think 100 would be good enough, but obviously this your choice.

Gonna be like 80-100 bro. Already told Sapp ANY guy that has a chance to be a UNDRAFTED FA I will do those tendencies. I run A LOT of simulations during my editing period so I WILL know who will get drafted. All players will still have animations done and low ranked specialist(ie Julian Beck from 2k14) would have his tendencies done because he has a chance to make some noise.

All play types will be done, all gear will be fixed(no funny looking accessory combos), models will be slightly touched because I hate mutants lol. We're scaling back the work BUT the quality will stay the same.

[darkwolf80]

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All play types will be done, all gear will be fixed(no funny looking accessory combos), models will be slightly touched because I hate mutants lol. We're scaling back the work BUT the quality will stay the same.

Like you guys could do it any other way!! It's the quality of the work that makes these drafts!

[miz468]

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I'm in full support of whatever you guys want to do. I'm just thankful to have these classes in any form. I literally would not play this game without them.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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Not sure if this has been asked because I didn't find anything when I searched this thread for it, but has anyone by chance converted these draft classes to the PS4?

[CWSapp757]

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Not sure if this has been asked because I didn't find anything when I searched this thread for it, but has anyone by chance converted these draft classes to the PS4?

Unfortunately not. We miss you homie! Hope all is well.










NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP


1) Temple (32 – 1) 75
2) Texas (29 – 4) 67

Temple: Fr. Forward Aaiden Blackshear – 21 points, 13 rebounds, 2 assists, 3 blocks
Temple: Fr. Guard Daryll Waters – 15 points, 2 rebounds, 5 assists
Temple: Fr. Forward Avon Blackshear – 15 points, 8 rebounds
Temple: So. Guard Demi Welch – 8 points, 2 assists, 2 steals
Temple: Sr. Center Trey Forrest – 8 points, 5 rebounds


Texas: Fr. Guard J.R. Stafford– 18 points, 3 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 steal
Texas: Fr. Forward Derrick Long – 15 points, 10 rebounds, 4 blocks
Texas: Fr. Guard Shakim Green – 10 points, 4 assists
Texas: Fr. Center Asten Garrick – 10 points, 8 rebounds
Texas: So. Forward Guy Francis – 7 points, 5 rebounds








Congratulations to the Temple Owls on winning the National Championship and congrats to the individuals that guessed it correctly. Now, it is grind time. Me and Dreece are hard at work and with the new changes, we plan to have this class out in the next four days or maybe earlier.