NBA X’s & O’s

[Tynole14]

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[vannwolfhawk]

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Well that’s good news! So you aren’t crazy! Lol

[Tynole14]

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Well that’s good news! So you aren’t crazy! Lol

Right lmao

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[VictorMG]

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Vann, do you have plays set up for guys like Jokic and Giannis to use on-ball screens set by guards?

[vannwolfhawk]

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Vann, do you have plays set up for guys like Jokic and Giannis to use on-ball screens set by guards?

Yes, czar added some 1-2 PNR, 1-3 PNR in a variety of play types thankfully. But not enough to see a lot in game for joker but you will with Giannis more so… still balancing plays with testing how much I’m seeing certain things per team…

[ch46647]

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Van- What are your thoughts on the off ball “cut” plays and actions?

I’ve noticed most of these plays don’t work very well as the offensive players tend to bump into each other and kind of bunch up, destroying the flow of the play.

Wondering if you’ve found some that work better then others.

Thanks!

[vannwolfhawk]

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Van- What are your thoughts on the off ball “cut” plays and actions?

I’ve noticed most of these plays don’t work very well as the offensive players tend to bump into each other and kind of bunch up, destroying the flow of the play.

Wondering if you’ve found some that work better then others.

Thanks!

Tons of great ones. I’ll post them all when I’m all finished and organized. There are like 20-25 great ones though. Just need to dig and test them.

The DHO’s are great as well and a ton of DHO gems in the pnr’s as well.

I found 10 Chicago plays and tons of real pistol action not the 21 action.

Again, when I’m completely done I’ll post like I did before with best working plays with spacing, action, etc all categorized to make it easy to find exactly what you want or are looking for.

[taildog]

NBA X’s & O’s



This is new this year

[vannwolfhawk]

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This is new this year

Yes great addition!!!

[taildog]

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Yes great addition!!!

I’m not sure where I see the impact in game yet though. I’ve tried using favorite plays to assign plays to my PF where the C is usually the handoff passer but the play still runs through the C.

[vannwolfhawk]

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I’m not sure where I see the impact in game yet though. I’ve tried using favorite plays to assign plays to my PF where the C is usually the handoff passer but the play still runs through the C.

Let me know what you find there. I have not got that far as to is right player 0performing it. Do you have both players assigned with handoff passer?

It could be like some of other plays too where even if I call a play for let’s say sf it will run to my SG. There are a handful like that. Same with post up to either the 4 or 5 even if you call a play for the other.

I’ll dove into it eventually so hopefully you can see what’s happening there. It’s a great addition if we can control it.

[vannwolfhawk]

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Playbook Update

Ok, so as you know all plays are tested. I narrowed down 50 plays per each team as well.

But for me to properly test the playbooks in game I had to start editing tendencies to see how they would truly execute them. For example pass to open man helps teams execute better. I started with 2 teams and just started tweaking scales. The game and teams played amazing! So I just kept going. I spent 12-15 hours per day since release. Yes I have a job but it runs itself. Hence why I can do that… lol

Last night I finished all 30 teams full tendencies. Every tendency.

Now I can test and tweak each team 1 by 1 and adjust plays and tendencies per team as I go. Now that the roster is scaled it’s super easy to tweak something that’s off. I even did all 30 teams rotations. It’s really a great base roster at this point as it still needs some real stat data as well as some more film study for team specific plays.

The plays I have in currently is concepts and actions teams run as well as getting players in spots they like to operate from.

Example, Giannis short corner iso or high post iso, curry coming off floppy, etc.

My whole goal is to have this whole project completely done before the season where all I need to do is tweak new plays for new coaches and the 22 season.

Anyways, still grinding and that’s where I’m at currently…

[VictorMG]

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Last night I finished all 30 teams full tendencies. Every tendency.

Dang, that was fast. What kind of system do you use for tendencies?

[vannwolfhawk]

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Dang, that was fast. What kind of system do you use for tendencies?

Fast? Definitely didn’t feel fast! I’m OCD so when I get started I can’t stop. But I really wanted to knock it out this year and enjoy the game all year. Tired of editing all year and never playing. Lol Plus I have plenty of time on my hands and with not editing last 3 years I haven’t got burned out. But most importantly for me this year was how incredible gameplay is when edited. That’s motivating! Last 3 years were not like this at all.

I went off my scales from years past and see how they translated and then tweaked from there from testing. All gameplay testing. Then stats added last. But I know all the top players it’s the deep bench that needs more film and stats. I’ve been editing rosters Personal for as long as I can remember. I just don’t share them typically. So I know what I’m looking for in certain things… like the stuff from the tendency thread for REALISM…

Like I said, it’s a solid base at this point and not close to done but I’d say I’m 70-75% there… But this is the fun part now. The heavy lifting is over thank god! The scales for everything is the monotonous part and so time consuming! Now it’s test and tweak and film study and repeat… :-)

[vannwolfhawk]

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A quick example of how important the scales are and I just came across when testing the clippers in game. My driving tendencies were too high from years past. They were driving way too much. And I like a high drive and kick game. But In 22 I didn’t need to be as high as years past. So because it was scaled per player I just mass edited what I needed down 10. Then tested again. Bingo found the range there to get what I wanted. And I can do it as 1 big league wide edit which saves hours of time editing!

1 thing I try to do is NOT have to tweak and cpu slider tendencies. I could lower slider driving tendency but that just means my scales were off if I had to do that. Anyways this should be discussed in tendency thread to not derail this one but just wanted to touch on real quick…