NBA X’s & O’s

[ffaacc03]

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Would love to download this base roster you have, even if not yet complete.

[vannwolfhawk]

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Would love to download this base roster you have, even if not yet complete.

You on Xbox next gen? If so, give me a week or so to fine tune it this week. The team specific stuff like touches, play types, and some other stuff still need to be tuned still. Plus want to reorder playbooks after testing and add and subtract if needed. But I can upload for you for sure…

[vtcrb]

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Playbook Update

Ok, so as you know all plays are tested. I narrowed down 50 plays per each team as well.

But for me to properly test the playbooks in game I had to start editing tendencies to see how they would truly execute them. For example pass to open man helps teams execute better. I started with 2 teams and just started tweaking scales. The game and teams played amazing! So I just kept going. I spent 12-15 hours per day since release. Yes I have a job but it runs itself. Hence why I can do that… lol

Last night I finished all 30 teams full tendencies. Every tendency.

Now I can test and tweak each team 1 by 1 and adjust plays and tendencies per team as I go. Now that the roster is scaled it’s super easy to tweak something that’s off. I even did all 30 teams rotations. It’s really a great base roster at this point as it still needs some real stat data as well as some more film study for team specific plays.

The plays I have in currently is concepts and actions teams run as well as getting players in spots they like to operate from.

Example, Giannis short corner iso or high post iso, curry coming off floppy, etc.

My whole goal is to have this whole project completely done before the season where all I need to do is tweak new plays for new coaches and the 22 season.

Anyways, still grinding and that’s where I’m at currently…

The Legend is Hard at work. Hey buddy when you get a chance, can you PM me OR Post a list of Best Plays. I am just coming up with a few Generic Playbooks for me. I want it for Personal use. I cant do full Roster Edits anymore due to Neuropathy issues, but i can make a few edits at a time. I am on PS4 right now OR I would just wait on you to finish.

I am so happy you are back in the Community. Really missed your insight the last few years.

[ffaacc03]

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You on Xbox next gen? If so, give me a week or so to fine tune it this week. The team specific stuff like touches, play types, and some other stuff still need to be tuned still. Plus want to reorder playbooks after testing and add and subtract if needed. But I can upload for you for sure…

Forgot you were on Xbox.

[vannwolfhawk]

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The Legend is Hard at work. Hey buddy when you get a chance, can you PM me OR Post a list of Best Plays. I am just coming up with a few Generic Playbooks for me. I want it for Personal use. I cant do full Roster Edits anymore due to Neuropathy issues, but i can make a few edits at a time. I am on PS4 right now OR I would just wait on you to finish.

I am so happy you are back in the Community. Really missed your insight the last few years.

Hey man! Long time! Good to hear from you. Ya maybe you and 2 other people are happy the rest are like oh great this mf is back! Haha

Sorry to hear about the neuropathy issues! But I’m glad your still around and able to enjoy the game still. You don’t want to edit Anyways it’s a time sucker! I’m at the point of no return now so can’t stop now… That’s part of why I create a thread on OS. It keeps me accountable! Lol

Anyways, You know how I do the playbooks. I unfortunately always write everything on paper 1st as it’s just faster and easy for me. Plus I’m old school. I don’t do spreadsheets. I got chicken scratch everywhere! I have about 30-40 pages of play notes and play types all broken down. So, the last thing I do is type it all out for OS. Usually it takes me about a month to a month and half to get there. I just happened to go crazy and faster than years past.

So, long story short I promise I’ll get them all onto the cpu. I just want to finish the project rather than stop and go. I realize people are waiting though too so I’m going as fast as I can trust me! If you have anything specific though you are looking for Let me know that’s a little easier than typing 250 plays out and in organized categories for everyone. Lol

Just Let me know what you want and I’ll try and help with specifics…

[vannwolfhawk]

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Forgot you were on Xbox.

Ya I thought for a second you made the switch over from the dark side! :-)

[ch46647]

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Van- Do you still plan to post your slider set?

Thanks!

[vannwolfhawk]

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Van- Do you still plan to post your slider set?

Thanks!

Yes I can. Give me a week for that as well. I will be testing all week and last few days since the patch I haven’t really even played as I was editing. But I did get in game for a couple of quarters and it felt a little different. So as I test this week I’ll dial that back in as well…

I will say this though… Maybe get used to playing at 52 speed. I use 52 for a few reasons. It speeds up animations (I did counter with dropping speed thresholds and lateral quickness to counter), but more importantly the nba game is open, high scoring, fast. At default I was getting low scoring games. Especially with a few defensive stops. It free up the pnr game and allowed some snake dribbles too.

But again it felt a little weird post patch so need this week to dial it in… I’ll probably post both at same time… It does take a little getting used to but it plays to my style of play where I like to run plays, drive and kick, and run when I got numbers.

Anyways… yes I will lol

[STLRams]

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Vann, post as much changes/info as you can for us PS5 users please. Haven't even bought 2K22 yet, but your changes/updates will be one of the main reasons I will purchase the game this year. You always posted some great/game changing stuff in the past that resulted in awesome gameplay.

[vannwolfhawk]

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Vann, post as much changes/info as you can for us PS5 users please. Haven't even bought 2K22 yet, but your changes/updates will be one of the main reasons I will purchase the game this year. You always posted some great/game changing stuff in the past that resulted in awesome gameplay.

Damn! I was actually going to reach out to you to test roster too. I was just thinking about that yesterday actually…

I got you though!

[Kendall_Gilbert]

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You on Xbox next gen? If so, give me a week or so to fine tune it this week. The team specific stuff like touches, play types, and some other stuff still need to be tuned still. Plus want to reorder playbooks after testing and add and subtract if needed. But I can upload for you for sure…

Can you make a spreadsheet or something for us players on PS5? I'm excited to see your work

[Becanes]

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Some bad news for roster editors. To adjust play types per player we have to go edit 1 by 1 in edit player. You can’t see them after playbook screen and adjust 1 by 1. Can’t even see their play tpes unless you toggle over and scroll through plays. Not streamlined anymore. Smh

So I'm trying to edit play types. I go to edit player and I'm not seeing where to edit the play type. Could you give me some guidance please?

Someone else gave me the answer.

[vannwolfhawk]

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Playbook Update

All 30 teams and all free agents tendencies are completely done. All 30 teams rough draft playbooks are done and I tested each team in game to tweak and make sure each team is playing correctly.

For example it took me 3 days to get the Clippers & Bucks (hard coded with Giannis & Khawhi) to play like themselves. They were a nightmare. I had similar problem with the Lakers and LeBron. I probably played 100 quarters each of each team and then had to tweak, test, and repeat.

Anyways, tons of signatures were also added to all players from woody’s great work. The game and teams are playing great basketball. I had to tweak some scales slightly as I tested and the minimum and maximum tendencies are all now in their sweet spots.

For example some drive tendencies were too high and needed to be scaled down slightly. There were a ton of new scales this year from games past that have changed drastically. Like the drive tendencies, attack strong, close, etc…

Next step, someone will be editing all the vitals, coaches, ages, more sigs, etc.

As that’s happening I’m watching game film and will be watching tons of games from last year and this years pre-season to add some real plays. Also, as I’m watching film For plays I’m also breaking down player specific tendencies and tweaking as needed. Such as finishing with spin layups, euro, hop step, dribble moves, stepbacks, pull up’s, etc…

For example I watched some games last night and took some notes.

Pacers ran some 5out (Give 52 Clear), DBL Drag into DBL stagger, Chicago, Staggers, empty side PNR with Sabonis, RIP screen to Sabonis, Veer action, etc.

The Clippers ram some elbow action, some AI cuts, and basic dbl staggers. While the Timberwolves ram some double drags. And the Kings ran some pistol into double drag, horns elbow, and some 5 out delay action for Hield. The Grizzlies with double horns top key PNR. Etcetera…

That’s just some examples of notes I’m taking and matching up real team plays and actions with 2k plays. Oh, and 1 last big edit is the order I place plays in for each category will be the last thing I do but very important this year. To see certain actions that are team specific this will need to be done as well.

Of note I have a real nice slider set locked in to go with the roster. I also added another playbook that’s DHO heavy that’s complete and in standard playbook to assign for everyone.

Anyways, don’t confuse me being quiet as not working on the project. It’s actually the opposite. If I’m quiet I’m in deep editing. Lol! This will be complete by opening day! The game has only been out 2 1/2 weeks so where I’m at is pretty crazy to be honest! 10-12 hours a day to get where I’m currently at since release. No idea how any roster could even be out before now. So again, please be patient. The final update will have crazy detail.

[VictorMG]

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Any chance you can upload a roster with your plays? Just to give us a test drive?

[vannwolfhawk]

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Any chance you can upload a roster with your plays? Just to give us a test drive?

Yes… that’s coming shortly… I’m OCD with it so I want to make sure I don’t miss anything first. All fine tuning little tweaks now.