NBA X’s & O’s

[CelticLG]

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fantastic! so tonight I immediately try the rosters (which ones should I download?) and the relative sliders seen on twich. thanks again for the work you do! a greeting from Italy .... and .... Danilooo Gallinariiiii for threeeeeee

The latest test file is called ATD 83.1 under his tag Vannwolfhawk206

[teknofilo]

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The latest test file is called ATD 83.1 under his tag Vannwolfhawk206

Grazie Celtic!

[teknofilo]

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Great roster! I have tried them and you immediately notice or movements and choices that correspond to the real counterpart, and this is fantastic! Sore point the sliders ... imho really so simple.It is true that I only tried half a game but in the first quarter I kept the CPU at 19% shooting, if opposed they NEVER score! I'll try again but I think the CPU needs a lot of upgrading

[vannwolfhawk]

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I'm surprised the suns's playbook hasnt been updated in 2K. They ran a lot of variations of HORNS CURL plays but I dun see enough to replicate that irl. Van, can share what are the plays u have for the suns? My side here new gen console still not available yet, so can only play on current gen.

Man! I have a ton of great horns flip plays but unfortunately I found a bug with Suns last night and they will never run the flip into immediate pnr for Booker even though I have like 4 of similar plays in their playbook. The Suns are hard coded to run plays for paul and Booker never gets a play called for him. I found this out by zero out paul, eliminate all play types for everyone but Booker and had Booker at 100 touches. 100 run plays. Then eliminated all plays but just the horn flip plays. They would only run freelance. I did all this because I spent 3 days trying to get Suns right and even redid their whole playbook. I tried play initiator on and off, switched play types around, and even exported new chris paul and Devin bookers into the file. Crazy!

Great roster! I have tried them and you immediately notice or movements and choices that correspond to the real counterpart, and this is fantastic! Sore point the sliders ... imho really so simple.It is true that I only tried half a game but in the first quarter I kept the CPU at 19% shooting, if opposed they NEVER score! I'll try again but I think the CPU needs a lot of upgrading

I wouldn’t use those as those are old and every update sliders are immediately outdated. I use broadcast and release timing (no meter) but you can definitely steal a lot of what’s in sliders but movement and shooting for both user and cpu change every update. Very frustrating! The sliders were great the day of I’ve even had to put cpu in 60 ranges at times. So keep in mind.

[vannwolfhawk]

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Oh no. I have no way why I it autocorrected is into isn’t. The gameplay IS amazing


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Lol saw your 1st post and was like wow haha

[JoFri]

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Man! I have a ton of great horns flip plays but unfortunately I found a bug with Suns last night and they will never run the flip into immediate pnr for Booker even though I have like 4 of similar plays in their playbook. The Suns are hard coded to run plays for paul and Booker never gets a play called for him. I found this out by zero out paul, eliminate all play types for everyone but Booker and had Booker at 100 touches. 100 run plays. Then eliminated all plays but just the horn flip plays. They would only run freelance. I did all this because I spent 3 days trying to get Suns right and even redid their whole playbook. I tried play initiator on and off, switched play types around, and even exported new chris paul and Devin bookers into the file. Crazy!

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I wouldn’t use those as those are old and every update sliders are immediately outdated. I use broadcast and release timing (no meter) but you can definitely steal a lot of what’s in sliders but movement and shooting for both user and cpu change every update. Very frustrating! The sliders were great the day of I’ve even had to put cpu in 60 ranges at times. So keep in mind.

I scanned through the entire playbook and couldnt get anything close to the sun's staple offense on the horns curl or flip like u said. Like, after the center set off-ball screen for the PF (usually Crowder or Cam Johnson), PG passes to PF and PF immediately passes it back to PG, and the center set a flare screen for PF cutting to the opposite wing for catch and shoot. If this doesnt work, the center set the on-ball screen with PG on 2-man game. There is another variation where the center will set the off-ball screen for the weakside wing, and I can go on and on ...

The issue u mentioned is more on the CPU not distributing the plays evenly for the rest of the team members. Let me take a look and see tonite. But do u want me to share my findings in this thread or over the other thread (I'm aware there is another thread on tendency edits)?

[vannwolfhawk]

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I scanned through the entire playbook and couldnt get anything close to the sun's staple offense on the horns curl or flip like u said. Like, after the center set off-ball screen for the PF (usually Crowder or Cam Johnson), PG passes to PF and PF immediately passes it back to PG, and the center set a flare screen for PF cutting to the opposite wing for catch and shoot. If this doesnt work, the center set the on-ball screen with PG on 2-man game. There is another variation where the center will set the off-ball screen for the weakside wing, and I can go on and on ...

The issue u mentioned is more on the CPU not distributing the plays evenly for the rest of the team members. Let me take a look and see tonite. But do u want me to share my findings in this thread or over the other thread (I'm aware there is another thread on tendency edits)?

Iirc you are on PS4 last gen right? I know last gen is missing a ton of plays that next gen has. Mostly all the new ones as well which had a lot of Suns actions in them.

Anyways no that’s not what I was saying. They won’t run to Booker even with everyone at 0 and Booker at 100 and only Booker has plays assigned. Again this is Xbox x next gen so not sure if the problem is only for that system or not?

[JoFri]

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Iirc you are on PS4 last gen right? I know last gen is missing a ton of plays that next gen has. Mostly all the new ones as well which had a lot of Suns actions in them.

oh man ... am on xbox1. Able to share a snapshot of what the default suns playbook or the ones u have tailored for them?

Anyways no that’s not what I was saying. They won’t run to Booker even with everyone at 0 and Booker at 100 and only Booker has plays assigned. Again this is Xbox x next gen so not sure if the problem is only for that system or not?

ok noted .. no love for Book!

[teknofilo]

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Man! I have a ton of great horns flip plays but unfortunately I found a bug with Suns last night and they will never run the flip into immediate pnr for Booker even though I have like 4 of similar plays in their playbook. The Suns are hard coded to run plays for paul and Booker never gets a play called for him. I found this out by zero out paul, eliminate all play types for everyone but Booker and had Booker at 100 touches. 100 run plays. Then eliminated all plays but just the horn flip plays. They would only run freelance. I did all this because I spent 3 days trying to get Suns right and even redid their whole playbook. I tried play initiator on and off, switched play types around, and even exported new chris paul and Devin bookers into the file. Crazy!







I wouldn’t use those as those are old and every update sliders are immediately outdated. I use broadcast and release timing (no meter) but you can definitely steal a lot of what’s in sliders but movement and shooting for both user and cpu change every update. Very frustrating! The sliders were great the day of I’ve even had to put cpu in 60 ranges at times. So keep in mind.

Ok vann thanks! i use user timing and removed any indicators. so right now what set of sliders do you recommend to use? I will follow your every change

[teknofilo]

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@vannwolfhawk This morning I played a second game with your rosters and sliders. Sensations diametrically opposite to yesterday regarding the sliders. The match went perfectly. It looked like a real ****ing match! CPU 54% and I 43% at the half. I have lowered the game speed to 57 though it seems better to me

[teknofilo]

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injury speech. no way to use rosters with real injuries at opening night?

Ben Simmons Shouldn't he be off the roster?

[vannwolfhawk]

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injury speech. no way to use rosters with real injuries at opening night?

Ben Simmons Shouldn't he be off the roster?

We just split the rosters 2 days ago. So Celtic is doing the injury roster. My file will be the injury free roster. Basically the same otherwise. I haven’t updated my roster since ATD 83.1 I believe? Gonna take my time dialing in last teams with small gameplay tweaks from testing each team in game. Things like touches and reorganizing play types for variety. Or contested shots if guys aren’t taking shots they should be, etc. I just couldn’t keep the pace anymore as it’s kind of a ocd tedious effort at the end. For example it took me 2 days to get bucks right, I spent 3 days on Suns and still couldn’t get there.

Anyways, all that wasn’t your question but just filling others in. Otherwise that file is 99.9% good to go…

[vannwolfhawk]

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ok noted .. no love for Book!

Ya it’s weird! I only tried the drastic things as everything was ran through chris paul. I even tried all POE’s, put Booker rated higher than paul just to test. I’m actually wondering if this is same thing I’ve struggled with with Clippers when Khawhi is in as I can’t get George looks either. I believe it’s just hard coded in that way or a glitch?

[teknofilo]

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We just split the rosters 2 days ago. So Celtic is doing the injury roster. My file will be the injury free roster. Basically the same otherwise. I haven’t updated my roster since ATD 83.1 I believe? Gonna take my time dialing in last teams with small gameplay tweaks from testing each team in game. Things like touches and reorganizing play types for variety. Or contested shots if guys aren’t taking shots they should be, etc. I just couldn’t keep the pace anymore as it’s kind of a ocd tedious effort at the end. For example it took me 2 days to get bucks right, I spent 3 days on Suns and still couldn’t get there.



Anyways, all that wasn’t your question but just filling others in. Otherwise that file is 99.9% good to go…

sure you did an immense job! and thank you very much, the game has completely changed for the good! if I can I try to ask you for a suggestion ... to reduce the defensive pressure of the cpu, that I always consider it too much on man, which sliders would you modify? and I think contact shots come in really too infrequently. otherwise everything is really good

[vannwolfhawk]

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sure you did an immense job! and thank you very much, the game has completely changed for the good! if I can I try to ask you for a suggestion ... to reduce the defensive pressure of the cpu, that I always consider it too much on man, which sliders would you modify? and I think contact shots come in really too infrequently. otherwise everything is really good

I can’t change pickup points and ball pressure by the cpu that’s hard coded. But I agree on contact and I started to tweak today after today’s update this morning. It was way too bumpy. Again there has been like 5 updates since the set you are using and it only takes 1 to screw it all up. Smh