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  • Tomba
    TOMBA IS ONLINE
    • Sep 2006
    • 8908

    #76
    Re: People with frame rate issues

    Pared Yes! It is the turbo button. You think there's a way to turn off that meter? Thanks for the reply amoungst all the heat!
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    • BroMontana82
      Support Sim
      • Nov 2004
      • 2225

      #77
      Re: People with frame rate issues

      Here's what I posted over on the 2k forum and my take on the problem:

      System: xbox360
      Offline or Online: Both but I want to address offline since this is where I really encounter problems
      Camera Angles: 2k, Broadcast (and others)
      Stadiums / Arenas: Most, but some bad ones are Philadelphia, Denver, Dallas, Cleveland, Orlando

      Ron,

      First of all, I am seeing considerable issues using both the Broadcast Cam and the 2k Cam. Major lag occurs when you in-bounds the ball, take the ball into the paint (unless you turn Key Zoom off), before you get inside the 3 point line, and when you're taking the first FT (still a problem!!!). You can do a combination of things with minimal presentation turned on like the game ticker and still find frame-rate problems. I have tried various zoom options and camera angles (every single zoom / angle combo. for the 2k Cam specifically) so here is what I think the problem is regarding the frame-rate.

      There is simply way too much going on for your game engine to handle. With the players, dynamic crowd, lighting, and everything else on the screen, the game or 360 hardware simply can't process everything at a smooth 60 FPS. It's like trying to run 10 programs on a computer from the 90's. Not happening.

      1. You could get rid of the different or "cinematic angles" during the first FT. I'd rather be able to shoot a FT with the same camera angle I'm using for both shots anyways. In the very least, this would bring consistency for any lag still present. But the second FT does not have lag EVER and this view is in the 2k angle.

      2. The crowd animations are probably the root problem. I know people like the crowd dynamics and the same guy constantly walking the aisles, but unfortunately I think you need less going on in the ccrowd and taking up "bandwidth" so to speak to have a better game. I would ask the developers how memory or performance the crowd constantly walking up and down the aisles is taking. I love the presentation. Don't get me wrong, but presentation isn't worth it when it's dragging down actual game-play. I think you need to fix this issue even if it comes at the expense of reducing some of this dynamic presentation.

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      • domidomdomz
        MVP
        • Oct 2008
        • 1133

        #78
        Re: People with frame rate issues

        do the framerate issues happen when you lessen the advance video settings? like turning the crowd animations off, decreasing player quality and the like?
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        • EvanRG
          Pro
          • Mar 2009
          • 772

          #79
          Re: People with frame rate issues

          This sounds ridiculous, but after my first game that was unplayable at the Q -- I've played three more games since then including the same match up as my first game and have had no noticible frame rate issues...

          All I have done is downloaded to the HD. Now, I won't say that there aren't minor slowdowns in some cut-scenes or when the camera switches sides, but the paint slowdown and other gameplay related slowdowns are gone for me.

          Hopefully we will get an official patch to clean up all issues but as it stands my game is soo addictive right now.

          Also, on a side note, my brother also has a 360 and has had no issues from the get go.

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          • BroMontana82
            Support Sim
            • Nov 2004
            • 2225

            #80
            Re: People with frame rate issues

            Originally posted by domidomdomz
            do the framerate issues happen when you lessen the advance video settings? like turning the crowd animations off, decreasing player quality and the like?
            how do you do this stuff? video options?

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            • jewelz1132
              MVP
              • Jun 2003
              • 1353

              #81
              Re: People with frame rate issues

              I'm playing a game in teh celtics arena and the framerate issues are happening when the spinning spotlights wont turn off while the game is going

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              • blad3runner
                Rookie
                • Sep 2008
                • 126

                #82
                Re: People with frame rate issues

                There really is no excuse for this. 2k should really optimize the game properly from the get go. How did something like this get past them? This obviously proves they do not test the game before releasing.

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                • Jgainsey
                  I can't feel it
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 3362

                  #83
                  Re: People with frame rate issues

                  Are these problems mainly with the 360 version? I was thinking about picking this up for ps3 in a few days, but I'm pretty anal when it comes to framerate problems. If some ps3 people could confirm or deny this for me I'd appreciate it.
                  Now, more than ever

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                  • blad3runner
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 126

                    #84
                    Re: People with frame rate issues

                    Originally posted by getinthevan87
                    Are these problems mainly with the 360 version? I was thinking about picking this up for ps3 in a few days, but I'm pretty anal when it comes to framerate problems. If some ps3 people could confirm or deny this for me I'd appreciate it.

                    I will be able to confirm later today :wink:

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                    • jewelz1132
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 1353

                      #85
                      Re: People with frame rate issues

                      yeah just played another game and the framerate gets ridiculous when the spotlights don't cut off after timeouts or the beginning of halves...This is on the 360 version

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                      • instantpop
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 374

                        #86
                        Re: People with frame rate issues

                        Originally posted by getinthevan87
                        Are these problems mainly with the 360 version? I was thinking about picking this up for ps3 in a few days, but I'm pretty anal when it comes to framerate problems. If some ps3 people could confirm or deny this for me I'd appreciate it.
                        Problem is DEFINITELY there on the PS3 as well. I just had to turn it off because the camera jitter caused by the lag made me sea-sick. Some arenas are worse than others, but the lag is still prevalent. If you're picky about it, it'll be even worse.

                        I didn't notice the lag in 2K9. I can't play 2K10 in its current state because it makes me nauseous.

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                        • Len B
                          Rookie
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 17

                          #87
                          Re: People with frame rate issues

                          Framerate issues are only happening on action camera for me.

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                          • mojomojo
                            Rookie
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 19

                            #88
                            Re: People with frame rate issues

                            I haven't bought my copy yet, just played the demo. I read that you can tweak the zoom of the camera to avoid the problem. But I am a bit concern about it after reading in a review about the framerate issue. Should I be worried?
                            <Mojo>

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                            • Eddie1967
                              Against The Crowd!
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 2405

                              #89
                              Re: People with frame rate issues

                              I guess I must be mighty lucky, because I have not seen one single frame rate issue in any arena playing on my 360. Hopefully something can be done for the rest of you guys.
                              Originally posted by jim416
                              You are the 2k Police. :)

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                              • Greene_Flash03
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2005
                                • 2118

                                #90
                                Re: People with frame rate issues

                                ARGH!!! This is really annoying! I played 2 games in my association framerate drops really bad! Broadcast view/key zoom off/360!!!

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