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[RayAP19]

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I just wish I could get the CPU to run shooters off screens a lot, which I think is the most common play in basketball other than the Pick and Roll.

[Joey P]

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I just wish I could get the CPU to run shooters off screens a lot, which I think is the most common play in basketball other than the Pick and Roll.

LOL, I don't know why you are not seeing this. Happens every game since I've made some tweaks by way of this thread.

Problem is your stubbornness of not wanting to play on Pro.

- Off the dribble shots....CHECK

- Star players getting theirs....CHECK

- Baseline screens....CHECK

- Fastbreaks (me and CPU)....CHECK

Keep in mind, playing on PRO doesn't hinder your ability to make the CPU more challenging. Where ever you think the CPU is lacking in and/or too easy for you to stop, bump that slider up some.

[notque]

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Can someone upload a set of these so those of us that are lazy can just down load? Thanks.

[Behindshadows]

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Can someone upload a set of these so those of us that are lazy can just down load? Thanks.

already did, check by my gamertag rosters and sliders!

[RayAP19]

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LOL, I don't know why you are not seeing this. Happens every game since I've made some tweaks by way of this thread.

Problem is your stubbornness of not wanting to play on Pro.

- Off the dribble shots....CHECK

- Star players getting theirs....CHECK

- Baseline screens....CHECK

- Fastbreaks (me and CPU)....CHECK

Keep in mind, playing on PRO doesn't hinder your ability to make the CPU more challenging. Where ever you think the CPU is lacking in and/or too easy for you to stop, bump that slider up some.

lol, I've been playing on Pro the whole time. I'll even download the rosters that Behindshadows uploaded (what's your GT BTW?) just to make sure I didn't input the sliders wrong.

I'm saying, teams should be running off ball screens for shooters on like 98% of their possessions. The mid range jumper is the most common shot in basketball IIRC, and I don't see a lot of it.

And by shots off the dribble, you mean jumpers or just drives and layups off the dribble?

And if you really have that much faith in it, you should upload it to 2KShare if you have online. That's only if I come back and Behindshadows download didn't do anything for me.

[Joey P]

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I don't mind uploading the sliders but further testing needs to be done before calling it final or even good to go.

I don't play the Quick Games, only Season or Association. So I need to play more teams with different styles before I think about uploading anything.

Although, everyone's play style is different so many slider changes are not gonna be accepted by many (shooting sliders mostly). But that can always be changed to your liking.

[TheGame8544]

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So is everyone just going to ignore my post? I feel it is a decent question. The fact is there is a discrepancy in the NBA among the teams that shoot a high number of 3 pointers (like the Knicks and Rockets) and the teams that shoot a low number of 3 pointers (like the 76ers and Thunder).

I love the sliders and the way the game plays but in association, won't this make everyone play identically? Won't all teams just take the open shot as opposed to looking for shots around the perimeter (like the Nets and Cavs)? I will admit I have not played with these enough to know the answer to my question, so would someone please address this?

[RayAP19]

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So is everyone just going to ignore my post? I feel it is a decent question. The fact is there is a discrepancy in the NBA among the teams that shoot a high number of 3 pointers (like the Knicks and Rockets) and the teams that shoot a low number of 3 pointers (like the 76ers and Thunder).

I love the sliders and the way the game plays but in association, won't this make everyone play identically? Won't all teams just take the open shot as opposed to looking for shots around the perimeter (like the Nets and Cavs)? I will admit I have not played with these enough to know the answer to my question, so would someone please address this?

I think the player tendencies might control how many three-pointers a team takes, so there will be the discrepancy you're looking for.

I don't mind uploading the sliders but further testing needs to be done before calling it final or even good to go.

I don't play the Quick Games, only Season or Association. So I need to play more teams with different styles before I think about uploading anything.

Although, everyone's play style is different so many slider changes are not gonna be accepted by many (shooting sliders mostly). But that can always be changed to your liking.

I agree that everyone plays differently, but how the CPU runs their offense shouldn't be affected by an individual's style of play. I just wanna see this perfect CPU offense that everyone keeps talkin about.

[TheGame8544]

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I think the player tendencies might control how many three-pointers a team takes, so there will be the discrepancy you're looking for.

Thanks a lot man. I don't know why I didn't think of that. You are probably right. Has anyone tested this to see for sure?

[sheva07]

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Thanks a lot man. I don't know why I didn't think of that. You are probably right. Has anyone tested this to see for sure?

yes definitely. i work with the neon datas for our pc counterpart and it's amazing the fact how the individual player tendency affects the global team skill, in this case th 3pt rating. in fact his work gives the best realistic stats but it has been a huge work converting and inputting all those datas using basically a pc editor.

[TheGame8544]

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yes definitely. i work with the neon datas for our pc counterpart and it's amazing the fact how the individual player tendency affects the global team skill, in this case th 3pt rating. in fact his work gives the best realistic stats but it has been a huge work converting and inputting all those datas using basically a pc editor.

Good deal. Hey I am making the changes to the teams using the website you posted earlier that tracks fast break points. What do you think should be done to the Knicks? Technically, they are bottom 10 in the league in fast break points, but obviously D'Antoni loves to run the court. So what would you put their fast break and run plays at?

[sheva07]

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one more thing...i've tested many games using different scale of defensive pressures on coach profiles....well...i find the solution for the "3 pt cheese fest"....tested 4 games against warriors ( i've noticed that warriors 3 pt player tendencies are the highest among nba teams).

1st game defensive pressure set to 35 ( me knicks ): trying to press tightly any ballhandler ( it was so hard believe me): 35 3PT ATTEMPTS.
2nd game def.pressure to 40: 30 3PT ATTEMPTS
3td game def. pressure to 45: 27 3PT ATTEMPTS
4th game def.pressure to 50: 24 3PT ATTEMPTS

this could be understood not as an objective test cause gameplay feels different any tested game but as you can notice 3pt shot reduced drastically raising def.pressure by 15 notches.
This means that we have to use the same scale for each team ,for example in a range from 45 - 55 giving only different values to the "help defense" strength.

BTW i left close mid 3pt shot at default ( 60-100-60).

[sheva07]

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Good deal. Hey I am making the changes to the teams using the website you posted earlier that tracks fast break points. What do you think should be done to the Knicks? Technically, they are bottom 10 in the league in fast break points, but obviously D'Antoni loves to run the court. So what would you put their fast break and run plays at?

knicks warriors magic lakers

off tempo 90 100 50 75
def.press. 45 45 50 50
help def. 25 35 50 60
FB 65 85 40 60
crash b. 15 5 40 35
run plays 80 80 80 80
zone def. 50 50 25 25

[Behindshadows]

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lol, I've been playing on Pro the whole time. I'll even download the rosters that Behindshadows uploaded (what's your GT BTW?) just to make sure I didn't input the sliders wrong.

I'm saying, teams should be running off ball screens for shooters on like 98% of their possessions. The mid range jumper is the most common shot in basketball IIRC, and I don't see a lot of it.

And by shots off the dribble, you mean jumpers or just drives and layups off the dribble?

And if you really have that much faith in it, you should upload it to 2KShare if you have online. That's only if I come back and Behindshadows download didn't do anything for me.

Click on my 360 icon or look at my Arena and you can see my GT..lol

[TheGame8544]

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knicks warriors magic lakers

off tempo 90 100 50 75
def.press. 45 45 50 50
help def. 25 35 50 60
FB 65 85 40 60
crash b. 15 5 40 35
run plays 80 80 80 80
zone def. 50 50 25 25

Wow those are some high FB numbers! Thanks man.