Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

[zten11]

Re: Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

Does anyone know if this problem can be solved? I can post a picture later today if necessary.


Platform:
Xbox One

What is the bug?
I was so excited to start a new season with my new roster. So I did that and it has the players on my team averaging points that are close together from 19 PPG then guys whobarely score averaging double digits.

What mode did you experience the glitch/bug in?
MyLeague

How did it happen or what did you do to trigger it? Can you recreate it?
I'm trying to figure this out. I don't think it's a league setting but probably an unavoidable glitch from time to time when you start a season. Maybe it happens 1 out of every 100 seasons?

[schnaidt1]

Re: Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

So... With the movement sliders...i did not "spread" the gap. I'm allowing players to play to their true speed rating

I have the max speed without ball set to 99. That simply means that a player could have up to 99 speed and you will see it on the court.

Example. Let's say John wall has a speed of 95 in the game. If i set speed without ball at a cap of 90. It means John wall is no longer a 95 speed, he is a 90.

So suddenly dame lilliard and john wall could have the same speed. It does not boost players speed.

I'm simply allowing the possibility of players being that fast, i also limit the speed with ball to 90.

And limit how slow a player can be.

Tacko fall could have a speed rating of 25 without ball, but if i have it set to let's say 35 as the minimum, then his speed will be 35.

That's how the movement sliders work, i have it set to allow the wide variety in player speed gaps verse letting everyone feel the same speed.

Speed plays a big part in why guys like John wall, giannis, and d. Fox are so successful. They get in transition and nobody can keep up.

If anything, I've nerfed speed a little with the attribute at 40.

But those movement sliders will only buff slow players, they do not make fast players faster. Or slow players slower

These are the only changes over the first page settings, I believe?

I played a half with them yesterday (beating Mavs 61-55 with Spurs). The only change was on the passing sliders in controller settings. I'm using 65-25-10 instead of 98-1-1, it just makes my passes go where I want them to go more comfortably.

And for the sliders, I didn't see anything wrong. And I saw some improvements indeed. CPU not forcing every shot to the rim anymore, very good distribution actually.

For me at least, close shots worked as always, I was 9/12 from the rim (CPU was 7/10), but I do my best to avoid contested shots any time. When I drive in traffic, I do it mostly to draw fouls, which works fine. I use timing for "shots only", btw.

Actually, when it comes to defense, I think these sliders are the best out there, by far. In every other set I tried, I found it very easy to exploit on offense with fast guys running to open spots in the edge of the court and then cutting inside for easy lay-ups. This is the only set I tried where the CPU continuously denies me these opportunities to cheese. They still appear sometimes, but it's mostly in fast breaks, or if I successfully run a play, very rarely it's out of nowhere.

I also like very much how stealing works. Not overpowered but not impossible, and slightly forgiving against passes.

And I still love the balance in overall stats, it's to the point.

Now for the bad:

It was not the case in this game (both teams shot poorly from distance so far), but I still firmly believe that, if I'm gonna make a personal change for the set, it is narrowing the gap in 3pt success. 49/60 just feels like it's too much, and this impression is supported by my shooting stats after a lot of games with the set. Big advantage to the CPU and a bit overpowered against the rest of the league. I'm thinking about trying 50/55 to see how it goes.

Movement sliders, don't like them. I still feel like 60 game speed is a bit too much, but this is made worse by the speed/accel sliders of fast guys pushed to extremes. They're unrealistically quick. Slower guys on the other hand are still unrealistically slow. I honestly feel like you went in the wrong direction with these. The best movement sliders I've tried so far are definitely Eccentric's, and he did exactly the opposite of what you did: tightenint the gap between minimum and maximum instead of widening it. With your set, big guys like Aldridge and Poeltl seem totally out of place when running without the ball, it's almost like they're from a different species of living beings.

BUT - Even not liking them, I would be very afraid of making drastic changes to movement sliders, as I believe this could have the potential of breaking everything else, the offense-defense correlation, these sorts of things. I don't know. Maybe it would be worth a try, in case people agree with my observations on this, but if in the end we realize this would require an entire redesign of the set, it may be not worth it.

As a whole, your set is still the most solid one I have tried. And despite movement, I think it has improved.

I'll play the second half at night to see if my impressions persist.

https://www.youtube.com/user/schnaidt1

[GaloVingador]

Re: Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

So... With the movement sliders...i did not "spread" the gap. I'm allowing players to play to their true speed rating

I have the max speed without ball set to 99. That simply means that a player could have up to 99 speed and you will see it on the court.

Example. Let's say John wall has a speed of 95 in the game. If i set speed without ball at a cap of 90. It means John wall is no longer a 95 speed, he is a 90.

So suddenly dame lilliard and john wall could have the same speed. It does not boost players speed.

I'm simply allowing the possibility of players being that fast, i also limit the speed with ball to 90.

And limit how slow a player can be.

Tacko fall could have a speed rating of 25 without ball, but if i have it set to let's say 35 as the minimum, then his speed will be 35.

That's how the movement sliders work, i have it set to allow the wide variety in player speed gaps verse letting everyone feel the same speed.

Speed plays a big part in why guys like John wall, giannis, and d. Fox are so successful. They get in transition and nobody can keep up.

If anything, I've nerfed speed a little with the attribute at 40.

But those movement sliders will only buff slow players, they do not make fast players faster. Or slow players slower.

I don't know if your theory is right or wrong, it might be right, but I can say it doesn't work well in practice. No athlete sprints as slowly as my big guys do with your set, I can barely tell they're walking. In sets with tighter gaps, it's much more natural. I understand the intention of trying to increase skill separation between players, but the result isn't any realistic to my eyes.

Sorry if this sounds harsh. I love your sliders and they're my main choice atm. But I'm being honest, I think movement is the Achilles heels of them.

[campbellrama]

Re: Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

I don't know if your theory is right or wrong, it might be right, but I can say it doesn't work well in practice. No athlete sprints as slowly as my big guys do with your set, I can barely tell they're walking. In sets with tighter gaps, it's much more natural. I understand the intention of trying to increase skill separation between players, but the result isn't any realistic to my eyes.

Sorry if this sounds harsh. I love your sliders and they're my main choice atm. But I'm being honest, I think movement is the Achilles heels of them.

Just make some personal changes to the sliders, I would assume that's what most people do anyway.

If you feel like slow players are too slow then bump the minimum speeds up. Personally, I like the difference in speed. I have made other changes to the sliders though, I hate broadcast cam (tried it for a while, didn't really see how it made the game harder in any way so I went back to 2k) and the sliders are too easy so I have cpu awareness, consistency, blocks, and lateral quickness turned up.

The sliders are a great base and make it so small tweaks are easy enough to make.

[GaloVingador]

Re: Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

Just make some personal changes to the sliders, I would assume that's what most people do anyway.

If you feel like slow players are too slow then bump the minimum speeds up. Personally, I like the difference in speed. I have made other changes to the sliders though, I hate broadcast cam (tried it for a while, didn't really see how it made the game harder in any way so I went back to 2k) and the sliders are too easy so I have cpu awareness, consistency, blocks, and lateral quickness turned up.

The sliders are a great base and make it so small tweaks are easy enough to make.

Definitely. And of course, schnaidt is free to disagree with me. But as the sliders are up for testing, I think feedback might be valuable.

[dazzl]

Re: Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

My personal preference for game speed is 51. I think the perfect setting for it is around 51-53. On 60 it looks like players are skating/flying over the court.

[Eddiespagghetti]

Re: Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

My personal preference for game speed is 51. I think the perfect setting for it is around 51-53. On 60 it looks like players are skating/flying over the court.

Personally. I think thats way too slow. Players seem to slug there. I find the close to best setting between 56-58. I agree with 60 being a little too much as and results in some skating, less feet planting. But I feel at 58, its a great compromise, at least for me.

[Eddiespagghetti]

Re: Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

So decided to give nba 2K one more try. Played several games last night. different teams a bad team in the Hornets. Destroyed them no competition. Blew out Utah as well by 30. Denver beat them by 10. Really competitive against Golden State where it could of gone either way. Won that game by 3. Golden State was up by 17 at one point. I shot 71% from the field in the fourth quarter including 5 of 7 from 3. But then ran into the Lake Show. Smh they put up 134 points on me. I shot 23 of 52 from 3 point with the grizzlies and still lost. Madness. The final in that game was 134-129 and to be honest it wasn’t really as close until the last minute I hit like 3 of 3 from distance. So I think it’s just kinda knowing the players you play with. Perhaps the Grizzlies are just rated too high I moved them back to Vancouver it’s been different

Without a doubt. Different shot releases, styles, plays. Plays a big factor. And 2K now does a good job in makinf defensive adjustments. I dont expect to pick up the suns, and start balling. I already have trouble scoring with the Heat and thats my team.

[zten11]

Re: Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP ME WITH THIS? THE AVERAGE STATS FROM THE GAMES I HAVE PLAYED ARE WAY OFF. HOWEVER, THE GAME LOGS ARE CORRECT. IS THERE ANYWAY TO FIX THIS? ALSO, THE AVERAGE STATS WHEN YOU SORT THEM OUT BY HOME, AWAY, ETC. ARE ALSO CORRECT.

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[zten11]

Re: Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP ME WITH THIS? THE AVERAGE STATS FROM THE GAMES I HAVE PLAYED ARE WAY OFF. HOWEVER, THE GAME LOGS ARE CORRECT. IS THERE ANYWAY TO FIX THIS? ALSO, THE AVERAGE STATS WHEN YOU SORT THEM OUT BY HOME, AWAY, ETC. ARE ALSO CORRECT.

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[schnaidt1]

Re: Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

This is a slider thread.... This would fall under bugs n glitches....id seek help there.

I don't have the happen nor would i care cuz I'm all about the gameplay

CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP ME WITH THIS? THE AVERAGE STATS FROM THE GAMES I HAVE PLAYED ARE WAY OFF. HOWEVER, THE GAME LOGS ARE CORRECT. IS THERE ANYWAY TO FIX THIS? ALSO, THE AVERAGE STATS WHEN YOU SORT THEM OUT BY HOME, AWAY, ETC. ARE ALSO CORRECT.

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https://www.youtube.com/user/schnaidt1

[zten11]

Re: Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

This is a slider thread.... This would fall under bugs n glitches....id seek help there.

I don't have the happen nor would i care cuz I'm all about the gameplay

https://www.youtube.com/user/schnaidt1

I know but I'm not getting any answers and I thought you might know about it being a league setting or something...

[schnaidt1]

Re: Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

It's upon starting a start today... Might be a glitch

I know but I'm not getting any answers and I thought you might know about it being a league setting or something...

https://www.youtube.com/user/schnaidt1

[EccentricMeat]

Re: Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

So... With the movement sliders...i did not "spread" the gap. I'm allowing players to play to their true speed rating

I have the max speed without ball set to 99. That simply means that a player could have up to 99 speed and you will see it on the court.

Example. Let's say John wall has a speed of 95 in the game. If i set speed without ball at a cap of 90. It means John wall is no longer a 95 speed, he is a 90.

So suddenly dame lilliard and john wall could have the same speed. It does not boost players speed.

I'm simply allowing the possibility of players being that fast, i also limit the speed with ball to 90.

And limit how slow a player can be.

Tacko fall could have a speed rating of 25 without ball, but if i have it set to let's say 35 as the minimum, then his speed will be 35.

That's how the movement sliders work, i have it set to allow the wide variety in player speed gaps verse letting everyone feel the same speed.

Speed plays a big part in why guys like John wall, giannis, and d. Fox are so successful. They get in transition and nobody can keep up.

If anything, I've nerfed speed a little with the attribute at 40.

But those movement sliders will only buff slow players, they do not make fast players faster. Or slow players slower


https://www.youtube.com/user/schnaidt1

While you’re somewhat correct, the real problem comes down to the low speed ratings in the 2K roster. Simply put: no one IRL moves as slow as 2K thinks big men should move in this game.

I’m also not sure about your theory on how the movement sliders affect ratings. My movement sliders have a pretty small gap between Max and Min settings, yet there is still plenty of variety in player speed in game. It’s possible that there’s some type of formula being applied to player ratings based off the movement slider values, instead of just lifting every player below the Min value up to that Min value and dropping all the speeds above the Max value down to that Max value.

Just a thought, I haven’t tested the specific differences between players enough to know. All I did was decrease the Max values until I was happy with the speed/acceleration of the fastest players in the game, then increased the Min values until the slowest players moved realistically slow.

[GaloVingador]

Re: Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

Just make some personal changes to the sliders, I would assume that's what most people do anyway.

Or I could just mix Schnaidt's sliders with EccentricMeat's movement and game speed as I just did haha. Had a good time. It affected fast breaks a bit, but there were still enough. Good to see Poeltl being functional and Aldridge picked as player of the game instead of DeRozan for once.

I tried 50/55 for 3 pointers too, but this made the CPU hopeless from 3P range, they only scored 5 out of 26. Might be because it was the Wizards (worst team of my league). Or maybe not. I'll give them some 3PT success back just in case.