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  • Barncore
    Formerly known as Barnsey
    • Aug 2003
    • 1337

    #1

    I've simmed up to 2025 using draft classes from OS. Here's how the landscape looks

    I've been enjoying a MyLEAGUE mode for the past month that has gotten pretty deep. I have used a lot of fictional draft classes from this community and have been happy with the results, so i thought i'd share. I'm currently in the 2025 playoffs, and will continue sharing how things unfold in this thread, so if you have any questions about how a player from your draft class is going then please ask!

    Please note that i often play god and interfere with various things. I.e. every year i give a couple of players a sharp breakout. E.g. i turned Derrick Jones from a bench player to a good "glue guy" starter rated 84 ovr or something. Stuff like that. I also had to turn some players from 85 ovr guys into 90 ovr guys so the league had more superstars. E.g. DeAndre Ayton and RJ Barrett.

    Here's the draft classes i used:
    2017: 2017 (by EmbraceThaPace i believe, with some slight edits on my behalf)
    2018: 2018 (same as above)
    2019: 2019 (don't remember who made the base, sorry)
    2020: FDU 1
    2021: FDU 2
    2022: JazzMan #1
    2023: JazzMan #2
    2024: MarvellousOne DC 1
    2025: FDU 3
    2026: Baebae3235
    2027: pierralban
    2028: mine
    2029+: Generated prospects from this point onwards (with slight edits to top 3-5 guys)

    One thing worth noting is that the sims stats are decent enough, and the only real thing that ruins things a bit is the lack of freethrows by players. League leaders average around 4 FTM a game, and 25ppg. So to average over 20ppg is actually like averaging 25-30ppg, by relativity. Just keep that in mind as i report player stats.

    Another thing to keep in mind, there have been 2 expansion teams, Memphis Sounds and Las Vegas Aces. Memphis Grizzlies relocated to Vancouver, and OKC relocated to Seattle Supersonics. So there are 32 teams currently.

    ALL-STARS IN 2024/25:

    West:
    --Markelle Fultz, 89ovr, PG, SAC (19ppg, 4.3rpg, 8.9apg, 2.6spg, 1.1bpg, 49.1%. 6-time all-star. 1st team all-NBA 3 times, 2nd team once. 1st team all-defense 2 twice, 2nd all-D team 4 times! ROY in 2018)
    --RJ Barrett, 92ovr, SG, VAN (18.3ppg, 8.3rpg, 7.4apg, 2.1spg, 1.2bpg, 49.6%. 5-time all-star so far, won MVP last year on 23/9/8 statline. 1st team all-NBA twice, 2nd team once. 1st team all-defense 3 times, 2nd team all-defense twice.)
    --Karl Towns, 92ovr, C, MIN (18/10/3 statline. Averaged 23/14/3 two seasons ago. 6-time all-star. Won a ring in 2021. 1st team all-NBA 3 times, 3rd team twice. 1st team all-defense once, 2nd team all-defense twice. ROY in 2016)
    --Kevin Durant, 86ovr, SF, GSW (36 yrs old, 21/7/5 statline these days. 16-time allstar! 3 rings. 1st team all-NBA 12 times! 2nd team 3 times. ROY in 2008.)
    --DeAndre Ayton, 87ovr, C, LAC (19.8ppg, 13.7rpg, 1.1apg, 1.1spg, 2.3bpg, 52.5%. Averaged 20/15 the previous 2 seasons. 3-time allstar. 1st team all-NBA 2 times, DPOY 2 times! 1st team all-defense twice, 2nd all-defense once. MIP in 2022.)
    --Xavier Sirven, 88ovr, SG, LAL (Only a 2nd yr player and already this good. 22.5ppg, 4.5rpg, 7.4apg, 2.2spg, 47.8%. 2-time allstar. 1st team all-NBA in his rookie season with 27ppg. 3rd team all-NBA in 2nd season. ROY in 2024 obviously)
    --Immanuel Quickley, 87ovr, PG, DAL (17.8ppg, 4.5rpg, 8.4apg, 3.0spg, 42.6%. 2-time allstar. 2nd team all-NBA once, 2nd team all-defense 3 times, MIP in 2023.)
    --Michael Porter Jr, 84ovr, SF, LAC (17.4ppg, 9.2rpg, 2.5apg, 1.7spg, 1.8bpg, 47.8%. 4-time allstar. 2nd team all-nba once. 2nd team all-defense twice.)
    --Shareef O'Neal, 87ovr, PF, SEA (18.6ppg, 10.1rpg, 1.7apg, 0.7spg, 1.7bpg, 58%. 1st time allstar! Won ring in 2023. MIP in 2024)
    --Nikola Jokic, 89ovr, C, DEN (30 yrs old now, stats declining a bit, had better seasons in past, 15.2ppg, 11.5rpg, 3.9apg, 1.5bpg, 42.5%, 7-time allstar. 1st team all-nba once, 2nd team 3 times, 3rd team 2 times. MIP in 2017.)
    --Darnell Hardaway, 85ovr, SG, VAN (product of FDU#2! 18.7ppg, 6.4rpg, 6.1apg, 1.4spg, 0.4bpg, 45.7%, 2-time allstar)
    --Kris Dunn, 79ovr, PG, MIN (31 yrs old now. 13.8ppg, 4.3rpg, 7.6apg, 2.3spg, 1.0bpg, 44%. 2-time allstar, won ring in 2021. 1st team all-defense once, 2nd team all-defense once.)

    East:
    --Dennis Smith Jr, 89ovr, PG, BOS (21ppg, 3.6rpg, 10.4apg, 2.0spg, 46.6%. 4-time allstar, won MVP this season, won a ring last season, building quite the resume. MIP in 2019. 2-time 1st team all-NBA, 2nd team all-NBA once and 3rd team once)
    --Lonzo Ball, 88ovr, PG, ORL (17.2ppg, 6.2rpg8.9apg, 2.1spg, 0.8bpg, 46.2%. 6-time allstar. Has eclipsed 10apg on 2 seasons. 1st team all-NBA once, 2nd team once, 3rd team twice)
    --Luka Doncic, 92ovr, SF, DET (22.7ppg, 6.9rpg, 8.2apg, 1.9spg, 1.4bpg, 50.0%. 6-time allstar. 1st team all-NBA 3 times, 3rd team 2 times)
    --Marvin Bagley III, 92ovr, PF, DET (19.9ppg, 11.4rpg, 1.5apg, 0.1spg, 1.8bpg, 57.7%. 5-time allstar. Averaged 20 & 15 two seasons ago. 2nd team all-NBA twice, 3rd team once. ROY in 2020. 1st team all-defense once)
    --Giannis Antetokounmpo, 88ovr, SF, MIL (30 yrs old, 17/10/5 statline. 9-time all-star. 5-time 2nd team all-NBA, 3rd team once. 2nd team all-defense 4 times)
    --Tyshawn Atkins, 90ovr, PG, TOR (Product of FDU#2! 21ppg, 2rpg, 8.6apg, 2.5spg, 50.4%. 1st time allstar!)
    --Jarell Benson, 87ovr, SF, BOS (Product of FDU#2. 19.8ppg, 8.3rpg, 6.4apg, 1.2spg, 1.4bpg, 49.6%. 2nd time allstar. Won a ring last season. 1st team all-nba once)
    --Kostja Mushidi, 86 ovr, SG, BRK (drafted 2018, someone ive edited a bit cos i believe in them in real life. 18ppg, 5.8rpg, 6.7apg, 2.4spg, 1.2bpg, 44.8%. 3-time allstar. 2nd team all-NBA once, 3rd team once.)
    --Jaka Moore, 89ovr, C, DET (Product of MarvellousOne DC1! 18.7ppg, 12.8rpg, 0.4apg, 0.8spg, 2.7bpg, 47.5%. 2-time allstar. Won DPOY this season. 2nd team all-NBA once. 1st team all-defense once, 2nd team all-D once.)
    --Raymar Benjamin, 81ovr, PF, NOP (Product of JazzMan#1! 13.9ppg, 7.7rpg, 5.6apg, 1.9spg, 1.9bpg, 43.7%. 2 time allstar. ROY 2023. 3rd-team all-NBA once, ROY in 2023)
    --Jaylen Brown, 88ovr, SF, BOS (17.9ppg, 5.4rpg, 5.0apg, 1.9spg, 1.4bpg, 46.9. 2-time allstar. Won a ring last season. 1st-team all-Defense 2025)
    --Josh Jackson, 85ovr, SF, NOP (16.4ppg, 8.3rpg, 4.1apg, 3.1spg, 1.3bpg, 48.2%. 3-time allstar. 2nd team all-NBA 2021. 2 time 3rd-team all-NBA, DPOY in 2021, 4-time 1st-team all-defense, 1-time 2nd team all-defense)

    ^Players from this all-star group whose ratings, tendencies or potentil i have edited at some point during the years to make them breakout and be stars: Jaylen Brown, Kostja Mushidi, Marvin Bagley, Luka Doncic, Shareef O'Neal, Immanuel Quickly, DeAndre Ayton, RJ Barrett. But that's mostly because they came from 2018 and 2019 draft classes, so i felt like controlling it more.

    Top 50 players in the league, sorted by overall rating (as of 2025 playoffs):
    1. *Luca Doncic, DET, 92
    2. Karl Towns, MIN, 92
    3. *RJ Barrett, VAN, 92
    4. Marvin Bagley III, DET, 92
    5. *Zion Williamson, CHA, 91
    6. Tyshawn Atkins, TOR, 90
    7. Lawrence Howard, UTA, 90
    8. *Kristaps Porzingis, NYK, 90 (gave him a ratings boost just this season, needed more superstars)
    9. *DeAndre Ayton, LAC, 90
    10. Markelle Fultz, SAC, 89
    11. Lonzo Ball, ORL, 89
    12. Nikola Jokic, DEN, 89
    13. Myles Turner, IND, 89 (he could never average star stats though, so his high ovr rating is kinda decieving. He didn't make an impact on the NBA landscape)
    14. Jaka Moore, DET, 89
    15. Joel Embiid, PHI, 89
    16. *Dennis Smith Jr, BOS, 88
    17. Giannis Antetokounmpo, MIL, 88
    18. Axel Romero, BOS, 88
    19. *Dejounte Murray, SA, 88 (i gave him a ratings boost a just few months ago)
    20. *Jaylen Brown, BOS, 88
    21. Xavier Sirven, LAL, 88
    22. *Jayson Tatum, LAL, 88
    23. Anthony Davis, NOP, 87
    24. Jarell Benson, BOS, 87
    25. Sherron Davis, LAC, 87
    26. *Kostja Mushidi, BRK, 86
    27. *Shareef O'Neal, SEA, 86
    28. De'Aaron Fox, PHI, 86
    29. Dejounte Miller, PHI, 86
    30. Ben Simmons, PHI, 86
    31. Darnell Hardaway, VAN, 86
    32. Russell Warner, PHX, 86
    33. D'Angelo Russell, LAL, 86
    34. Kevin Durant, GSW, 85
    35. Brandon Ingram, LAL, 85
    36. *Immanuel Quickley, DAL, 85
    37. *Jonathan Isaac, CHA, 85
    38. Mohamed Bamba, BOS, 85
    39. Robert Williams, GSW, 85
    40. *Wilson Thomas, SAC, 85
    41. Josh Jackson, NOP, 85
    42. *Dragan Bender, PHX, 85
    43. Moses Williams, ATL, 85
    44. *Jamal Murray, DEN, 84
    45. Michael Porter Jr, LAC, 84
    46. *Thon Maker, LAC, 84
    47. Russell Westbrook, SEA, 84
    48. *Donovan Mitchell, HOU, 84
    49. Jabari Parker, ORL, 84
    50. Cameron Reddish, HOU, 84

    * - donates players that i've edited a bit myself.

    The following things i will edit as i progress through the years....

    Past champions (and runner up and finals mvp):
    2016/17: CLE over MEM (LeBron James finals mvp)
    2017/18: CLE over GSW (LeBron)
    2018/19: GSW over CLE (Durant)
    2019/20: GSW over ORL (Durant)
    2020/21: MIN over WAS (Karl Towns)
    2021/22: GSW over BOS (Durant)
    2022/23: OKC over NYK (Westbrook)
    2023/24: BOS over UTAH (Dennis Smith Jr)
    2024/25: SEA over BOS (Shareef O'Neal)
    2025/26: CHI over HOU (Bam Adebayo)
    2026/27: MEM over CHA (Lonzo Ball)
    2027/28: MEM over CHA (Reggie Blount)

    Past MVP winners:
    2016/17: Westbrook, OKC
    2017/18: Durant, GSW
    2018/19: LeBron, CLE
    2019/20: Durant, GSW
    2020/21: John Wall, WAS
    2021/22: Durant, GSW
    2022/23: Karl Towns, MIN
    2023/24: R.J. Barrett, VAN
    2024/25: Dennis Smith Jr, BOS
    2025/26: Zion Williamson, CHA
    2026/27: Zion Williamson, CHA
    2027/28: Jaka Moore, DET

    Past ROY Winners:
    2016/17: Joel Embiid, PHI
    2017/18: Markelle Fultz, SAC
    2018/19: Luka Doncic, DET (fun fact: Doncic is averaging 18/8/7 over his first 7 seasons)
    2019/20: Marvin Bagley III, DET
    2020/21: Reggie Davis, DET
    2021/22: Moses Williams, ATL
    2022/23: Raymar Benjamin, NOP
    2023/24: Xavier Sirven, TOR
    2024/25: Reggie Blount, MEM
    2025/26: Brandon Ross, PHX
    2026/27: Lamond McMillan, HOU
    2027/28: Ethan Hassell, CLE

    Past 6th man winners:
    2016/17: Brandon Knight, PHX
    2017/18: Patrick Beverley, HOU
    2018/19: Patrick Beverley, HOU (this was when Harden was a PG before i changed him back)
    2019/20: Chinanu Onuaku, HOU
    2020/21: Caris LeVert, BRK
    2021/22: Jakob Poeltl, TOR
    2022/23: Troy Brown Jr, WAS
    2023/24: Blake Griffin, NYK
    2024/25: Reggie Blount, MEM (yep, as a rookie)
    2025/26: Miles Bridges, HOU
    2026/27: Dani Beaubois, MEM
    2027/28: Frank Ntilikina, WAS

    Past DPOY winners:
    2016/17: LeBron, CLE
    2017/18: Andre Drummond, DAL
    2018/19: LeBron, CLE
    2019/20: Joel Embiid, PHI
    2020/21: Josh Jackson, NOP
    2021/22: Anthony Davis, NOP
    2022/23: DeAndre Ayton, LAC
    2023/24: DeAndre Ayton, LAC
    2024/25: Jaka Moore, DET
    2025/26: Robert Williams, GSW
    2026/27: Jaka Moore, DET
    2027/28: Jaka Moore, DET

    Past MIP winners:
    2016/17: Nikola Jokic, DEN
    2017/18: Norman Powell, TOR
    2018/19: Dennis Smith Jr, BOS
    2019/20: Trevon Duval, PHX
    2020/21: Kevon Looney, BRK (this was a bull**** one where he went from like 2ppg to 8 ppg)
    2021/22: DeAndre Ayton, BOS (i started taking a heavy handed approach to editing players myself so we got actual breakout stars)
    2022/23: Immanuel Quickley, DAL
    2023/24: Shareef O'Neal, SEA
    2024/25: Dejounte Murray, SA
    ^ The last 4 MIP winners were due to me editing their ratings myself.
    2025/26: Sherron Davis, LAC
    2026/27: Brandon Ross, PHX
    2027/28: Lamont Crawford, DET

    PPG leaders:
    2016/17: Westbrook, OKC (27.1)
    2017/18: Kyrie, CLE (28.0)
    2018/19: Kyrie, CLE (27.1)
    2019/20: Harden, HOU (29.7)
    2020/21: Harden, HOU (25.8)
    2021/22: Malik Monk, BRK (25.3)
    2022/23: S.Curry, GSW (23.5)
    2023/24: Xavier Sirven, TOR (27.0)
    2024/25: Luka Doncic, DET (22.7)
    2025/26: Tyshawn Atkins, TOR (26.2)
    2026/27: Xavier Sirven, LAL (23.8)
    2027/28: Jaka Moore, DET (27.3)

    RPG leaders:
    2016/17: Whiteside, MIA (15.5)
    2017/18: Drummond, DAL (13.9)
    2018/19: Embiid, PHI (12.7)
    2019/20: Towns, MIN (13.9)
    2020/21: Marvin Bagley III, DET (13.6)
    2021/22: Nikola Jokic, DEN (13.3)
    2022/23: DeAndre Ayton, LAC (15.5)
    2023/24: DeAndre Ayton, LAC (15.2)
    2024/25: DeAndre Ayton, LAC (13.7)
    2025/26: Robert Williams, GSW (12.1)
    2026/27: Jaka Moore, DET (15.1)
    2027/28: Jaka Moore, DET (14.8)

    APG leaders:
    2016/17: Westbrook, OKC (13.0)
    2017/18: Westbrook, OKC (12.0)
    2018/19: Paul, LAC (11.4)
    2019/20: Paul, LAC (10.8)
    2020/21: John Wall, WAS (9.7)
    2021/22: Markelle Fultz, SAC (10.2)
    2022/23: Lonzo Ball, ORL (10.0)
    2023/24: Dennis Smith Jr, BOS (9.5)
    2024/25: Dennis Smith Jr, BOS (10.4)
    2025/26: Lonzo Ball with, ORL (10.4)
    2026/27: Markelle Fultz, SAC (10.5)
    2027/28: Dejounte Murray, SA (9.5)

    SPG leaders:
    2016/17: Wall, WAS (3.2)
    2017/18: Paul, LAC (3.1)
    2018/19: Paul, LAC (3.6)
    2019/20: Wall, WAS (3.3)
    2020/21: Wall, WAS (3.3)
    2021/22: Markelle Fultz, SAC (3.5)
    2022/23: MAtthew Dellavedova, GSW (3.0), LOL i didn't even notice that until just now. He probably played 1 game and got 3 steals.
    2023/24: Markelle Fultz, SAC (2.6)
    2024/25: Josh Jackson, NOP (3.1)
    2025/26: Markelle Fultz, SAC (3.3)
    2026/27: Markelle Fultz, SAC (3.4)
    2027/28: Xavier Sirven, LAL (2.8)

    BPG leaders:
    2016/17: DeAndre Jordan, LAC (2.7)
    2017/18: Harry Giles, BRK (3.0)
    2018/19: Tony Allen, MEM (5.0) - WTF? Pretty sure 2k doesn't have a qualifying system for history books
    2019/20: Joel Embiid, PHI (2.5)
    2020/21: Robert Covington, WAS (3.0) huh.
    2021/22: Joel Embiid, PHI (2.7)
    2022/23: Joel Embiid, PHI (2.7)
    2023/24: DeAndre Ayton, LAC (2.8)
    2024/25: Jaka Moore, DET (2.7)
    2025/26: Reggie Blount, MEM (2.7)
    2026/27: Jaka Moore, DET (3.9!)
    2027/28: Jaka Moore, DET (4.0!!)

    HALL OF FAME:
    2017: Dirk Nowitzki
    2020: Dwyane Wade
    2023: Chris Paul,
    2023: Carmelo Anthony
    2023: Dwight Howard
    2025: LeBron James
    2025: Kevin Love
    2026: Kevin Durant
    2026: Blake Griffin
    2027: Russell Westbrook
    2027: Steph Curry
    2027: James Harden
    2027: John Wall
    2027: Kawhi Leonard
    2028: Damian Lillard
    2028: DeMarcus Cousins
    2028: Paul George
    Last edited by Barncore; 08-10-2017, 11:02 AM.

  • Barncore
    Formerly known as Barnsey
    • Aug 2003
    • 1337

    #2
    Re: I've simmed up to 2025 using draft classes from OS. Here's how the landscape look

    Team stories (as of the end of 2024/25 regular season, about to start playoffs)...

    The Boston Celtics are now back to their former glory, with a stacked team of players that are all in their prime. The cpu filled this team out really nicely, with very even positional spread across the whole team.
    PG-Dennis Smith Jr, 89ovr, 27yrs
    SG-Jaylen Brown, 88ovr, 28yrs
    SF-Jarell Benson, 88ovr, 22yrs
    PF-Mohamed Bamba, 86ovr, 26yrs
    C-Axel Romero, 90ovr, 24yrs
    With players like Nerlens Noel (84) and Wendell Carter Jr (83) off the bench.
    (All ratings take into account chemistry/morale boosts/decreases. Boston's chemistry is soaring at 96% right now).

    The Celtics won 71 games this season, with Dennis Smith earning MVP honours. Smith, drafted #4 by the Celtics in 2017 has emerged into a two-way superstar for the Celtics. The Boston roster is rich with two-way players, and that is perhaps what makes them so powerful.

    But they're not the only powerhouse in the East.

    The Charlotte Hornets ended the regular season on a 10-game win streak to win 69 games, on the heals of Zion Williamson's emergence into superstardom. The 6th year combo-forward averaged 19.8 pts on 56.1% FG after averaging 15.8ppg last season in the same amount of minutes. To go along with his 19.8 pts, he also averaged 9.5 rebs, 2.7 asts, 1.1 stls, and 1.4 blks. Considered one of the most athletic players in the league, pundits are expecting another jump for the 25 year old next season.

    The Hornets pair Zion with 27 year old do-it-all forward Jonathan Isaac, who is considered the most versatile defender since Draymond Green. Isaac is elite at defending pick&rolls, rendering the strength of many teams useless. Isaac averaged 12.6 pts (46.4%), 6.1 rebs, 3.9 asts, 1.3 stls and 1.3 blocks, along with making about 1 three a game on 40.2%.

    Running along with these guys is 25 yr old SG Romeo Langoford, who was originally drafted by Charlotte back in 2019 at #5, 5 spots before they drafted Zion Williamson in the same year. Langford is a dynamo on both sides of the floor, with a rounded statline of 18.5/4.1/4.1/1.6/0.4 with extremely healthy percentages of 50.6/40.4/90.4, becoming a member of the prestigious 50/40/90 club. Unfortunately, Langford sprained his ankle pretty severely right at the end of the regular season and will be out for 4-6 weeks, painfully reducing Hornets playoff chances.

    Zubac is also on the Hornets.

    Outside of Boston winning 71 games and and Hornets winning 69, there were no other super records, with the next best being the Memphis' Sounds season record of 58 wins. This is the team i'm controlling. I have no idea how they won that many games, i was trying to tank, lol. This is only their 2nd season. There are no players above 84 on the roster, but i guess depth goes a long way?

    The Philadelphia 76ers have an interesting team. This is the team that i was controlling for the first 5 or so years until i decided to switch over to growing an expansion team. Here's how they look right now.
    PG: De'Aaron Fox, 86, 27 yrs
    SG: Dejounte Miller, 86, 24 yrs
    SF: Ben Simmons, 86, 28 yrs
    PF: Mortiz Wagner, 76, 26 yrs
    C: Joel Embiid, 88, 31 yrs
    That's a contender. A Dynasty of sorts. Only won 52 games this season though. But that's probably because Simmons only played 33 games and Fox only 66. Expect them to make an impact in the playoffs.

    A dynasty worth keeping an eye on is the Detroit Pistons. They might have the best big 3 in the league: Luke Doncic, Marvin Bagley III and Jaka Moore. It is considered one of the best forward lines in NBA history, however their backcourt is sub-par. Here's their full lineup.
    PG: Kemba Walker, 74ovr (usually rated higher but is banged up at the moment)
    SG: Alec Burks, 74ovr
    SF: Luka Doncic, 93ovr
    PF: Marvin Bagley III, 89 ovr (usually rated higher but is banged up at the moment)
    C: Jaka Moore, 90ovr.
    With RHJ (80ovr) coming in off the bench. Outside of Rondae there's not much depth. If they build on top of this next season they will be a contender. However they're locked up with 34 yr old Kemba for the next 3 years on $20mil per year, so they might need a bit of a miracle.

    What about in the West? The power has definitely shifted over to the East in recent years.

    Some Western teams had injury and chemistry problems this year. Seattle is #2 in the standings behind Memphis, who won 55 games behind an aging 36 year old Russell Westbrrok and all-star and Shaquille O'Neal's son Shareef O'Neal.

    The team to watch out for in the West though is the Los Angeles Clippers. They only won 43 games for some reason, most likely due to their superstar center DeAndre Ayton missing 20 games due to an ankle problem. But they still should've won more than that. Ayton will be out for the next 1-2 weeks so they will need to hang on tight in the 1st round of the playoffs. Here's their team:
    PG: Sherron Davis, 87ovr, 22yrs
    SG: Jimmy Butler, 78ovr, 35yrs
    SF: Michael Porter, 84ovr, 26yrs
    PF: Thon Maker, 84ovr, 28-40yrs (who knows he's actual age. The game says 28)
    C: DeAndre Ayton, 90ovr, 26 yrs (with Jusuf Nurkic backing him up who is 81 ovr at 30 yrs old)

    I will post another update after playoffs.

    Please ask any questions about players if you have them! Looking at your, draft class creators!
    Last edited by Barncore; 08-02-2017, 05:31 AM.

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    • RedRifle442
      Rookie
      • Nov 2016
      • 166

      #3
      Re: I've simmed up to 2025 using draft classes from OS. Here's how the landscape look

      Originally posted by Barnsey
      Team stories (as of the end of 2024/25 regular season, about to start playoffs)...

      The Boston Celtics are now back to their former glory, with a stacked team of players that are all in their prime. The cpu filled this team out really nicely, with very even positional spread across the whole team.
      PG-Dennis Smith Jr, 89ovr, 27yrs
      SG-Jaylen Brown, 88ovr, 28yrs
      SF-Jarell Benson, 88ovr, 22yrs
      PF-Mohamed Bamba, 86ovr, 26yrs
      C-Axel Romero, 90ovr, 24yrs
      With players like Nerlens Noel (84) and Wendell Carter Jr (83) off the bench.
      (All ratings take into account chemistry/morale boosts/decreases. Boston's chemistry is soaring at 96% right now).

      The Celtics won 71 games this season, with Dennis Smith earning MVP honours. Smith, drafted #4 by the Celtics in 2017 has emerged into a two-way superstar for the Celtics. The Boston roster is rich with two-way players, and that is perhaps what makes them so powerful.

      But they're not the only powerhouse in the East.

      The Charlotte Hornets ended the regular season on a 10-game win streak to win 69 games, on the heals of Zion Williamson's emergence into superstardom. The 6th year combo-forward averaged 19.8 pts on 56.1% FG after averaging 15.8ppg last season in the same amount of minutes. To go along with his 19.8 pts, he also averaged 9.5 rebs, 2.7 asts, 1.1 stls, and 1.4 blks. Considered one of the most athletic players in the league, pundits are expecting another jump for the 25 year old next season.

      The Hornets pair Zion with 27 year old do-it-all forward Jonathan Isaac, who is considered the most versatile defender since Draymond Green. Isaac is elite at defending pick&rolls, rendering the strength of many teams useless. Isaac averaged 12.6 pts (46.4%), 6.1 rebs, 3.9 asts, 1.3 stls and 1.3 blocks, along with making about 1 three a game on 40.2%.

      Running along with these guys is 25 yr old SG Romeo Langoford, who was originally drafted by Charlotte back in 2019 at #5, 5 spots before they drafted Zion Williamson in the same year. Langford is a dynamo on both sides of the floor, with a rounded statline of 18.5/4.1/4.1/1.6/0.4 with extremely healthy percentages of 50.6/40.4/90.4, becoming a member of the prestigious 50/40/90 club. Unfortunately, Langford sprained his ankle pretty severely right at the end of the regular season and will be out for 4-6 weeks, painfully reducing Hornets playoff chances.

      Zubac is also on the Hornets.

      Outside of Boston winning 71 games and and Hornets winning 69, there were no other super records, with the next best being the Memphis' Sounds season record of 58 wins. This is the team i'm controlling. I have no idea how they won that many games, i was trying to tank, lol. This is only their 2nd season. There are no players above 84 on the roster, but i guess depth goes a long way?

      The Philadelphia 76ers have an interesting team. This is the team that i was controlling for the first 5 or so years until i decided to switch over to growing an expansion team. Here's how they look right now.
      PG: De'Aaron Fox, 86, 27 yrs
      SG: Dejounte Miller, 86, 24 yrs
      SF: Ben Simmons, 86, 28 yrs
      PF: Mortiz Wagner, 76, 26 yrs
      C: Joel Embiid, 88, 31 yrs
      That's a contender. A Dynasty of sorts. Only won 52 games this season though. But that's probably because Simmons only played 33 games and Fox only 66. Expect them to make an impact in the playoffs.

      A dynasty worth keeping an eye on is the Detroit Pistons. They might have the best big 3 in the league: Luke Doncic, Marvin Bagley III and Jaka Moore. It is considered one of the best forward lines in NBA history, however their backcourt is sub-par. Here's their full lineup.
      PG: Kemba Walker, 74ovr (usually rated higher but is banged up at the moment)
      SG: Alec Burks, 74ovr
      SF: Luka Doncic, 93ovr
      PF: Marvin Bagley III, 89 ovr (usually rated higher but is banged up at the moment)
      C: Jaka Moore, 90ovr.
      With RHJ (80ovr) coming in off the bench. Outside of Rondae there's not much depth. If they build on top of this next season they will be a contender. However they're locked up with 34 yr old Kemba for the next 3 years on $20mil per year, so they might need a bit of a miracle.

      What about in the West? The power has definitely shifted over to the East in recent years.

      Some Western teams had injury and chemistry problems this year. Seattle is #2 in the standings behind Memphis, who won 55 games behind an aging 36 year old Russell Westbrrok and all-star and Shaquille O'Neal's son Shareef O'Neal.

      The team to watch out for in the West though is the Los Angeles Clippers. They only won 43 games for some reason, most likely due to their superstar center DeAndre Ayton missing 20 games due to an ankle problem. But they still should've won more than that. Ayton will be out for the next 1-2 weeks so they will need to hang on tight in the 1st round of the playoffs. Here's their team:
      PG: Sherron Davis, 87ovr, 22yrs
      SG: Jimmy Butler, 78ovr, 35yrs
      SF: Michael Porter, 84ovr, 26yrs
      PF: Thon Maker, 84ovr, 28-40yrs (who knows he's actual age. The game says 28)
      C: DeAndre Ayton, 90ovr, 26 yrs (with Jusuf Nurkic backing him up who is 81 ovr at 30 yrs old)

      I will post another update after playoffs.

      Please ask any questions about players if you have them! Looking at your, draft class creators!
      How has Lonzo and LaMelo's career been?

      Sent from my LG-H812 using Operation Sports mobile app

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      • Barncore
        Formerly known as Barnsey
        • Aug 2003
        • 1337

        #4
        Re: I've simmed up to 2025 using draft classes from OS. Here's how the landscape look

        Originally posted by RedRifle442
        How has Lonzo and LaMelo's career been?

        Sent from my LG-H812 using Operation Sports mobile app
        LaMelo burned out quickly and fell out of the league (i.e. the game retired him).

        Lonzo's career has been great. Over his 8 yr career he's averaged 14.9 pts, 6.1 rebs, 8.7 asts, 1.9 stls, 0.6 blks, 3.0 to's. Shooting 46.2%fg, 39.1% 3pt, 73.0% from FT.

        His best season was in 2022/23 when he averaged 19p/6r/10a/2.6s, as you may be able to see in the pic below. Those are Jason Kidd numbers. He was 1st team all-NBA that season, which is his only time doing so. He has made the 2nd all-NBA team once too though, and the 3rd team twice. He also made the 1st all-defense team in 2023. He's a 6-time allstar, which is impressive for an 8 year pro. Clearly a key player in the league.

        His career high in assists is 21, and 9 for steals, and 37 for points.
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        • MarvellousOne
          No need for Titles
          • Sep 2005
          • 1834

          #5
          Re: I've simmed up to 2025 using draft classes from OS. Here's how the landscape look

          Jaka Moore is jazzmans creation. Wanted to give proper credit there. But this is really nice work and great to see how DC creators classes stack up

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          • trekfan
            Designated Red Shirt
            • Sep 2009
            • 5817

            #6
            Re: I've simmed up to 2025 using draft classes from OS. Here's how the landscape look

            Love the way your league looks.

            What system are on you on? (I have 2K17 for PC, but I recently picked up an Xbox One for Destiny 2 as me and my buds want to run there).

            And did you alter any of the progression/regression settings?

            Did you alter any of the training sliders for the teams or leave them at default? (In the first few months of 2K17's release, me and a number of other players found that training sliders needed to be slightly adjusted for all teams, otherwise the league would develop too many elite three-point shooters and skew the scoring way high.)

            Finally, what do the average game scores look like? Is there a Grit and Grind squad like the old Grizzlies, or is everyone running 100+ points a night offenses?
            Any comments are welcome.
            Texas Two-Step (2K20 Alt History)
            Orange And Blue Forever (NCAA 14 Dynasty)
            You Don't Know Jack (2K18 Pacers Dynasty - Complete)
            Second Coming (2K16 Sonics MyLeague - Complete)
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            • Barncore
              Formerly known as Barnsey
              • Aug 2003
              • 1337

              #7
              Re: I've simmed up to 2025 using draft classes from OS. Here's how the landscape look

              Originally posted by trekfan
              What system are on you on? (I have 2K17 for PC, but I recently picked up an Xbox One for Destiny 2 as me and my buds want to run there).
              PS4

              And did you alter any of the progression/regression settings?
              Ah, good question. I was going to post this but forgot. I believe i started with schnaidt1's MyLeague settings for the first few years and then altered it as i went. I concluded that there weren't enough injuries, players changing teams, or movement in player progression/regression for my tastes.

              Here's what i have now:

              League expansion protected players: 8
              Trade frequency: 55
              Career Ending Injury Frequency: 25
              Draft Class quality: 44
              Player progression Rate: 55
              Player Regression Rate: 66
              In-Season Training Effects: 60
              Player Non Financial Ambitions Factor: 95

              Simulator Difficulty: 50
              Trade Negotiation Difficulty: 50
              Contract Negotiation Difficulty: 50
              Computer resign Aggressiveness: 60
              Morale Difficulty: 70
              Morale Effects: 65
              Chemistry Difficulty: 70
              Chemistry Effects: 95
              User Injury Frequency: 50
              CPU Injury Frequency: 50
              Cpu Injury Effects: 53
              User Injury Effects: 53

              I think when i run out of user-made draft classes i'm going to put the draft class quality to 50 and bring the career ending injury slider back up to 50.

              Did you alter any of the training sliders for the teams or leave them at default? (In the first few months of 2K17's release, me and a number of other players found that training sliders needed to be slightly adjusted for all teams, otherwise the league would develop too many elite three-point shooters and skew the scoring way high.)
              Nah didn't do any of that stuff. The reason being that if i had to put time into it then it would sap the fun and the game wouldn't be worth playing.

              That said, i just did some research into what is involved exactly and noticed that it is probably a quicker process than i anticipate.

              Finally, what do the average game scores look like? Is there a Grit and Grind squad like the old Grizzlies, or is everyone running 100+ points a night offenses?
              There were 12 teams over 100ppg the past season. The 32nd team in the league had 92.3ppg, #1 team had 111.7ppg (way above #2 which had 107.1). And the 16th/median team had 99.3ppg.

              Any more questions just ask

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              • Barncore
                Formerly known as Barnsey
                • Aug 2003
                • 1337

                #8
                Re: I've simmed up to 2025 using draft classes from OS. Here's how the landscape look

                The Seattle Supersonics have pulled off the upset 4-2 win against the 71-win Boston Celtics in the 2025 Finals!

                That's Westbrook's 2nd ring and he will likely retire now you would think. He averaged 12.6p, 5.7r, 7.7a, 1.1s, on 36.8% as a 36 yr old in 23 playoff games.

                Shareef O'Neal won finals MVP. Shaq must be beaming with pride. Shareef averaged 19.0p, 11.5r, 1.1a, 0.7s, 2.7b in 23 games in the playoffs and you've got to imagine that the 26 yr old will use this as a springboard into superstardom. That's his 2nd ring. Shareef was drafted #12 by OKC in 2019.

                Also contributing for the Sonics was Caris LeVert, averaging 11.5 pts in 23.6 mins in 17 playoff games. And Derrick Jones Jr, who averaged 10.8pts, 5.8r, 2.7a, 1.8s, 1.5b on 61.7% in 23 games. Also had contributions from Hughie Daniels (a product of FDU#2!), the 26 yr old averaged 10.7pts and 3.0 asts in 26.7 mins in the playoffs.

                The newly acquired 31 yr old Josh Richardson may have been the difference maker for the Sonics, who added yet even more wing depth for them. He chipped in 10.7 pts in 24 mins for the playoffs too.

                The man in the middle for the Sonics was Lithuanian center Dainius Vinicius (a product of FDU#2 too!) who played 28.2 mins per game, with averages of 10.8 pts, 6.9 rebs and 1.3 blks in the playoffs. 5 year pro Elijah Okoye (a product of FDU#1) also helped with center duties with his defensive presence with 23.2 mins off the bench.

                Dennis Smith and the Celtics have gotta be burning after missing the opportunity to deliver a dynasty in Boston, but that whole roster is still in their prime and they may well be back next year too.

                Onto the offseason

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                • trekfan
                  Designated Red Shirt
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 5817

                  #9
                  Re: I've simmed up to 2025 using draft classes from OS. Here's how the landscape look

                  Originally posted by Barnsey
                  PS4


                  Ah, good question. I was going to post this but forgot. I believe i started with schnaidt1's MyLeague settings for the first few years and then altered it as i went. I concluded that there weren't enough injuries, players changing teams, or movement in player progression/regression for my tastes.

                  Here's what i have now:

                  League expansion protected players: 8
                  Trade frequency: 55
                  Career Ending Injury Frequency: 25
                  Draft Class quality: 44
                  Player progression Rate: 55
                  Player Regression Rate: 66
                  In-Season Training Effects: 60
                  Player Non Financial Ambitions Factor: 95

                  Simulator Difficulty: 50
                  Trade Negotiation Difficulty: 50
                  Contract Negotiation Difficulty: 50
                  Computer resign Aggressiveness: 60
                  Morale Difficulty: 70
                  Morale Effects: 65
                  Chemistry Difficulty: 70
                  Chemistry Effects: 95
                  User Injury Frequency: 50
                  CPU Injury Frequency: 50
                  Cpu Injury Effects: 53
                  User Injury Effects: 53

                  I think when i run out of user-made draft classes i'm going to put the draft class quality to 50 and bring the career ending injury slider back up to 50.


                  Nah didn't do any of that stuff. The reason being that if i had to put time into it then it would sap the fun and the game wouldn't be worth playing.

                  That said, i just did some research into what is involved exactly and noticed that it is probably a quicker process than i anticipate.


                  There were 12 teams over 100ppg the past season. The 32nd team in the league had 92.3ppg, #1 team had 111.7ppg (way above #2 which had 107.1). And the 16th/median team had 99.3ppg.

                  Any more questions just ask
                  Very interesting! The progression/regression settings are much higher than I expected. Based off the earlier tests we did in October/November of last year, bumping up the progression/regression settings and leaving training sliders alone vastly skewed the league into unrealistic territory within 5 seasons.

                  Your MyLeague seems to indicate this has been tuned on the backend -- which is what the devs said they would do, but we (to my knowledge) never got confirmation this was done.

                  Follow up questions:

                  When did you begin your MyLeague?

                  What impact have the patches, if any, made to your sliders?

                  And -- if you're satisfied with your sliders -- what are they (along with base difficulty level)?

                  I just want to gather up the information as a reference point for the future, so don't feel obligated to answer any of this. Thanks for the previous answers, though.
                  Any comments are welcome.
                  Texas Two-Step (2K20 Alt History)
                  Orange And Blue Forever (NCAA 14 Dynasty)
                  You Don't Know Jack (2K18 Pacers Dynasty - Complete)
                  Second Coming (2K16 Sonics MyLeague - Complete)
                  The Gold Standard (2K13 Dynasty - Complete)

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                  • Barncore
                    Formerly known as Barnsey
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 1337

                    #10
                    Re: I've simmed up to 2025 using draft classes from OS. Here's how the landscape look

                    Originally posted by trekfan
                    Follow up questions:

                    When did you begin your MyLeague?
                    Not sure, maybe a month ago?? I'm very sporadic with loading up 2k this year.

                    What impact have the patches, if any, made to your sliders?
                    As in, gameplay sliders? The game feels less fun to me now than when i first played the game. Can't put my finger on it, i just don't enjoy playing against the computer. Don't like the way they move/respond.

                    Or do you mean MyLeague? If you mean MyLeague, i have no idea. I didn't really play 2k17 this year so i haven't been keeping up with patches. I got disheartened at some point because i stopped enjoying the game. I probably had about a 4 month break from 2k this year. Got bored recently though and fired it back up.

                    And -- if you're satisfied with your sliders -- what are they (along with base difficulty level)?
                    I think i used schnaidt's gameplay sliders

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                    • trekfan
                      Designated Red Shirt
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 5817

                      #11
                      Re: I've simmed up to 2025 using draft classes from OS. Here's how the landscape look

                      Originally posted by Barnsey
                      Not sure, maybe a month ago?? I'm very sporadic with loading up 2k this year.


                      As in, gameplay sliders? The game feels less fun to me now than when i first played the game. Can't put my finger on it, i just don't enjoy playing against the computer. Don't like the way they move/respond.

                      Or do you mean MyLeague? If you mean MyLeague, i have no idea. I didn't really play 2k17 this year so i haven't been keeping up with patches. I got disheartened at some point because i stopped enjoying the game. I probably had about a 4 month break from 2k this year. Got bored recently though and fired it back up.


                      I think i used schnaidt's gameplay sliders
                      Much thanks! Since your MyLeague is fairly recent, it seems that the progression/regression has been addressed. That should allow for more freedom in determining how the league looks going forward.
                      Any comments are welcome.
                      Texas Two-Step (2K20 Alt History)
                      Orange And Blue Forever (NCAA 14 Dynasty)
                      You Don't Know Jack (2K18 Pacers Dynasty - Complete)
                      Second Coming (2K16 Sonics MyLeague - Complete)
                      The Gold Standard (2K13 Dynasty - Complete)

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                      • Barncore
                        Formerly known as Barnsey
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 1337

                        #12
                        Re: I've simmed up to 2025 using draft classes from OS. Here's how the landscape look

                        2025 Offseason Primer

                        --LeBron James finally retires at 40 years old!

                        He played 22 years in the league (!!), and averaged 23.4pts, 7.7rebs, 7.3asts, 1.8stls, 0.9blks, 3.0 to's, 48.6%fg, 34.6%3pt, 73.8%ft over those 1718 games.
                        1718 games is #1 in NBA history all-time, above Robert Parish and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
                        LeBron also passed Kareem for #1 on the all-time points list, with 40,219 points. He is the first player in NBA history to eclipse 40k pts in a career. (sidenote: Durant passed Kobe for #4 now too!).
                        LeBron is also #9 in 3pointers made all-time. He's #4 in FTM all-time. #15 in rebounds all-time. #2 in assists all-time (wow NOBODY will ever get passed Stockton's mark). #2 in steals all-time. #37 in blocks all-time. And #1 in minutes all-time. Also #1 in turnovers haha.
                        He's also a 5-time MVP, 5-time NBA champion, 19-time allstar(!), 1st all-NBA team 16 times, 2nd team 2 times and 3rd team once. Also the DPOY twice ('17, '19), 1st all-defensive team 10 times, 2nd all-defense twice, ROY in 2004. Holy ****ing ****.
                        *deep inhale*
                        Well that is pretty damn cool.
                        I wonder if he'll get into the hall of fame?

                        --Other retirement tributes:
                        • Mike Conley: Retires at 37 yrs old, 18 yrs in NBA, 1324 games. 31.0mpg, 12.9ppg, 5.8apg, 1.6spg, 43.2%/38.6%/80.6%... He retires having never made an allstar team. But he did make the 2nd all-defensive team in 2013.
                        • Thaddeus Young: 37 yrs old, 18 yrs pro, 1132 games. 24.5mpg, 10.6pts, 4.6rebs, 1.2asts, 1.0stls, 48.4%/31.2%/67.0%. Thaddeus was part of the championship team in OKC in 2023...
                        • Marc Gasol: 40 yrs old, 17 yrs pro, 1243 games. 30.9mpg, 12.7pts, 7.4rebs, 3.5asts, 1.7blks, 45.8%/27.4%/78.1%... 3-time allstar, etc.
                        • Kevin Love: 36 yrs old, 17 yrs pro, 1196 games. 32.0mpg, 17.2pts, 10.8rebs, 2.0asts, 44.1%/38.4%/84.3%... 3 championship rings, 6-time allstar.
                        • Derrick Rose: 36 yrs old, 15 yrs pro, 968 games. 29.2mpg, 14.1pts, 6.0asts, 0.9stls, 42.9%/29.0%/90.3%... 1-time MVP, 3-time allstar.
                        • Isaiah Thomas: 36 yrs old, 14 yrs pro, 1064 games. 30.0mpg, 17.2pts, 5.8asts, 1.1stls, 45.7%/40.0%/88.6%... 3-time allstar.
                        • Hassan Whiteside: 36 yrs old, 13 yrs pro, 794 games. 24.5mpg, 10.8pts, 9.7rebs, 1.6blks, 50.1%... 1-time allstar, 2nd all-defensive team 2 times.
                        • More players: Jrue Holiday (12.8pts, 6.0asts, 1.2stls), Gallinari (12.7pts), Jeremy Lin (10.8pts, 4.6asts, 1.1stls), Terrence Ross (10.2pts), and a few others that weren't really worth typing.


                        Hall of Fame
                        --LeBron James and Kevin Love get inducted into the Hall Of Fame. Their career achievements can be seen above. Kevin Love had heaps of longevity.

                        Retired jerseys
                        --Cavs retires LeBron's #23 jersey obviously (2003-10, 2014-25)
                        --Miami retire LeBron's #6 jersey too for the years between 2010-14
                        --And the Vancouver Grizzlies wanna retire Marc Gasol's #33 jersey for his time with them between 2008 and 2023. DAMN!

                        Contract options
                        --Jonathan Isaac declined his player option. Unlikely it'll mean anything though because no teams have any cap room these days.

                        Aaaaand everybody just got re-signed.
                        Except Dragan Bender (85ovr, 27yo), who signed with Toronto (he was with PHX before).
                        And Bol Bol (Manute Bol's son) signed with Detroit after being with Seattle. But he had a season ending ACL injury last season and probably wont be the same. (he was solid before the injury though! Rated in low 80's. Averaged 12pts, 8rebs, and 2 blks sorta numbers.

                        --Looking at the Player Progression screen, i probably need to bring the regression meter back a touch. Keep seeing 26-27-28 yr olds get nurfed a bit too much. Or maybe i could at least bring Progression up a bit to balance it out. But i do like that players in their early 30's start to decline a bit - but not a lot - and then they go to hell around 35. I think that's how it should be and i don't want to mess with that. Maybe the occassional 26-27-28 yr old nerf is part of the process. Will think about it.

                        The next draft crop
                        --I loaded Baebae3235's fictional draft class for the 2026 draft.

                        Onto next season
                        Last edited by Barncore; 08-02-2017, 12:46 PM.

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                        • JJRuelz
                          Pro
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 686

                          #13
                          Re: I've simmed up to 2025 using draft classes from OS. Here's how the landscape look

                          I once won the 2026 championship with Lonzo and LaMelo ball on the pistons. I also got the pistons to more championships than the lakers and celtics. I like long rebuilds lol
                          Recreate The NBA in NBA 2k18

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                          • VAWereWolf65
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2016
                            • 1734

                            #14
                            Re: I've simmed up to 2025 using draft classes from OS. Here's how the landscape look

                            2k must've confused Tony Allen for Manute Bol
                            VAWereWolf65's Custom Draft Class Thread - 2k19 (Xbox One)

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                            • Chunky_Cracker
                              Rookie
                              • Oct 2016
                              • 223

                              #15
                              Re: I've simmed up to 2025 using draft classes from OS. Here's how the landscape look

                              Originally posted by Barnsey
                              LaMelo burned out quickly and fell out of the league (i.e. the game retired him).

                              Good. Kid is a twat.

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