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  • dweeks82
    Rookie
    • Mar 2015
    • 184

    #76
    Re: Full 2016 Draft Class w/Accurate Faces+Ratings (PS4)

    Originally posted by RocketsFan1993
    I don't think EmbraceThaPace updates his draft classes that often. He probably will fix everything once it is almost time for the 2016 draft. Although as a Kentucky fan, I do agree that Skal is playing like garbage, and Levert is Derrick Rose 2.0. Sorry to any Bulls fans.
    Lol he may not update them, but his rating system is garbage. I've seen his updates and he still has players rated way higher than they actually should be. Levert will be LUCKY to be a first round pick, he's injured AGAIN. And he's not athletic anymore. I'm a Michigan State fan and follow Michigan basketball closely, all of college basketball for that matter, so I know quite a bit about his situation. Embrace had a phenomenal draft class for 2k15, but that was because the class was LOADED with surefire prospects. Now that this year's draft only has one or 2 sure thing players, he's struggling and he's over rating players so that you don't have a wasted draft in MyLeague or MyGM which shouldn't be the logic used because there are years where drafts are very weak. Those years are the years you see a lot of teams trading away picks for future draft that they know will be loaded. That's why Boston and Philly have been unloading picks and taking picks for future drafts, why waste a pick in a weak draft when you can get a good pick in a loaded draft? It's just how it works. Our class for this year (teondaddy and I) our class has 1 players rated near 80, Simmons, because he's the only sure thing. Everyone else are players that may become solid players but there really are no players you look at this year and say 'he's a guaranteed future all star' like last year's draft and the year before besides Simmons. Hield MAYBE but he's a bit sketchy for various reasons. I just don't like the whole over rating and then claiming you have the best draft class because of what yours did last year. Especially when you're not even making a full class. He has what, 40 players? We have a full class that we've taken the time to make and adjust throughout the season based on mock drafts, how players have played, and word among NBA scouts about where players are going and what their potential in the league is. We've taken players out and moved them to the 17 class or the other way around as well based on what we think is going to happen. If you don't put that kind of effort into your class, then you're not the best. Embrace has some of the best face and player models I've seen, I'll give him that. But his rating system is bad and his judgement of players is bad. Skal and Levert being so high still only proves my point. Skal is trash, he's not making it in the NBA. He'll be the next Michael Beasley...huge potential possibly but will flame out. He can't even make it at Kentucky where they don't have the huge prospect big men that they've had in recent years, he's not making it in the NBA. Someone will take a 1st round pick on him still based on that potential, but he won't make it. And Levert, he's the next Rose and Oden, career set back or ruined entirely because he can't stay healthy. He has severe leg issues going on and it's plummeting his stock.

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    • EmbraceThePace
      Rookie
      • Sep 2014
      • 300

      #77
      Re: Full 2016 Draft Class w/Accurate Faces+Ratings (PS4)

      Originally posted by dweeks82
      Lol he may not update them, but his rating system is garbage. I've seen his updates and he still has players rated way higher than they actually should be. Levert will be LUCKY to be a first round pick, he's injured AGAIN. And he's not athletic anymore. I'm a Michigan State fan and follow Michigan basketball closely, all of college basketball for that matter, so I know quite a bit about his situation. Embrace had a phenomenal draft class for 2k15, but that was because the class was LOADED with surefire prospects. Now that this year's draft only has one or 2 sure thing players, he's struggling and he's over rating players so that you don't have a wasted draft in MyLeague or MyGM which shouldn't be the logic used because there are years where drafts are very weak. Those years are the years you see a lot of teams trading away picks for future draft that they know will be loaded. That's why Boston and Philly have been unloading picks and taking picks for future drafts, why waste a pick in a weak draft when you can get a good pick in a loaded draft? It's just how it works. Our class for this year (teondaddy and I) our class has 1 players rated near 80, Simmons, because he's the only sure thing. Everyone else are players that may become solid players but there really are no players you look at this year and say 'he's a guaranteed future all star' like last year's draft and the year before besides Simmons. Hield MAYBE but he's a bit sketchy for various reasons. I just don't like the whole over rating and then claiming you have the best draft class because of what yours did last year. Especially when you're not even making a full class. He has what, 40 players? We have a full class that we've taken the time to make and adjust throughout the season based on mock drafts, how players have played, and word among NBA scouts about where players are going and what their potential in the league is. We've taken players out and moved them to the 17 class or the other way around as well based on what we think is going to happen. If you don't put that kind of effort into your class, then you're not the best. Embrace has some of the best face and player models I've seen, I'll give him that. But his rating system is bad and his judgement of players is bad. Skal and Levert being so high still only proves my point. Skal is trash, he's not making it in the NBA. He'll be the next Michael Beasley...huge potential possibly but will flame out. He can't even make it at Kentucky where they don't have the huge prospect big men that they've had in recent years, he's not making it in the NBA. Someone will take a 1st round pick on him still based on that potential, but he won't make it. And Levert, he's the next Rose and Oden, career set back or ruined entirely because he can't stay healthy. He has severe leg issues going on and it's plummeting his stock.

      I want to start off by asking you why you're in this thread attacking my work. You don't have to use my draft classes if you think they're so bad. Go make your own thread and promote your class.

      Also, I don't appreciate you making assumptions and disrespecting my work when you clearly have no knowledge of the process I go through to create these classes. Making idiotic assumptions and saying I don't do research is absolutely ridiculous. Not to mention you blatantly lied several times. You said: "You're also missing SEVERAL first round picks" - I'm missing 2 players on the current 2016 DraftExpress mock (besides a few international guys): Pascal Siakam (#52) and Cat Barber (#57). You said: "He has what, 40 players?" - I have 107 total prospects between my 2 classes including 70 in my 2016 class.

      If you don't like my rating system, that's fine. I think my rating system is fantastic and I know thousands of other people that like it as well. Like I said before, you clearly have no clue how much time and effort I've put into this. Easily over 100 hours on creating players alone. Not to mention the countless hours reading scouting reports and watching film. I don't know anything about your class, but I'd be willing to bet you personally haven't put in close to that much time. And it's not like I'm just randomly assigning ratings to players. ALL of my ratings, potentials, tendencies, badge numbers, etc. are based on position averages of the official 2K roster, real rookies in the game and draft stock. So, again, don't act like a tough guy that thinks he knows more than everyone when you definitely don't.

      I know you typed all that up to try to make my draft class seem bad in an attempt to promote your own. Bottom line, this isn't a competition. I make draft classes to try and make the game more enjoyable for others. I don't have to do it. I'm not getting anything from it. If you want to do the same, go for it, but attacking other people's hard work that they do for free makes you seem immature, conceded and like an overall bad person.
      Creator of the most realistic draft classes on NBA 2K

      Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/embracepace

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      • EmbraceThePace
        Rookie
        • Sep 2014
        • 300

        #78
        Re: Full 2016 Draft Class w/Accurate Faces+Ratings (PS4)

        Originally posted by semyhre12
        Any chance on getting Kevin Punter from Tennessee in the class? He's a senior so he will definitely be eligible for the 2016 Class. He's currently averaging 22.3 ppg (#10 in the nation) as a SG maybe will be a late 2nd-rounder.

        I'd like to get him in at some point, but idk if I will. I haven't seen him on any mock drafts.
        Creator of the most realistic draft classes on NBA 2K

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        • EmbraceThePace
          Rookie
          • Sep 2014
          • 300

          #79
          Re: Full 2016 Draft Class w/Accurate Faces+Ratings (PS4)

          Originally posted by 848
          Finally got it! Disappointed to not see Dejounte Murray in either draft class

          He's in my 2017 class now!
          Creator of the most realistic draft classes on NBA 2K

          Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/embracepace

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          • EmbraceThePace
            Rookie
            • Sep 2014
            • 300

            #80
            Re: Full 2016 Draft Class w/Accurate Faces+Ratings (PS4)

            Originally posted by Zach1099
            Gotta add Dwayne Bacon I haven't seen him yet in there, yet not 100% sure if he is or isn't. He's projected to go late 1st round to the nuggets he's the SG for Florida State.

            He's in my 2017 draft class right now. If he declares this year, I'll switch him over to 2016.
            Creator of the most realistic draft classes on NBA 2K

            Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/embracepace

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            • EmbraceThePace
              Rookie
              • Sep 2014
              • 300

              #81
              Re: Full 2016 Draft Class w/Accurate Faces+Ratings (PS4)

              Originally posted by RocketsFan1993
              I don't think EmbraceThaPace updates his draft classes that often. He probably will fix everything once it is almost time for the 2016 draft. Although as a Kentucky fan, I do agree that Skal is playing like garbage, and Levert is Derrick Rose 2.0. Sorry to any Bulls fans.

              I've been making minor tweaks every week. Haven't had time to revamp ratings that often though. It takes a lot of time. I'm in the process of a full revamp though. Should be available soon.
              Creator of the most realistic draft classes on NBA 2K

              Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/embracepace

              YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/izomniayt

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              • TheShizNo1
                Asst 2 the Comm Manager
                • Mar 2007
                • 26341

                #82
                Re: Full 2016 Draft Class w/Accurate Faces+Ratings (PS4)

                If you don't like the draft classes then there's no reason to post in the thread.

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                **** ya


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                • mshelton6
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 8

                  #83
                  Re: Full 2016 Draft Class w/Accurate Faces+Ratings (PS4)

                  Thank you for your hard work. I really enjoy both.

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                  • mpac
                    Pro
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 656

                    #84
                    Re: Full 2016 Draft Class w/Accurate Faces+Ratings (PS4)

                    Ignore the critics. You still make the best draft classes please don't stop

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                    • saintloue28
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 61

                      #85
                      Re: Full 2016 Draft Class w/Accurate Faces+Ratings (PS4)

                      Thanks Embrace! I've looked at a lot of other draft classes and I find yours the best. Don't sweat the haters. There is a reason you're consistently at the top.

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                      • tetoleetd
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 1151

                        #86
                        Re: Full 2016 Draft Class w/Accurate Faces+Ratings (PS4)

                        Originally posted by TheShizNo1
                        If you don't like the draft classes then there's no reason to post in the thread.

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                        that logic doesnt make sense.

                        there is this thing called free speech that allows us to voice opinions and offer criticism.

                        i can understand the decision to delete posts if they are rude, but to say you simply shouldnt talk if you dont like something is just ignorant.

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                        • heelphreak
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 1022

                          #87
                          Re: Full 2016 Draft Class w/Accurate Faces+Ratings (PS4)

                          It's not ignorant it's the golden rule. I think the point is that there's no value in being rude to people on this site, especially those who invest a considerable amount of time in making the game better for everyone with no expectation for compensation. It's common decency.
                          The first amendment protects U.S. citizens from the government making a law that prohibits free speech(among other things. ) It doesn't apply to privately owned message boards. Your comments can be edited or you could be banned without your "free speech" being violated in any way.

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                          • tetoleetd
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 1151

                            #88
                            Re: Full 2016 Draft Class w/Accurate Faces+Ratings (PS4)

                            Originally posted by heelphreak
                            It's not ignorant it's the golden rule. I think the point is that there's no value in being rude to people on this site, especially those who invest a considerable amount of time in making the game better for everyone with no expectation for compensation. It's common decency.
                            The first amendment protects U.S. citizens from the government making a law that prohibits free speech(among other things. ) It doesn't apply to privately owned message boards. Your comments can be edited or you could be banned without your "free speech" being violated in any way.

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                            read my post again.

                            i clearly said its okay to delete a post if it is rude. but to say you simply shouldnt speak if you dont like something IS ignorant.

                            for example, if someone made a roster and you didnt like something about it, you should be able to post in that thread and say "hey i dont like this aspect of what you did here, you might wanna look into changing it". that is called constructive criticism, and that can only come if people speak up when they dont like something.

                            im basically saying that nothing ever changes for the better if people dont speak up when something is wrong.
                            Last edited by tetoleetd; 03-09-2016, 04:29 PM.

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                            • kdhello
                              Rookie
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 50

                              #89
                              Re: Full 2016 Draft Class w/Accurate Faces+Ratings (PS4)

                              Hey ETP, could you let us know who the lowest rated player in 2017 class is?
                              I'd like to tell where the real players end and 2K-generated players begin in the list if sorted by overall rating.
                              Thanks.

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                              • kp504
                                Rookie
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 78

                                #90
                                Re: Full 2016 Draft Class w/Accurate Faces+Ratings (PS4)

                                Yo Etp,,,, I was looking at ya roster and you seem like you pay close attention to detail,,, I know it's kinda late to tell you this but,,, you have a lot of guys with high lateral quickness,,, that's just for defense,,, basically u can't have 60 for on ball defense and 80 for lateral quickness,,,,, just because a player is fast doesn't mean his lateral quickness has to be that way,,, cuz it's just defensively. No disrespect to to ya work because its amazing,,, just letting u know u though

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