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  • sheva07
    Rookie
    • Dec 2008
    • 272

    #181
    Re: I Have Completely Fixed Every Problem With CPU Play/Assoc Stats/PITP/Shots Off Dr

    Originally posted by RayAP19
    Shoot Off Dribble is a rating, not a tendency. I wish it was that simple.

    And for the record, that question was for anyone who wants to help-- all insight is appreciated.
    yes it's an attribute....as i told you...i raise it for many players and they are totally out of control

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    • RayAP19
      Banned
      • Oct 2006
      • 2668

      #182
      Re: I Have Completely Fixed Every Problem With CPU Play/Assoc Stats/PITP/Shots Off Dr

      Originally posted by sheva07
      yes it's an attribute....as i told you...i raise it for many players and they are totally out of control
      You really think that raising a certain attribute will affect how they play? Can anyone verify this? I'll test it when I get home

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      • STLRams
        MVP
        • Aug 2005
        • 2847

        #183
        Re: I Have Completely Fixed Every Problem With CPU Play/Assoc Stats/PITP/Shots Off Dr

        This thread has gotten so long and so many changes have been applied to teams tendencies, I don't know what to try or implement into my game as far as coaching profile tendencies. I'm really hoping someone post everyteams Gametempo, run plays, and fastbreak for everyteam.

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        • RayAP19
          Banned
          • Oct 2006
          • 2668

          #184
          Re: I Have Completely Fixed Every Problem With CPU Play/Assoc Stats/PITP/Shots Off Dr

          Originally posted by STLRams
          This thread has gotten so long and so many changes have been applied to teams tendencies, I don't know what to try or implement into my game as far as coaching profile tendencies. I'm really hoping someone post everyteams Gametempo, run plays, and fastbreak for everyteam.
          Just test it yourself, dude-- that's the best way to do everything

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          • icebecher
            Rookie
            • Oct 2007
            • 19

            #185
            Re: I Have Completely Fixed Every Problem With CPU Play/Assoc Stats/PITP/Shots Off Dr

            Originally posted by sheva07
            yes it's an attribute....as i told you...i raise it for many players and they are totally out of control
            Can you specify which values you have given to which players?
            Am I right to assume you still use Neon's roster as a base for editing?

            Thanks in advance.

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            • sheva07
              Rookie
              • Dec 2008
              • 272

              #186
              Re: I Have Completely Fixed Every Problem With CPU Play/Assoc Stats/PITP/Shots Off Dr

              Originally posted by icebecher
              Can you specify which values you have given to which players?
              Am I right to assume you still use Neon's roster as a base for editing?

              Thanks in advance.
              i'm using "neon" rating scale to fix those values. i don't have time and willing to write down all ratings for each players.

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              • icebecher
                Rookie
                • Oct 2007
                • 19

                #187
                Re: I Have Completely Fixed Every Problem With CPU Play/Assoc Stats/PITP/Shots Off Dr

                Sorry, I didn't make myself clear.
                I wanted to know your "shot off the dribble" values for the league's main guns.

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                • RayAP19
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 2668

                  #188
                  Re: I Have Completely Fixed Every Problem With CPU Play/Assoc Stats/PITP/Shots Off Dr

                  Here's another question-- how sure are you that raising the Shoot Off Dribble rating will affect how often they actually shoot jumpers off the dribble?

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                  • Joey P
                    Banned
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 686

                    #189
                    Re: I Have Completely Fixed Every Problem With CPU Play/Assoc Stats/PITP/Shots Off Dr

                    You guys are changing player ratings now?

                    Wow, I guess I'll leave this thread alone.

                    Peace.

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                    • RayAP19
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 2668

                      #190
                      Re: I Have Completely Fixed Every Problem With CPU Play/Assoc Stats/PITP/Shots Off Dr

                      LOL what?

                      What's wrong with changing player ratings?

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                      • Joey P
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 686

                        #191
                        Re: I Have Completely Fixed Every Problem With CPU Play/Assoc Stats/PITP/Shots Off Dr

                        Sucks, if you ask me. No one is on the same page, ever.

                        Your Ray Allen and my Ray Allen will be different.

                        I'll have the OG Ray Allen, you guys will have the Bizarro Ray Allen.

                        Thanks again Goon Squad, Im on the right path to happiness til 2k10.

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                        • gtm
                          M*t*l F*r*v*r
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 3946

                          #192
                          Re: I Have Completely Fixed Every Problem With CPU Play/Assoc Stats/PITP/Shots Off Dr

                          Originally posted by sheva07
                          i'm just fixing the last stuff..hope to post sliders and coach profiles soon.

                          I am so ready for your complete set.
                          CLICK ME==> NY Jets Dynasty

                          CLICK ME==> NY Mets Dynasty Page

                          I'm the only person on the planet that says sports games AI should be tested in cpu/cpu mode

                          U.S. Navy Veteran (Disabled Vet)

                          "Life, Liberty, And Pursuit Of All Who Threaten It"

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                          • sirjam
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 3535

                            #193
                            Re: I Have Completely Fixed Every Problem With CPU Play/Assoc Stats/PITP/Shots Off Dr

                            Originally posted by RayAP19
                            You really think that raising a certain attribute will affect how they play? Can anyone verify this? I'll test it when I get home
                            Yes I can verify it works. At least it does for Kobe.

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                            • STLRams
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 2847

                              #194
                              Re: I Have Completely Fixed Every Problem With CPU Play/Assoc Stats/PITP/Shots Off Dr

                              Originally posted by gtm
                              I am so ready for your complete set.

                              Same here I'm ready to see his team sets also.

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                              • RayAP19
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 2668

                                #195
                                Re: I Have Completely Fixed Every Problem With CPU Play/Assoc Stats/PITP/Shots Off Dr

                                I'm startin to think that maybe the way I play defense is the reason I don't see a lot of jumpers off the dribble.



                                If you pause the video at around 4:58 or 4:59 like I did here, you see a pretty good indication of how I play defense on most players. I don't really smother players like Artest or Bowen, but I play them more close than loose.

                                It seems to me that some (maybe most) jumpers off the dribble IRL are the result of the defense playing back slightly and almost baiting the ballhandler into a jumper.

                                I'll try to loosen my defense the next time I play.

                                And here's an interesting poll for people who have tested these sliders and have had success with the CPU shooting jumpers off the dribble.

                                Would you say you play your defense tighter, looser or roughly the same as in the image above?

                                EDIT:



                                I took this image from Game 7 of the ECSF last year, and the first play of the game was Pierce isolated against LeBron, and as you can see, LeBron is playing roughly the same distance off of Pierce as I was in the 2K9 image. Pierce, however, drove and pulled up for a jumper in the real game, as opposed to driving and kicking it to a not-quite-open Glen Davis as he did in my game of 2K9.

                                Here's another screen from the very next play. Pierce had used a screen from the elbow (behind the three-point line) and LeBron went underneath it.



                                Ilgauskas is kinda in the way, but I think you can see where Pierce is and where LeBron is. Once again, Pierce pulled up for the jump shot, but this time he was given room.

                                So maybe it is me, maybe it's not. I have edits to do and like I said, I'll try to loosen my defense a little bit, but in hindsight, that may not necessarily be the problem.

                                I'm doing way too much research on this. Boredom sucks.
                                Last edited by RayAP19; 04-18-2009, 06:16 PM.

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