New Info on 2K8

**Pared** · 08-23-2007, 09:33 AM

Re: New Info on 2K8

Originally posted by MattsterMH

And that new hotspot thing they added in 2k8? That's ********. Seriously. I don't get why they added that...

What's wrong with that? I doubt you won't have to option to turn it off.

That's one thing I've liked about 2k's basketball game: options.

**WTF** · 08-23-2007, 09:34 AM

Re: New Info on 2K8

Originally posted by bamalam

lol,

the translation is hilarious,

reminds me of "all your bases are belong to us"

:y4:

the PS3- and Xbox 360-Versionen of the play will not from each other differ as well as

lol

**Writer's Block** · 08-23-2007, 10:14 AM

Re: New Info on 2K8

Originally posted by BTB

If 2k would have used the 2k2 engine and just built up from there they would have a much better bball game in my opinion then what we have now. There is nothing wrong with what Konami has done because the engine resembles the true game of soccer so well that is perfectly fine and doesn't need to be changed, just updated.

But Pro evo does have faults that need fixing and haven't been. i.e, only having 8 directions of movement for players, leading to a slalom type of running. The dribbling is incredibly unrealistic and the shooting is erratic. There are enough fundamental changes that could be made but instead Konami choose overtweak something (i.e ref's being over lenient) and then fix it in the next edition, when this could be done in a patch.

Changing the engine every year hurts the product in my opinion because we are constantly getting new builds that each have their own faults instead of a good build one year that turns into perfection as the years progress.

IMO the current 2k engine has some innate faults within the player movement technology and physics that cannot be corrected by simple updates anyway.

I agree with you there, Although it seems like 2K have stuck to the same engine since 2k6 and updated it, rather than changed it completely.

And I dunno what you are talking about, Pro Evo kills 2k7 in gameplay. I know a game is great when I can constantly create new plays, see new animations and things that get me excited a year after the game comes out. That ended for me in 2k7 a few months ago, whereas I could play WE9 and still be having a great time. Sports games need a certain amount of freedom so that the user can have the feeling of creativity and not be restricted by the design of the game, so that you actually feel like you are playing the sport and constantly creating opportunities. 2K has had a problem with this since 2k2 (the last game in the series that had a realistic flow to it imo), whereas Konami nailed it and has no reason to completely change the engine.

Personally, I haven't got excited about Pro Evo since PES4. They haven't added any major new features since then, just adding small things (refs being overly harsh in PES5) and then taking them out (refs being overly lenient in PES6). Konami haven't bothered changing the Master league mode since PES4 and that mode has needed a major overhaul for a while.

There's only so far I can go on debating personal enjoyment because it's all subjective, but for me Pro evo has been a constant disapointment for about 3 years now.

**Ghayghay** · 08-23-2007, 11:30 AM

Re: New Info on 2K8

Originally posted by Writer's Block

But Pro evo does have faults that need fixing and haven't been. i.e, only having 8 directions of movement for players, leading to a slalom type of running. The dribbling is incredibly unrealistic and the shooting is erratic. There are enough fundamental changes that could be made but instead Konami choose overtweak something (i.e ref's being over lenient) and then fix it in the next edition, when this could be done in a patch.

I agree with you there, Although it seems like 2K have stuck to the same engine since 2k6 and updated it, rather than changed it completely.

Personally, I haven't got excited about Pro Evo since PES4. They haven't added any major new features since then, just adding small things (refs being overly harsh in PES5) and then taking them out (refs being overly lenient in PES6). Konami haven't bothered changing the Master league mode since PES4 and that mode has needed a major overhaul for a while.

There's only so far I can go on debating personal enjoyment because it's all subjective, but for me Pro evo has been a constant disapointment for about 3 years now.

While I agree that the improvement of this game have not been what I would've expected.. it still rank year after year as the best sports game ever built in my mind.

The gamepay is amazing. The number of ratings and the special skills (that APF as copied, Good Job) are a big part of it..

**Moses Shuttlesworth** · 08-23-2007, 12:48 PM

Re: New Info on 2K8

Originally posted by Ghayghay

While I agree that the improvement of this game have not been what I would've expected.. it still rank year after year as the best sports game ever built in my mind.

The gamepay is amazing. The number of ratings and the special skills (that APF as copied, Good Job) are a big part of it..

Agreed, 100%

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