NBA 2K9 Patch Released For 360/PS3, Impressions Here

[Muzyk23]

Re: NBA 2K9 Patch Released For 360/PS3, Impressions Here

For offline users, WHO DON'T USE SLIDERS OR ROSTER EDITS, the patch has made the game worse than ever.

-Alley oops
-Everyone can score at will
-I can swipe for steals and watch my hand go thru the guys face, hand and thru the ball.
-I can play D, lock on to a defender, swipe air and get called for a foul
-Point blank shots are missed too often
-CPU can back everyone down

I'm one of such users and haven't experienced anything like that

[wsu_gb23]

Re: NBA 2K9 Patch Released For 360/PS3, Impressions Here

A lower level gives the CPU less of an urgency to find the "perfect" shot. On the higher difficulty levels, they will find that shot much more often, as well as contest better, almost to the point where it feels unrealistic IMO.

The game, IMO, plays the best on Pro. This was pre-patch though and I haven't really had the time to check it out much post-patch. Raise your foul sliders (to at least 65 for all of them, some more than others), raise the commit fouls slider slightly, drop Dunks in Traffic to about about 30, drop the CPU's "finish strong" slider about 5 points, raise the CPU defensive awareness and *possibly* lower the shooting sliders down to about 42, 47, 45 (close, med, 3pt) and you should be set.

There are other issues that need to be addressed (like too many perfect passes) but sliders can't really help this year. You end up messing up other aspects of the game.

I'm sure they will get looked at for next year though.

Thanks for your insight...last year I played on Pro and I loved it. My sliders were perfect....some games I would win by 20, some I would lose by 20...it's too bad every year we have to keep tweaking the sliders...you think 2K would figure out what plays a great game of basketball....they have everything else done right in the game, why can't they get it to play exactly like basketball?

[Joey P]

Re: NBA 2K9 Patch Released For 360/PS3, Impressions Here

I'm one of such users and haven't experienced anything like that

Well, I forgot to include that those are all the things the CPU are doing, except for the fouls.

In practice mode, I had Gasol pick up his dribble, I stood in front of him with Sheed and swiped 5 times. 3 times Sheed's hands went straight thru the ball and arms of Gasol, one time thru his face and the last time a foul.

One instance made me almost turn the game off, CPU picked up a loose ball and threw a perfect oop.

[Bornindamecca]

Re: NBA 2K9 Patch Released For 360/PS3, Impressions Here

What difficulty level gives the most realistic experience? It seems like Hall of Fame makes the CPU play unrealistically well...they find every guy under the basket, or drive for an "And 1" I do like the defense I get from the HOF difficulty. Should I just lower CPU offensive awareness, or lower the level to All-Star or Superstar and raise the CPU defensive awareness?

That really depends on your style and level of play, post patch. Right now I'm finding All Star to be a shade on the easy side, but it's not unrealistic at all. I'm going to test Superstar after I rack up a few more of these achievements I've been ignoring.

[Muzyk23]

Re: NBA 2K9 Patch Released For 360/PS3, Impressions Here

sorry to see it happening to you, but like I said I'm not experiencing it at all JC

[Bornindamecca]

Re: NBA 2K9 Patch Released For 360/PS3, Impressions Here

A lower level gives the CPU less of an urgency to find the "perfect" shot. On the higher difficulty levels, they will find that shot much more often, as well as contest better, almost to the point where it feels unrealistic IMO.

The game, IMO, plays the best on Pro. This was pre-patch though and I haven't really had the time to check it out much post-patch. Raise your foul sliders (to at least 65 for all of them, some more than others), raise the commit fouls slider slightly, drop Dunks in Traffic to about about 30, drop the CPU's "finish strong" slider about 5 points, raise the CPU defensive awareness and *possibly* lower the shooting sliders down to about 42, 47, 45 (close, med, 3pt) and you should be set.

There are other issues that need to be addressed (like too many perfect passes) but sliders can't really help this year. You end up messing up other aspects of the game.

I'm sure they will get looked at for next year though.

This is all pretty much spot on. There are more errant passes post patch, so far on All Star. All Star is more realistic now than it was before the patch. Even when they contest shots, they don't magically find the ball every time. If they are out of position, they are out of luck, and that feels more natural than people turning around running, leaping and getting a hand on the ball all in one morphing motion.

Mid range jumpers are easier if you're wide open. Tougher if contested. Right now I'm shooting a pretty high percentage on All Star, and OS Vets can tell you that my shooting with the Spurs was nothing to brag about(sans Timmy, who is everything to brag about).

Pared, I'm seeing more bad passes post patch by the CPU. KG threw it out of bounds(!) and Rondo threw it at someone's foot.

Isomotion does feel much easier and smoother. I wasn't bad at it before by any stretch, but now I'm not seeing any errant animations at all. I might upload some pretty crazy Kobe replays to show what I mean. He's abusing Ray right now, LOL.

[Pared]

Re: NBA 2K9 Patch Released For 360/PS3, Impressions Here

Are you running default All-Star? I need to get some time to give a good test. I was only able to get in a few games with my settings in place and I couldn't tell what was the result of the patch and what wasn't in terms of shooting numbers.

I've noticed players drop the ball more as well. Just randomly, while dribbling. It was never clear to me why it happened though. I think it could be the result of too much isomotion usage?

[wsu_gb23]

Re: NBA 2K9 Patch Released For 360/PS3, Impressions Here

Just played a game on Pro...I was the Nuggets vs. Hornets (CPU) Nuggets (ME) 104- Hornets 96

Nuggets: 55% Hornets 44%

Nuggets 5 turnovers Hornets 10

Nuggets O. Rebs 2 Hornets 12

My FG sliders were 42, 47, 47 (Close, Med, 3)

It seemed like a realistic game of basketball; might have to try all-star with the same sliders and see what I get....

[wsu_gb23]

Re: NBA 2K9 Patch Released For 360/PS3, Impressions Here

Do the shot tendencies in the sliders work? I haven't changed CPU shot selection since the patch.

I was checking out some shot charts of actual NBA games, and I notice that teams only attempt less than 20% of shots in the paint. Most shots are from 3 or Mid.....I'm gonna try raising shot selection Mid to 100 and lower Shoots Inside to almost 0 and see what happens.

[Gmoney2002]

Re: NBA 2K9 Patch Released For 360/PS3, Impressions Here

As someone has mentioned earlier in the thread, Bosh, Calderon and Bargnani's shots have been adjusted post-patch. Calderon's release is still a tad slow though.

Post-Patch discoveries(some already mentioned):

-CPU throws far more errant passes post-patch.

-Backing someone down is the post is pretty much non-existent. Even when a centre with a high post off rating against a wing player.

- The pace of the overall game seems more frenetic post-patch. Can't quite put my finger on it. CPU makes offensive descisions much quicker now. Maybe it's just me...

-New contact animations when transitioning from dribble drive to layup.

- I have been playing on All Star difficutly since I got the game but post-patch, I find All-Star a little easier. I've bumped my difficulty up to Superstar. Hopefully realistic games can be had with this difficulty.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think Lebron's dunk package has been edited.

[Scoop 24]

Re: NBA 2K9 Patch Released For 360/PS3, Impressions Here

Well i played a game Lakers (me) vs Bucks (cpu) in my assoc. post patch.

the score was LA 108- MIL 68

bucks shot 46%FG and 26% 3pt
Lakers 53% Fg nd 34% 3pt

Bucks 36 PIP
Lakers 47 PIP

needless to say this has been my statline lately not alot of blowouts as this is. but even in my close games since the patch. i have been able to play much better defense in the paint not any old joe can come in and dominant in the paint no more. bynum and gasol are blocking shots left and right. which is leading me to play better perimeter defense Redd who i played pre patch scored 54 on me something like 70% shooting. this game post patch i held him to 12 points on 6-14 shots and this time around he was actaully taking jump shots infact overall teams have been taking much more jump shots on me.

as for back to basket post play gone.im getting more post moves off i did not know how to do. from spins, to drop steps hell in even get push on the backdown depending on the position i have down low on the block. this has even open the floor for me as teams start doubling me alot lately and i been getting alot of open jumpers im even hitting cutters in stride now. hell bynum had a triple double in this game 14 pts, 11 Rebs, 10 Ast.

[Pared]

Re: NBA 2K9 Patch Released For 360/PS3, Impressions Here

-Backing someone down is the post is pretty much non-existent. Even when a centre with a high post off rating against a wing player.

It's all about your position (where you start to back someone down). If you don't have position, your player will not back the guy out.

Pass the ball out, reset your post positioning, feed the ball back in and you'll see him start backing the guy down (as long as it isn't Derek Fisher on Shaq).

You can't start posting up with bigs outside on the perimeter post-patch.

[Scoop 24]

Re: NBA 2K9 Patch Released For 360/PS3, Impressions Here

- I have been playing on All Star difficutly since I got the game but post-patch, I find All-Star a little easier. I've bumped my difficulty up to Superstar. Hopefully realistic games can be had with this difficulty.

i agree im finding all star to be quite easy (post patch) looks like im going to have to bump it up.

[Scoop 24]

Re: NBA 2K9 Patch Released For 360/PS3, Impressions Here

i do hate the fact they have not fix the transition from Dribble to shot.. i hate the little delay it always messes up my shot timing.

[NINJAK2]

Re: NBA 2K9 Patch Released For 360/PS3, Impressions Here

It's all about your position (where you start to back someone down). If you don't have position, your player will not back the guy out.

Pass the ball out, reset your post positioning, feed the ball back in and you'll see him start backing the guy down (as long as it isn't Derek Fisher on Shaq).

You can't start posting up with bigs outside on the perimeter post-patch.

Co-sign. This game is much more defensive minded imo since the patch and I like the slightly more methodical pace as well. Good job 2k. Still got work to do for 2k10.