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  • vannwolfhawk
    MVP
    • Jun 2009
    • 3412

    #106
    Re: NBA X’s & O’s

    See above post. Attached everything in the OP as well to easily find later. Hope that helps all communities! Patch just dropped so going in to test and redo my sliders now that go hand in hand with roster. Will update with sliders once I get it dialed back in with recent patch. Fingers crossed for PNR and help defense fix!!!
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    • vannwolfhawk
      MVP
      • Jun 2009
      • 3412

      #107
      Re: NBA X’s & O’s

      Updated roster (#6 most recent) with last nights games player tendency adjustments, rotations, and a few added plays all touched up for those 4 teams. Plus added Jabari Parker, contracts, and redid Celtics sun rotations.
      Last edited by vannwolfhawk; 10-20-2021, 04:21 PM.
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      • strosdood
        MVP
        • Nov 2020
        • 1155

        #108
        Re: NBA X’s & O’s

        Originally posted by vannwolfhawk
        Updated roster (#5 most recent) with last nights games player tendency adjustments, rotations, and a few added plays all touched up for those 4 teams.


        How often do u see yourself updating the roster? I don’t wanna start if there’s gonna be a better version to start with coming up?


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        • vannwolfhawk
          MVP
          • Jun 2009
          • 3412

          #109
          Re: NBA X’s & O’s

          Originally posted by strosdood
          How often do u see yourself updating the roster? I don’t wanna start if there’s gonna be a better version to start with coming up?


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          The 1st 2 weeks a ton. I’ll be watching every game for every team over the next 2 weeks. Add plays, watch rotations, player finishing tendencies, etc. Also just added Jabari, some contracts up to date as well. Plus after the patch drop today I’m playing again and kind of testing each team and slight tweaks I see if needed. Touched, etc… I hadn’t played for a week or so and had a chance to continually test like I normally do and did pre patch. Game feels better after patch so I can test again. But very small detail tweaks is all. Fine tuning…

          But, it’s more than good to go right now if you wanted but it will get more detail in the next 2-3 weeks. I also need to find a draft class and scale tendencies to match. But thats when I’ll start and then create a mynba share with coaching adjustments and conditional coaching changes and subs for each team.
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          • vannwolfhawk
            MVP
            • Jun 2009
            • 3412

            #110
            Re: NBA X’s & O’s

            Update #7 is up. Tons of player updates, sub rotations, and plays added from tonight’s notes (spot up’s / finishing moves mostly) and tonight’s games. Great games tonight! I had 4 games on at same time. Until late. Tried to catch a little of everyone but I’ll rewatch some tomorrow… The knicks Vs Celtics and Hornets Vs Pacers games were great! Kings looked good defensively and Harrison Barnes went off! Duarte looks ready! It will be interesting to see Pacers rotation when everyone is healthy. It will be hard to keep Duarte off the floor. High level basketball for game 1 of the season!
            Last edited by vannwolfhawk; 10-21-2021, 02:57 AM.
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            • STLRams
              MVP
              • Aug 2005
              • 2847

              #111
              Re: NBA X’s & O’s

              Originally posted by vannwolfhawk
              For The PlayStation, PC, & Xbox last gen guys… Splitting these up. Here are the videos with everything…

              2022 Play Types https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1181979922

              2022 Rough Draft Playbooks
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              2022 Pre Season Rough Draft Sub Patterns
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              2 Test Teams Full Edits (Hawks & Warriors)
              https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1181998...tt_content=vod
              Thanks for doing this for us PS5 users Vann. Can't wait to input the values and plays for the teams and players, looking forward to you posting the rest of the teams full edits!

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              • vannwolfhawk
                MVP
                • Jun 2009
                • 3412

                #112
                Re: NBA X’s & O’s

                Originally posted by STLRams
                Thanks for doing this for us PS5 users Vann. Can't wait to input the values and plays for the teams and players, looking forward to you posting the rest of the teams full edits!
                Heads up. Celtic is using my roster as a base for all platforms from my understanding. He’s not very good at getting back to my messages (LOL), but I’d go in his thread and ask him how he’s transferring tendencies over though to other systems. He was going to add his vitals, attributes, coach edits, and badges to my base with my tendencies and plays of 2 days ago. Again, my understanding. All easy edits. But I know I’m 500+ hours in so not sure how he’s going to do that on other platforms.

                I offered to help him if he could help me as well, but he said he took my roster as base 2 days ago and had people that were half way through badges. So apparently he’s too deep in to redo. 5 hours compared to 500 lol. I told him I had 10+ more hours of editing and plays i inputted in this last #7 update since and just to start with new base. It would be easy to edit badges and get that knocked out as it’s all on 1 page easy edit. Anyways, the original opening day base was all rough draft and just to give people a roster to play with. It’s 100% solid to go with 500+ hours into it, but In 2-3 weeks it will be final with wayyyy more player detail and specific plays. You remember how I did in 18 STRams. Same thing. And gameplay very similar. But thats why I told him to wait, take file, edit his vitals, coach edits, etc then he would have a better base after I had more time as well as he was inputting vitals and coach edits both before going to attributes and badges. That way I could add in 1st 2 weeks of games notes and plays for a more solid base for everyone. Made sense to me. Plus knock out 2 birds with 1 stone. Scratch eachothers backs. But I get it as he’s charging people and wants and needs a roster up ASAP.

                I don’t do these for money or fame or competing rosters. I could care less about all that. I would do this for my own roster and do it every year anyways. I can’t play it any other way. I just share it and do it for the community as it’s a gamechanger. But I do find it a little weird to charge people for 80% of someone else’s work without asking. Then I offer help to make sure everyone gets a final version rather than a rough draft version and nah. Lol But to be clear I have 0 problem with anyone using my roster as a base. Just ask me and help me too if needed. Man we live in a different world nowadays. Lol! I think some people look at this as a competing projects. I mean the more rosters the merrier for the community. Some might hate my roster and not like the drive heavy game. Some people don’t want close shots, etc. that’s what’s great about options. To each their own. Oh well…

                Anyways, an example of details added after rough draft. I don’t like to add any finishing moves to players unless I have seen them use it. Things like the euro, spin lay-up, hop step. Same thing with floaters. Then other things are spot up 3’s, contested 3’s tweaking. Harrison Barnes was 8-11 last night from spot up 3’s. I needed to up him significantly in that 1 area. Also, sub rotations getting lots of love as I watch rotations. The kings I added 4-5 new real plays last night.

                My point is I tried for you guys so I’d ask him how he’s doing PS5 so you might not have to do anything except wait. But if he’s not I can definitely do all teams tendency changes videos like I did in other videos once I’m final after 2-3 weeks of watching games and adding more player specific tendencies and team plays! I’m updating every day and night after watching games until done. I’ll post it all when done.
                Last edited by vannwolfhawk; 10-21-2021, 12:52 PM.
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                • Chris_geechiano
                  Rookie
                  • Apr 2016
                  • 218

                  #113
                  Re: NBA X’s & O’s

                  Originally posted by vannwolfhawk
                  Heads up. Celtic is using my roster as a base for all platforms from my understanding. He’s not very good at getting back to my messages (LOL), but I’d go in his thread and ask him how he’s transferring tendencies over though to other systems. He was going to add his vitals, attributes, coach edits, and badges to my base with my tendencies and plays of 2 days ago. Again, my understanding. All easy edits. But I know I’m 500+ hours in so not sure how he’s going to do that on other platforms.

                  I offered to help him if he could help me as well, but he said he took my roster as base 2 days ago and had people that were half way through badges. So apparently he’s too deep in to redo. 5 hours compared to 500 lol. I told him I had 10+ more hours of editing and plays i inputted in this last #7 update since and just to start with new base. It would be easy to edit badges and get that knocked out as it’s all on 1 page easy edit. Anyways, the original opening day base was all rough draft and just to give people a roster to play with. It’s 100% solid to go with 500+ hours into it, but In 2-3 weeks it will be final with wayyyy more player detail and specific plays. You remember how I did in 18 STRams. Same thing. And gameplay very similar. But thats why I told him to wait, take file, edit his vitals, coach edits, etc then he would have a better base after I had more time as well as he was inputting vitals and coach edits both before going to attributes and badges. That way I could add in 1st 2 weeks of games notes and plays for a more solid base for everyone. Made sense to me. Plus knock out 2 birds with 1 stone. Scratch eachothers backs. But I get it as he’s charging people and wants and needs a roster up ASAP.

                  I don’t do these for money or fame or competing rosters. I could care less about all that. I would do this for my own roster and do it every year anyways. I can’t play it any other way. I just share it and do it for the community as it’s a gamechanger. But I do find it a little weird to charge people for 80% of someone else’s work without asking. Then I offer help to make sure everyone gets a final version rather than a rough draft version and nah. Lol But to be clear I have 0 problem with anyone using my roster as a base. Just ask me and help me too if needed. Man we live in a different world nowadays. Lol! I think some people look at this as a competing projects. I mean the more rosters the merrier for the community. Some might hate my roster and not like the drive heavy game. Some people don’t want close shots, etc. that’s what’s great about options. To each their own. Oh well…

                  Anyways, an example of details added after rough draft. I don’t like to add any finishing moves to players unless I have seen them use it. Things like the euro, spin lay-up, hop step. Same thing with floaters. Then other things are spot up 3’s, contested 3’s tweaking. Harrison Barnes was 8-11 last night from spot up 3’s. I needed to up him significantly in that 1 area. Also, sub rotations getting lots of love as I watch rotations. The kings I added 4-5 new real plays last night.

                  My point is I tried for you guys so I’d ask him how he’s doing PS5 so you might not have to do anything except wait. But if he’s not I can definitely do all teams tendency changes videos like I did in other videos once I’m final after 2-3 weeks of watching games and adding more player specific tendencies and team plays! I’m updating every day and night after watching games until done. I’ll post it all when done.


                  Are you gonna be editing badges as well ?


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                  • vannwolfhawk
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 3412

                    #114
                    Re: NBA X’s & O’s

                    Originally posted by Chris_geechiano
                    Are you gonna be editing badges as well ?


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                    Eventually, globally yes. Although I have added quite a few to players for gameplay purposes. I haven’t got rid of badges yet though. Just added. I’m probably in the minority here but I like players badges for differentiating players from one another. I don’t notice weird things like others do. For example I have seen some eliminate all corner 3’s but that’s a highly made shot irl and typically where a high percentage of shots happen. But that and hot spots are the last things I do along with (if need be) a good speed edit globally. For example though I added badges for stepback shooters for more success like irl. Where 2k seems to represent a stepback as a bad shot.

                    But this was another good reason I thought the difference between the 2 could be good. Like I’d like to be able to go in and test my tendencies with his badges and attributes. Then if I liked specific edits in a category I’d probably mass edit that specific one. But as is now I have lateral quickness, perimeter d, help d iq edited to go with my sliders so I don’t want those touched. Also the same thing for point guards teamed with game speed slider for agility for players to perform snake dribbles. So some attributes I don’t want touched.
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                    • Chris_geechiano
                      Rookie
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 218

                      #115
                      Re: NBA X’s & O’s

                      Originally posted by vannwolfhawk
                      Eventually, globally yes. Although I have added quite a few to players for gameplay purposes. I haven’t got rid of badges yet though. Just added. I’m probably in the minority here but I like players badges for differentiating players from one another. I don’t notice weird things like others do. For example I have seen some eliminate all corner 3’s but that’s a highly made shot irl and typically where a high percentage of shots happen. But that and hot spots are the last things I do along with (if need be) a good speed edit globally. For example though I added badges for stepback shooters for more success like irl. Where 2k seems to represent a stepback as a bad shot.



                      But this was another good reason I thought the difference between the 2 could be good. Like I’d like to be able to go in and test my tendencies with his badges and attributes. Then if I liked specific edits in a category I’d probably mass edit that specific one. But as is now I have lateral quickness, perimeter d, help d iq edited to go with my sliders so I don’t want those touched. Also the same thing for point guards teamed with game speed slider for agility for players to perform snake dribbles. So some attributes I don’t want touched.


                      Completely understand bro.. where can I find your sliders?


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                      • vannwolfhawk
                        MVP
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 3412

                        #116
                        Re: NBA X’s & O’s

                        Originally posted by Chris_geechiano
                        Completely understand bro.. where can I find your sliders?


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                        Give me a day or 2. Still tightening up after patch. Might put up tomorrow or Saturday hopefully…
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                        • CelticLG
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2014
                          • 1905

                          #117
                          NBA X’s & O’s

                          Originally posted by vannwolfhawk
                          But I get it as he’s charging people and wants and needs a roster up ASAP.

                          Just a quick note about this. We don’t charge any money to use our roster. People can support our work, and have access to a lot of things that required 3 years of working (badges, tendencies, attributes guide, all of my 300 formulas, my durability data, staff edits sheets, the MyLeague guide, the MyNBA spreadsheet, the random event generator, the possibility to ask historic players creations, fictional draft classes created specifically for the roster, etc). It’s a big world, the roster is just a small part.

                          And we do this for charity. We just re-pay our subscriptions (Synergy, BBall-Index, CTG, ABT). The rest goes to charity, we donated over 1000$ dollars to 6 different charity associations after 1.5 years of our Patreon Program.

                          We’re very excited to use our work Vann, you inspire me back in 2019 to create my very roster! And I used a lot of your scales and perfected them through those year

                          And most importantly with the help of our community we can transfer your edits to the others platforms (PS4, PS5, Xbox One and Pc).

                          We’re ready for a great year of basketball!

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                          • vannwolfhawk
                            MVP
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 3412

                            #118
                            Re: NBA X’s & O’s

                            Originally posted by CelticLG
                            Just a quick note about this. We don’t charge any money to use our roster. People can support our work, and have access to a lot of things that required 3 years of working (badges, tendencies, attributes guide, all of my 300 formulas, my durability data, staff edits sheets, the MyLeague guide, the MyNBA spreadsheet, the random event generator, the possibility to ask historic players creations, fictional draft classes created specifically for the roster, etc). It’s a big world, the roster is just a small part.

                            And we do this for charity. We just re-pay our subscriptions (Synergy, BBall-Index, CTG, ABT). The rest goes to charity, we donated over 1000$ dollars to 6 different charity associations after 1.5 years of our Patreon Program.

                            We’re very excited to use our work Vann, you inspire me back in 2019 to create my very roster! And I used a lot of your scales and perfected them through those year

                            And most importantly with the help of our community we can transfer your edits to the others platforms (PS4, PS5, Xbox One and Pc).

                            We’re ready for a great year of basketball!
                            That’s awesome with the charity stuff! Didn’t know that but pretty cool! I meant patreon not charge for roster. My bad. Like I said I don’t even care about the rosters. Lol but let’s give them the best one we can not the rough draft. Lol! but let’s do it! All have the same goal anyways! Real and sim!

                            Some have PM’d me and asked me in here about how to translate over? Are you putting numbers in a spread sheet or straight copying from the file?
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                            • vannwolfhawk
                              MVP
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 3412

                              #119
                              Re: NBA X’s & O’s

                              Heads up… We got it figured out. Badges, vitals, coaching edits, and contracts will be edited next and it will remain up to date before we split. We should have it edited round the clock for next few weeks and as up to date for everyone. This way the file will be mynba ready and the community will have 2 solid options that are similar but slightly Different.
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                              • mvpstax
                                Rookie
                                • May 2020
                                • 203

                                #120
                                Re: NBA X’s & O’s

                                Gave these a try last night. Nice work!

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