NBA 2k15 team play book thread

[Smirkin Dirk]

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I'll work on blazers. I havnt tested anybody as far as in game so these playbooks will change which is why they are rough drafts. They need to be tested in game, then replace any bad plays I see if any, then replace with better action. The biggest problem is 1- playbooks need to be reordered I'm thinking badly. 2- player tendencies as far as touches, shot attempts, triple threat shots, 3pt shots, all shots really need to be upped and looked at for a lot of players. It's immediate difference if you go in and edit this and then go play another game. Your like wow ok I see it now. It just needs to be balanced and tested.

Another factor that we don't know in not watching your games is maybe you play bad perimeter defense in giving up so many shot attempts to guards and top that with maybe containing Aldridge with good defense and maybe his shot contest shooting is lie so he defers? So many factors that without seeing we have no idea.

Stream a game and I'll watch it but let me tweak a but 1st.

Yep these are all potential factors. I can never get a stream to work, but I will keep playing with things.

Im not just trying to contribute a small amount to all the work you're doing. It's staggering.

Quick question- do you test in game, or in scrimmage?

[vtcrb]

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Interesting.

I just played a full game against the Balzers with their POE set to play through star. LMA went 6/12. A few mid ranges, couple of PNPs. It wasnt overpoweringly good, but it was better.

Blake got 14 attempts, Matthews 15. That is disappointing.

Individual Player Tendencies Need to be Edited too. I am having some Great Results with Editing Player Tendencies to go along with VANN's Playbooks.

[Smirkin Dirk]

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Individual Player Tendencies Need to be Edited too. I am having some Great Results with Editing Player Tendencies to go along with VANN's Playbooks.

Yep, Ive just had a look.

LMA's fadeaway tendency is 40, and Lillard's pull up 3 is 30. These are bad.

[vannwolfhawk]

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Yep, Ive just had a look.

LMA's fadeaway tendency is 40, and Lillard's pull up 3 is 30. These are bad.

Actually I just looked at Lamarcus Aldridge and he wasn't to bad. That fadeaway tendency isn't bad because you need to look at it compared to his step acl jumper which he uses more often. It doesn't really matter what the number is as it could be 10, hook shot could be 5, and step back 15. It doesn't matter because all that means is he will use the step back jumper more so than the fadeaway and he will use the fadeaway more often than the hook shot, etc. I actually upped his triple threat and contested shots a bit to see if that makes him more aggressive being closely guarded.

I was surprised to see shot ratings so high after your post. Are you using any sliders? CPU tendencies need to be adjusted on sliders as they can't be all 50 for everything if you want realism.

I just played grizzlies and man were they fun to play against! They ran everything at me and were going to town to zbo and gasol, killing me with horns sets and pnp with zbo as well. I did notice CPU had success running a PNR play against me with gasol and Conley found him on a nice bounce pass for a Latin on the roll by gasol. The great part is they went to the same play next time down the floor but I contained it this time. They ran it seemed like 30-40 plays against me. I upped zbo touches a bit and pop vs roll slightly. It's all tweaking the game to get each team to play more realisticly but I loved grizzlies play style from a playbook standpoint. Someone else test and Let me know what you guys see against them...

I should also note CPU was hitting roll man and pop when I got stretched out...

[Stevenson92]

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Played with the mavs against the blazers. 12 minutes quarters with my sliders but your tendencies. PoE =play through the star

It was a veery offensive game. We both shot around 55% .Lillard ended up with 13-23. Aldridge with 8-15. Batum 10-16. They took 15 3 pointers. In the first quarters they ran thier offense only through lillard. But with the start of the second quarter Aldridge got a lot of touches. They used Aldridge often in pnp and post ups. So very realistic for me.thank you

For me it was a great game . But Do you guys have the same problem that all starters play through the whole forth quarter?

[Smirkin Dirk]

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I was surprised to see shot ratings so high after your post. Are you using any sliders? CPU tendencies need to be adjusted on sliders as they can't be all 50 for everything if you want realism.

Are these the adjusted tendencies you are using?

post feed at 60
3pt 99
mid 55
close 45
inside 42
attack basket at 45.

Someone else test and Let me know what you guys see against them...

Happy to. Will post results soon.

[Smirkin Dirk]

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Just had a really fun game against the Grizz. Firstly they smashed me on my offensive end of the floor. I turned it over 27 times, when I havent exceeded 17 in any other game. I scored 75 and shot 41%. Good stuff.

On their end, Conley put up 19 FGs. A tad high, but my guards are poor defedners.

Randolph went 7/16 on an array of stuff. Gasol put up 10 FGs. Only 1 came on a putback. It definitely felt like Memphis. Some of their action was really good. Great job.

Still would like to see Gasol facilitating out of the post more with guards buzzing around.

I wonder if its a case of increasing his touches and decreasing Conley and Lee. Ill try tomorrow,

[STLRams]

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I played against the Golden state warriors with Vann's slider setttings and his playbook edits.... Just a beautiful game to watch and play. The Warriors offense was fast hitting and deadly, a lot of off ball movement, lots of screens and the offense constantly looked to Curry and Klay to score. If both were on the bench or one of them, the CPU offense get other players involved also. They ended up beating me by 15 points, I honestly couldn't keep up with there offense, but it was a great game.

[cam21224]

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PS4 users - Spurs - Clippers playbooks are up on the share.

PSN ID= cam21224

Edit: Spurs - Lakers playbooks are up, also made the Zbo tendency changes Vann posted.

I'll finish the last 6 after the football game or early tomorrow.

[vannwolfhawk]

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All teams play books and play types are now up on the OP.

Real quick point I want to make, when inputting or checking these play types out you might see some weird things like D. Howard having 3rd play type as high post. Go and look at the Rockets high post plays I assigned them. They have 3 and all plays really are great plays with D. Howard catching in mid to low block and I didn't want to not have these 3 great plays in their playbook for them when its getting him in spot he wants the ball anyways. So, my point is even if you see some weird things like that it was all thought out. Same go's for cutter play types as if you look at pistons they have 3 bigs J. Smith, G. Monroe, and A. Drummond with cutter play types but if you look at the cutters in pistons play books they are screens and alley pop plays for back door lobs, etc. So, before complaining please go look at the plays involved in the actual playbook as well and not just judge the play types assigned.

That being said there are mistakes I am sure I have made. I am already seeing some things I want to change with a few teams after testing. 1 being i have noticed a elbow play with grizzlies that they won't make the entry pass. Now note this could be because I am sagging off as the entry point is 4-5 feet behind the 3pt line so I don't go guard that and I can see the elbow and what the cpu ids trying to do so maybe this is my defense but I am sure all of you would play the same way so maybe best to eliminate it. Things like maybe putting L. Aldridge (or a few select others) with a low post up before the high post might be better to get him more touches and shots on the block. So, I might be changing this. The reason really why I had him with high post was because when I play with Blazers I like his high post plays listed 1st in his playbook. Feel free to change this on your own and I will adjust in main page. Id do the same with anyone like that.

I also have found some plays and will be redoing 5-10 plays in Blazers book. I'll try and make changes in red or with a date by it when editing so you guys know what and when to change something. Anyways, hope you like them but they are far from finished but its a great start! The hard part is done now the fun part begins!!!

[vtcrb]

Re: NBA 2k15 team play book thread

All teams play books and play types are now up on the OP.

Real quick point I want to make, when inputting or checking these play types out you might see some weird things like D. Howard having 3rd play type as high post. Go and look at the Rockets high post plays I assigned them. They have 3 and all plays really are great plays with D. Howard catching in mid to low block and I didn't want to not have these 3 great plays in their playbook for them when its getting him in spot he wants the ball anyways. So, my point is even if you see some weird things like that it was all thought out. Same go's for cutter play types as if you look at pistons they have 3 bigs J. Smith, G. Monroe, and A. Drummond with cutter play types but if you look at the cutters in pistons play books they are screens and alley pop plays for back door lobs, etc. So, before complaining please go look at the plays involved in the actual playbook as well and not just judge the play types assigned.

That being said there are mistakes I am sure I have made. I am already seeing some things I want to change with a few teams after testing. 1 being i have noticed a elbow play with grizzlies that they won't make the entry pass. Now note this could be because I am sagging off as the entry point is 4-5 feet behind the 3pt line so I don't go guard that and I can see the elbow and what the cpu ids trying to do so maybe this is my defense but I am sure all of you would play the same way so maybe best to eliminate it. Things like maybe putting L. Aldridge (or a few select others) with a low post up before the high post might be better to get him more touches and shots on the block. So, I might be changing this. The reason really why I had him with high post was because when I play with Blazers I like his high post plays listed 1st in his playbook. Feel free to change this on your own and I will adjust in main page. Id do the same with anyone like that.

I also have found some plays and will be redoing 5-10 plays in Blazers book. I'll try and make changes in red or with a date by it when editing so you guys know what and when to change something. Anyways, hope you like them but they are far from finished but its a great start! The hard part is done now the fun part begins!!!

GREAT JOB Buddy!!!!! Your work ethic is Unbelievable. It is GREATLY Appreciated.

[vannwolfhawk]

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Are these the adjusted tendencies you are using?

post feed at 60
3pt 99
mid 55
close 45
inside 42
attack basket at 45.

Yes this is currently how i have it set except i bumped inside to 43 and attack basket i believe is at 44 now.

as far as grizzlies I agree with more action to Gasol with cutters! I think I need to switch plays around a bit but i did toy with gasol's touhes, and zoo's touches as well. Try the new roster update and tell me what you see now. I see a HUGE difference. Except plays still need to be rearranged.

Also, quick note to anyone who cares or is editing, going to zbo's triple threat and up his jab and pump fake tendencies. I put both near 70 with pump fake taking the precedent and also upped his take contest shot. He now plays and looks like ZBO on the court with all his fidgeting with up fakes and jabs trying to create a bit of space and tie that in with a tad higher take shots he is a monster now. Try it and Let me know... I don't do rosters (make my own adjustments after roster guys do their thing) but I know players and I know basketball. Out of the box Zbo was no Zbo! LOL He needs these moves, actually i think a ton of players should have higher shot fakes ala tim duncan, zbo, etc within their triple threat as thats real life. watch a game and tell me you don't see 100 shot fakes a game to create a bit of separation in seeing what defender does in reacting to it either allowing for a shot or drive after the pump fake. Also, and this is a bit of a tangent here but i did this years ago in making the basic crossover the highest move for anyone on the court. This should be number 1 on everyones moves list. it translates so beautifully when players just use the basic crossover and get rid of all the and 1 moves imo! Im not saying guys like D Rose or Jamal Crawford shouldn't have other moves but the most basic dribbling move you see in every play is the change of direction with a dribbler with a basic crossover. All these ugly moves and animations ruin the immersion when you see guys spinning to the hoop and stuck in warping with defense and out of control. These 2 simple edits make gameplay SOOOO much better! I will say this I LOVE how the cpu PG is constantly moving while running a play and i like their little step back hesi's so you can't lock in and steal the ball. This was on my wish list like 4 years ago and its great because i don't know if cpu is trying to drive or run a play so i am locked in to him now where before the cpu would stand still while I swipe at the ball but watch whats going on off ball and read the play which isn't realistic. Great job here 2k! Anyone notice this?

Anyways,

END editing rant now! LOL Sorry! HAHA

[Agame]

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Thanks again.

Something I am seeing ( ok I think I'm seeing it ) when I moved GamePlay Speed to 55 more plays were ran to fruition. Something you may want to test yourself but I'm keeping it because it's working for me. ( or I think it is).

will play Pacers vrs Grizzlies tonight

[vtcrb]

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Yes this is currently how i have it set except i bumped inside to 43 and attack basket i believe is at 44 now.

as far as grizzlies I agree with more action to Gasol with cutters! I think I need to switch plays around a bit but i did toy with gasol's touhes, and zoo's touches as well. Try the new roster update and tell me what you see now. I see a HUGE difference. Except plays still need to be rearranged.

Also, quick note to anyone who cares or is editing, going to zbo's triple threat and up his jab and pump fake tendencies. I put both near 70 with pump fake taking the precedent and also upped his take contest shot. He now plays and looks like ZBO on the court with all his fidgeting with up fakes and jabs trying to create a bit of space and tie that in with a tad higher take shots he is a monster now. Try it and Let me know... I don't do rosters (make my own adjustments after roster guys do their thing) but I know players and I know basketball. Out of the box Zbo was no Zbo! LOL He needs these moves, actually i think a ton of players should have higher shot fakes ala tim duncan, zbo, etc within their triple threat as thats real life. watch a game and tell me you don't see 100 shot fakes a game to create a bit of separation in seeing what defender does in reacting to it either allowing for a shot or drive after the pump fake. Also, and this is a bit of a tangent here but i did this years ago in making the basic crossover the highest move for anyone on the court. This should be number 1 on everyones moves list. it translates so beautifully when players just use the basic crossover and get rid of all the and 1 moves imo! Im not saying guys like D Rose or Jamal Crawford shouldn't have other moves but the most basic dribbling move you see in every play is the change of direction with a dribbler with a basic crossover. All these ugly moves and animations ruin the immersion when you see guys spinning to the hoop and stuck in warping with defense and out of control. These 2 simple edits make gameplay SOOOO much better! I will say this I LOVE how the cpu PG is constantly moving while running a play and i like their little step back hesi's so you can't lock in and steal the ball. This was on my wish list like 4 years ago and its great because i don't know if cpu is trying to drive or run a play so i am locked in to him now where before the cpu would stand still while I swipe at the ball but watch whats going on off ball and read the play which isn't realistic. Great job here 2k! Anyone notice this?

Anyways,

END editing rant now! LOL Sorry! HAHA

All of the And1 Dribble Moves I think are designed for all of the Gimmick Modes. Park, etc, so guys can do all of the moves on their opponents. It has drove me nuts for years. They cut down on the Player's actual movement in the game.

[vannwolfhawk]

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All of the And1 Dribble Moves I think are designed for all of the Gimmick Modes. Park, etc, so guys can do all of the moves on their opponents. It has drove me nuts for years. They cut down on the Player's actual movement in the game.

I agree. I get why they have them in but I hate it. To bad they can't release 2 rosters, a sim roster, and straight AND! cheese roster for the young ins! LOL

Chia - aka jasonwilliams55 and dc (i believe in 2k10???) did some great dribbling edits and its stuck with me. I want to say they had each top move starting with basic cross at 25 then they went down 20-15-10-5-0 in order of moves. The funny thing is the simple crossover move in the game not only looks way better but its even harder to defend with a guy like D. Rose.