Shady Mike's "Real Feel" NBA 2K15 Real FG% Superstar Sliders

[Sam12345]

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I am playing with the -8 in shooting with the same sliders. I am going to try 48 game speed and 48/48 3pt success. (On PS4)

[annan]

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Hey shady, what do you think about turnovers with your slider set? It seems like The CPU never has a lot of turnovers (more than 10) for a game. I think the league minimum is around that but I never see the big turnover numbers against the weaker teams. I think that's my only criticism with your set, everything else plays great for me ( I think I have 3 pt shooting one click higher but everything else is the same).

Also can you explain the why there is a speed difference between CPU and Human player? Does the CPU get a speed boost on default?

[Shady Mike]

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Hey shady, what do you think about turnovers with your slider set? It seems like The CPU never has a lot of turnovers (more than 10) for a game. I think the league minimum is around that but I never see the big turnover numbers against the weaker teams. I think that's my only criticism with your set, everything else plays great for me ( I think I have 3 pt shooting one click higher but everything else is the same).

Also can you explain the why there is a speed difference between CPU and Human player? Does the CPU get a speed boost on default?

I posted on this earlier in the thread, I gotta try and find it and I'll quote myself...2 aspects of the game that CANT be realistic are Fatigue and Turnovers, because if they were realistic then they wouldn't be...realistic...Make sense?

[Shady Mike]

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Hey shady, what do you think about turnovers with your slider set? It seems like The CPU never has a lot of turnovers (more than 10) for a game. I think the league minimum is around that but I never see the big turnover numbers against the weaker teams. I think that's my only criticism with your set, everything else plays great for me ( I think I have 3 pt shooting one click higher but everything else is the same).

Also can you explain the why there is a speed difference between CPU and Human player? Does the CPU get a speed boost on default?

Yes the CPU gets a speed boost on Superstar, the offset values evens it out! Also I found that post I was referring to earlier

Appreciate the feedback, it's good to see how the steals/turnovers have changed since the changes, but I do think it's for the best.

I've said it since day 1 my goal is to make this game as realistic as possible, but as a videogame 2K just has it's limitations, and turnovers are a great example of that. The issue of this situation is there are plenty of fouls OFF the ball in the NBA that result in a turnover like illegal screens, and jarring under the basket in which the latter simply does not occur in the game. So when we look at the league averages of turnovers which is 12-18 (11.9 being the best and 17.7 being the worst) I think that we should take into account that the league avg in steals is 6-10 (6.0 being the worst, and 9.7 being the best)

So, in months past I was trying to get in that 12-18 turnover range when I didn't realize that I was just causing stat inflation with the steals because the game doesn't take into account the many off ball fouls that occur in a real NBA game. (my team was avg 13 stls a game at one point in my myleague).

Now, this is where I hit the numbers. After taking a look at this link which shows some advanced NBA foul statistics:

http://www.nbaminer.com/foul-details/

The NBA average of total team personal fouls is 20, the overall NBA average of shooting fouls committed is 12, so that leaves approximately 8 fouls left over (including flagrants/technicals) that would result in a turnover. I would argue that in 2K15 we see maybe 3 per game, so that leaves about 5 foul based turnovers per game unaccounted for.

TL;DR version: What does all of that mean? Long story short, with the current foul sliders it is impossible to get enough off the ball fouls and inflating steals to fix this problem just well...creates more problems, SO, from here on instead of looking to have 12-18 TOPG we should be looking for 7-13 tops to account for the 5 off the ball fouls that we will not see in game.

EDIT:I might sticky this in the OP

[Shady Mike]

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Hey I just dropped 4 points 2 rebounds and 10 assists with Chris Paul in the FIRST QUARTER is that an NBA record? (Assists?)

[Johnny944]

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Hey I just dropped 4 points 2 rebounds and 10 assists with Chris Paul in the FIRST QUARTER is that an NBA record? (Assists?)

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...ock-you/page/7 man had 12 assist in single quarter, john lucas 14

[Shady Mike]

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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...ock-you/page/7 man had 12 assist in single quarter, john lucas 14

Dang lol...oh well, i was hoping it was! Stellar game from him anyways!

So back to PC same exact sliders as the OP and this game played great...

Let me introduce you to the man we call "Point GOD!" I was up 16 after the first shooting 60% and CP3 had 10 assists in the first quarter but it all came back down to earth when Gordon Hayward (My absolute favorite player in the NBA) scored 14 in the second quarter, and then they later tied the game in the third quarter making it close...lucky for me, Chris Paul kept dishing, and Blake and Deandre kept finishing around the rim because I was able to pull out the win in the end...

Stats:


LAC stats:

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UTA stats:

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I think I am going to alternate between PC and PS4! So far my thoughts on the CONSOLE version is it is REALLY hard to hit 3 point shots as the User, and the tempo seems much faster than the PC...Also the CPU offense is like..VERY good, it's not that they are hitting shots that they shouldn't its just that they always seem to make the right play EVERY time...not sure if that is the slider set or DC/Hyper roster but I'll keep an eye on it! I'd probably like to see more mistakes/bad shots by the CPU on console!

[tyberious4now]

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Honestly I love the challenge from the cpu it makes me work harder to get good shots...

[thegame19991999]

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[Shady Mike]

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Honestly I love the challenge from the cpu it makes me work harder to get good shots...

I agree.

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The rebounding ratings really showed out between these 2 games...What game speed and console is this? I'm playing one now on PS4 I have the gamespeed at 45 ATM

[sleeper69]

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I agree.



The rebounding ratings really showed out between these 2 games...What game speed and console is this? I'm playing one now on PS4 I have the gamespeed at 45 ATM

How does 45 feel? I'm going to try 48 now.

[Shady Mike]

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How does 45 feel? I'm going to try 48 now.

Great, takles maybe 2 quarters to get used to, but It's helped me a lot especially defensively, and stats are back down to earth.

Playing as the mavericks vs the Spurs and Dirk is 9/9 2/2 from 3 with 22 points and 8 boards lol

EDIT:So here's my thing, this is directed at all of the "Comeback A.I." "Game is scripted" sympathizers...I am the Mavericks and I am up 17 on the Spurs who are shooting 40% and 29% from 3...they are even missing their wide open shots...Do you not think that at some point all of these wide open shots realistically are going to stop missing? Like I just don't understand how people get mad when the CPU stops missing shots they SHOULD have been making in the first place.

[Shady Mike]

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Screenshot system is weird on PS4, sorry if pictures are too small...I destroyed the Spurs tonight. I was up 17 in the 3rd and they cut it to 6 going in to the 4th and then Monta Ellis messed around and scored 17 in the fourth quarter...straight lit those dudes up in the 4th quarter...Like I said I played this game on the PS4 at 45 gamespeed this slider set never ceases to amaze me with how diverse the games are when you take a look at this game me as the Mavericks and then look at the game I played as the Cavs vs the Rockets on the last pagewhere I had no answer for their offense I mean its astounding...look at how I absolutely BODIED the Spurs on the glass, look at the points in the paint which mainly represents Monta Ellis and Rajon Rondo finishing basket after basket in the paint...Great game.



DAL stats:

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SA stats:

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Truth be told I don't really feel like he gamespeed is any different from PC to PS4, but I do like 45 better...who knows, I may play on 45 on PC too.

[sleeper69]

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Screenshot system is weird on PS4, sorry if pictures are too small...I destroyed the Spurs tonight. I was up 17 in the 3rd and they cut it to 6 going in to the 4th and then Monta Ellis messed around and scored 17 in the fourth quarter...straight lit those dudes up in the 4th quarter...Like I said I played this game on the PS4 at 45 gamespeed this slider set never ceases to amaze me with how diverse the games are when you take a look at this game me as the Mavericks and then look at the game I played as the Cavs vs the Rockets on the last pagewhere I had no answer for their offense I mean its astounding...look at how I absolutely BODIED the Spurs on the glass, look at the points in the paint which mainly represents Monta Ellis and Rajon Rondo finishing basket after basket in the paint...Great game.



DAL stats:

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SA stats:

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Truth be told I don't really feel like he gamespeed is any different from PC to PS4, but I do like 45 better...who knows, I may play on 45 on PC too.

PS4
45 game speed

I hope this is the other way around tomorrow night lol Harden was unstoppable Dwight fouled out in the 3rd but Josh Smith showed up and Parsons not proving he's Worth being called a star and his 45 million dollar contract choking against his former team lol. Overall I think stats look pretty good even fouls and turnovers look realistic.

[Shady Mike]

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PS4
45 game speed

I hope this is the other way around tomorrow night lol Harden was unstoppable Dwight fouled out in the 3rd but Josh Smith showed up and Parsons not proving he's Worth being called a star and his 45 million dollar contract choking against his former team lol. Overall I think stats look pretty good even fouls and turnovers look realistic.

Thanks for the feedback. WAY too many shot attempts on PS4 significantly more than PC oddly enough...that's my opinion SO far. I have no problem with WHAT'S happening, just the rate that it's happening. As you pointed out, the stats actually look fantastic. I love gamespeed at 45 though...the slider set doesn't translate as seamlessly as I had hoped it would, but at least now I know that something needs to be ironed out...I'm a tad confused though...how did you get 101 and 104 shot attempts and then "thegame19991999" got 64 and 67 attempts in his post...unless he didn't play 12 minute quarters...Like that is a 40 shot difference lol how the hell does that happen? Even my games on PS4, first game I had 93 shots and the second game I had 92 shots...but on my PC game I had 82...and then the first game I played against the Rockets I got lit the f*** up...and then the 2nd game I played the Spurs literally missed every shot they took!

I think at the end of the day we will have to do some slight tweaking based on whatever console we are playing on to make sure it fits our playstyle and the type of stats we want to see. I do think this slider set is a solid base though...not as flawless as it was pre-patch (because trust me, that **** was flawless) but it's getting there.

(Then there is also the wildcard of the rosters...not sure how different rosters effect the gameplay either...the Hyper/DC roster was...interesting to say the least...guys play smarter, but the shooting ratings are questionable)

And if I can say ONE thing...this game plays FLAWLESSLY in terms of smoothness on the PS4, much smoother than the PC, and if it wasn't for graphics and face mods I would DEFINITELY prefer to be on the PS4...