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  • NumberOneRB
    MVP
    • Jul 2002
    • 1113

    #586
    Re: NBA 2K10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

    Quick impressions:

    (+) The closeup graphics are a thing to behold. The skin textures they picked for this game are quite incredible. I am a bit disappointed that the graphics don't seem to stand out as much during the actual gameplay though.

    (+) I love how the CPU plays a lot like a human. They were great at finding the open man and even passing out of a contested layup when they sensed the double team. REALLY caught me off guard just how human-like they play when they see a wide open man. Its also great to see players play like themselves; I loved watching kobe post his man regularly around the perimeter and try to get his fadeaway off.

    (+) The emotion in the player faces is quite natural, and although it can sometimes make the players look a bit weird (and inaccurate in resemblance) overall it is a really nice touch.

    (+) Finally saw some actual help defense. It was something that I didnt' necessarily see after the first couple play-throughs of the demo, but after a good deal of games I started to notice it more.

    (-) I still see a bit too much sliding/mario running for my tastes. It appears that 2K decided to compensate in order to improve the overall smoothness of the animations. The animations are definitely some of the smoothest I've seen in a basketball game, but it comes at the expense of some very obvious sliding which can take a bit away from the immersion of the game.

    (-) Still way too many successful errant passes. It may have something to do with the diffculty setting (anyone know what it is?), but I was disappointed to see so many bad passes being pulled off and not being tipped/intercepted by the defense. I want to see the CPU make me pay greatly for making such careless throws and I still dont' see enough of it, which brings me to my next issue:

    (-) Still too many PITP. Because the CPU defense doesn't make you pay enough for errant passes and/or dribbling too much in the paint, you're given way too much leeway in the paint to do most of your scoring damage. This results in very high team FG%s that once again seem like they will be a big problem like previous iterations. We shouldn't have to do such extensive (and creative) slider settings in order to stop both our teams from shooting well over 50% from the field every game.

    (-) This may be a minor nit-pick, but I still believe 2K should think about overhauling their uniform models next year. The player models in general are fine and in good proportion, but the way the jersey models in particular are modeled makes the players look a bit too boxy/bloated. Also, the way the jerseys move can be a bit unnatural and give off a foily/paper-like constitution.
    Last edited by NumberOneRB; 09-30-2009, 02:48 PM.

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    • FamousAtticus
      Rookie
      • Mar 2009
      • 187

      #587
      Re: NBA 2K10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

      Originally posted by adobo24
      - Little bit more difficult to get paint points if congested w/ bigs. This allows cheesing to be more toned down.

      - Post moves have changed, right stick is used for faking which way you want to go I believe.

      - Stealing is harder just a bit, trying to anticipate passes but missed alot. I just need to get the timing down.

      - Putback dunks occur more during the demo.

      - Nelson was lobbing to D12 alot during the demo.

      - There were a couple of block animations that were nice, I was on a breakaway with VC and I had to change my shot because Fisher came in and helped then all of the sudden, Kobe came in out of nowhere and swatted the ball out of bounds.

      - Bynum's vertical is like 2 inches, barely gets off the ground for a dunk.

      - Gasol will screen alot, like in real life.

      Probably forgetting more, but goodnight for now.
      Well...

      Jameer does lob alot to DH12 in real-life. I've been a Magic season ticket holder for 8 years now and I can tell you that Jameer looks to him for a lob atleast 3 times a quarter depending on their oponent(Bynum has no ups). So on that aspect its 100% accurate.

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      • alecpierre
        Rookie
        • Sep 2009
        • 3

        #588
        anyone know how the lean into foul works(the one dwade loves doing) because i get it to work everytime whenever the computer jumps. And that was a huge problem in the later ages of 2k9 ! Im mean really that was really a game breaker

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        • Nodima
          Pro
          • Oct 2007
          • 972

          #589
          Re: NBA 2K10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)



          1:40 - 2:00


          !!!!

          PSN better get this tomorrow night!

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          • FadeEmAll
            Banned
            • Dec 2008
            • 880

            #590
            Re: NBA 2K10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

            Originally posted by Bornindamecca
            ....

            You can't call plays in the demo.

            Can't stress that enough. Without being able to make coaching adjustments or call plays, a lot of the spacing and rotations you see are due to the lack of settings in this really small file. Less than half a gig. 300 megs of that is probably just the crowd


            And for the rest of you....

            I can't believe you're crying about the percentages of the CPU. It's so easy to stop them it's ridiculous. I had just pulled an all-nighter and was talking on XBL when I first tried it, but now that the game has my full coffee-powered attention, I held the CPU to 25% shooting. Easily.

            I don't know what the hell kind of defense OS is playing, but some of the comments I've seen regarding both games are really off. The CPU in the 2k10 demo is not making ANY shots they shouldn't be making. Put a hand in their face and they'll miss the jumper. Get a body on Dwight and he won't dunk on you. Stay in front of your man and he won't get to the basket.

            The cutting only happens when your teammate AI misses an assignment, but if you make some minor adjustments at the beginning of every play, they won't do that. I could be wrong, but I seriously feel a lot of the AI defense issues have to do with not having coaching/pressure settings. Or being able to call a zone for that matter, lol. Because we can't call plays in the demo.


            See this is one of the few posts that actually makes sense when it comes to evaluating a demo. Most people will come here and read "Computer shoots too high a %" dude the D sucks", and a lot of readers will take it as gospel because intelligent posts like the one quoted above are drowned out. If you can't shut down the computer on this low level it ain't the game, you are just not good. Not to mention YOU CAN'T CALL PLAYS, so we don't how the D can adjust. It's like all the people complaining the computer shoots too good on Hall of Fame level or play Madden and complain the computer is completing a lot of passes on all-Madden lvl. If you don't have a basic understanding of how video game ratings work (as related to difficulty" you shouldn't be trying to drop knowledge.

            It's a DEMO make sure you know what you are evaluating....
            Last edited by FadeEmAll; 09-30-2009, 03:56 PM.

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            • Behindshadows
              CEO - BSG Network
              • Nov 2004
              • 8053

              #591
              Re: NBA 2K10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

              Originally posted by Court_vision
              Damm...

              Between you and Will (WTF) not liking the demo much...I am officially starting to get a bit concerned.
              I'm not liking it either and I'll show you why soon! Personally I can even play it without seeing 2k9. It's just too much like 2k9 if not exact! With DC's gameplay tweaks, too many alley-oops and 3 pointers. And the overall gameplay is just stale to me now!

              The separation in differences over the years between 2k7, 2k8, and 2k9. Made those games in all respects better than the next. But when you play this 2k10, the appearance alone turns you away, it's just looks like 2k9.

              But yeah I'm not diggin this demo or the game overall.

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              • FadeEmAll
                Banned
                • Dec 2008
                • 880

                #592
                Re: NBA 2K10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                Originally posted by Behindshadows
                I'm not liking it either and I'll show you why soon! Personally I can even play it without seeing 2k9. It's just too much like 2k9 if not exact! With DC's gameplay tweaks, too many alley-oops and 3 pointers. And the overall gameplay is just stale to me now!

                The separation in differences over the years between 2k7, 2k8, and 2k9. Made those games in all respects better than the next. But when you play this 2k10, the appearance alone turns you away, it's just looks like 2k9.

                But yeah I'm not diggin this demo or the game overall.
                See man, I'm not trying to call you out, but I saw you posting a few days ago on how the commentary sold you on the game and you were digging the improvements. Now you are saying you aren;t digging the demo or the game. so which is it? ARe you impressed with the commentary and hyped or are you not digging it. You seem to be torn between trying to keep it real (enjoying the game) or represent for the other squad (can't cay other game here).

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                • CoHouse2814
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 377

                  #593
                  Re: NBA 2K10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                  i like how the announcers actually knows what day is it when the pre-intro starts out. thats hot IMO

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                  • Con-Con
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 185

                    #594
                    Re: NBA 2K10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                    It's funny how people are all of the sudden hating on 2K10 when two or three weeks ago most of the pessimistic posters now were loving the Draft Combine. Guys, its a demo, and not just any demo, but a demo that has been stripped of most of its best qualities. Why? I dunno, but I do know that what I see in the demo is gonna be alot different when I get the final build, if indeed it is an upgraded version of DC.
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                    • Behindshadows
                      CEO - BSG Network
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 8053

                      #595
                      Re: NBA 2K10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                      Originally posted by FadeEmAll
                      See man, I'm not trying to call you out, but I saw you posting a few days ago on how the commentary sold you on the game and you were digging the improvements. Now you are saying you aren;t digging the demo or the game. so which is it? ARe you impressed with the commentary and hyped or are you not digging it. You seem to be torn between trying to keep it real (enjoying the game) or represent for the other squad (can't cay other game here).
                      Personally you can't call me out, because I was sold on the commentary, but after actually playing the game, it's terrible to me and too much of the same. I just went and refunded my $100 collector's edition, it's not worth it. I can get a Kobe McFarlane figure and create my own locker and update the rosters on 2k9 and save $88.

                      Sorry, commentary alone with the same feel of a game won't win my purchase, I have the right to change my opinion or mind, since it is my money. And personally I am not feeling this game!

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                      • ai2k2
                        Pro
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 798

                        #596
                        Re: NBA 2K10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                        After playing multiple games of the demo. I've concluded that 2k is still extremely frustrating to control. It feels like I'm fighting the controller rather than playing a video game. I don't know maybe its just me. A lot has to be re worked. The game is solid, just the framework that runs everything isn't. Just my opinion, some of you guys maybe are enjoying it. I'm trying it but that one thing is stopping me. I don't see the 9, 000 new animations and things just feel like 2k9. I was seriously hoping for better. Maybe next yr.

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                        • Stumbleweed
                          Livin' the dream
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 6279

                          #597
                          Re: NBA 2K10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                          Originally posted by FadeEmAll
                          See man, I'm not trying to call you out, but I saw you posting a few days ago on how the commentary sold you on the game and you were digging the improvements. Now you are saying you aren;t digging the demo or the game. so which is it? ARe you impressed with the commentary and hyped or are you not digging it. You seem to be torn between trying to keep it real (enjoying the game) or represent for the other squad (can't cay other game here).
                          Well since the commentary is off for the demo, it's not giving us the full presentation package. I am over-the-moon with what I've heard of the commentary so far, but the demo had none of that, which is honestly part of the reason I wasn't feeling it. Most of my complaints are gameplay-based, but that takes away from the experience. I knew it going in, but still, they did so much work to the presentation, that turning it off for the demo takes some of the game's appeal away, especially for someone like me who didn't love 2K9... the commentary is probably the most stark and noticeable improvement to the game this year.

                          The things I'm most looking forward to in 2K10 are My Player and listening to the commentary during NBA Today/Association games. None of those things were in the demo... that's not 2K's fault really (commentary takes space and they want a nice sleek demo file), but it contributed to my dislike for the demo, and I think BShadows is probably in the same boat in that regard.

                          Just my .02 on that... don't let me speak for you, BShadows. I just don't think what he said earlier and what he said now are incompatible.
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                          • Pared
                            Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 39337

                            #598
                            Re: NBA 2K10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                            You guys need to keep your posts focused on impressions, not each other.

                            The warnings are obviously not working. If people find themselves spending a few weeks away from the boards, don't be surprised.
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                            • The 24th Letter
                              ERA
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 39373

                              #599
                              Re: NBA 2K10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                              @ pared...I just wish we could weed out the people that had no intention whatsoever of enjoying the game in the first place. Getting old man.

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                              • ProfessaPackMan
                                Bamma
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 63852

                                #600
                                Re: NBA 2K10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                                One game's demo getting the benefit of the doubt over the other? Why am I not surprised?

                                People judging a full game that they don't even have yet off of a demo? Why am I not surprised? But then again, nothing really surprises me on OS anymore, especially in the Live or 2K Forums.

                                Played the demo at a friend of mines house last night and Im still in a "wait and see mode" because there wasnt really much I could take away from this demo and there really wasnt much I could nitpick(then again im not the nitpicking type like others are)There were some things I like in the demo and there was some things that I obviously didn't like(Alley Oop Mania 25)but I also came with the mindset that it is only a demo and that there were going to be some issues with. I also came in with the mindset from reading impressions from a few respected posters on here who have the final version of the game and show no bias towards the other company that the final product of the game isnt nothing like the demo so I shouldn't expect to see the same issues im seeing here once I tweak these sliders.

                                So overall, my expectation hasn't really changed just because of this demo just like it hadn't changed when I read all those previews on here.
                                #RespectTheCulture

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