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  • D_Money
    Banned
    • May 2003
    • 303

    #16
    Re: DEFENSE... YES!!!! CONTINUED BY THE SANDMAN

    Originally posted by sandman0823
    I know what the defensive assist does. I only have it at 50 percent I am playing with all the default settings on superstar and trust me it works. Push the right stick to the left and hold it while defending the ball handler when the ball handler moves use move with the left stick. When you do not use it compared to using it you will see that the ball handler will immediately attack you to the basket when you use the right stick d the computer ai will probe to find an angel. Remember to stop movement when the ball handler stops.
    What view do you play on? I assume 'absolute' should mean the same whatever view but maybe it's somewhat different depending on the view.

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    • cj54
      Rookie
      • Dec 2009
      • 254

      #17
      Re: DEFENSE... YES!!!! CONTINUED BY THE SANDMAN

      I have not noticed a difference between the left trigger and right stick defense...

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      • stizz
        MVP
        • Sep 2006
        • 1718

        #18
        Re: DEFENSE... YES!!!! CONTINUED BY THE SANDMAN

        Yeah no go here as well.

        Does it activate a defensive pose or something? If it does, could someone who can get it to work upload a short vid activating then deactivating the pose a couple of times.

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        • sandman0823
          Rookie
          • Apr 2009
          • 91

          #19
          Re: DEFENSE... YES!!!! CONTINUED BY THE SANDMAN

          Originally posted by stizz
          Yeah no go here as well.

          Does it activate a defensive pose or something? If it does, could someone who can get it to work upload a short vid activating then deactivating the pose a couple of times.
          Ok, here we go try this. Hold the right stick to the left when defending the ball handler. When the ball handler moves continue to hold the right stick to the left and push the left stick into the ball handler shadowing his every move. I just held AI on superstar to a 34% shooting outing. It works. I am trying to get some video up for you guys. Leave the left trigger alone for right now until you get this down. IT WORKS... Private msg me your phone number if necessary and I will call you and try to explain. This is how confident I am about this.

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          • sandman0823
            Rookie
            • Apr 2009
            • 91

            #20
            Re: DEFENSE... YES!!!! CONTINUED BY THE SANDMAN

            Originally posted by sambf12
            and that's why you're seeing what you are. i have tried assist at 0, 50, and 100. no difference. I have tried doing this while using the L trigger and without it. in all of these situations, the CPU will make the user controlled defender go into a stance when you get close to the ball handler. and in both situations, the ball handler attacks or doesn't attack in the same way.
            No. Listen, it works. Hold the right stick to the left while attempting to defend the ball handler. When the ball handler is moving push and hold the left stick into the ball handler shadowing his every move in conjunction with the right stick being held down to the left.

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            • BroMontana82
              Support Sim
              • Nov 2004
              • 2225

              #21
              Re: DEFENSE... YES!!!! CONTINUED BY THE SANDMAN

              Originally posted by sandman0823
              No. Listen, it works. Hold the right stick to the left while attempting to defend the ball handler. When the ball handler is moving push and hold the left stick into the ball handler shadowing his every move in conjunction with the right stick being held down to the left.
              no it doesn't. what you are seeing when you push the left stick to run into the guy to shadow his moves, is an automatically triggered animation. i can do this trying your method and just playing regular D. this animation is triggered no matter what you do when you run into the ball handler. i want to see some videos as well.

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              • Crossover1
                MVP
                • Feb 2009
                • 1925

                #22
                Re: DEFENSE... YES!!!! CONTINUED BY THE SANDMAN

                Samb,

                He's talking about another animation that the cpu does when guarding your ball handler. It's different because it stops the easy drives to the basket when properly done, but I need to get a hang of it because I'm still learning how to defend on the ball.
                'Only The Strong Survive'

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                • BroMontana82
                  Support Sim
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 2225

                  #23
                  Re: DEFENSE... YES!!!! CONTINUED BY THE SANDMAN

                  Originally posted by Crossover1
                  Samb,

                  He's talking about another animation that the cpu does when guarding your ball handler. It's different because it stops the easy drives to the basket when properly done, but I need to get a hang of it because I'm still learning how to defend on the ball.
                  ok i'd love to see it if he can get some videos up but i haven't been able to initiate any sort of animation. in terms of stopping the drive, i have no problem just using the aggressive d (LT) and that triggers all sorts of animations,

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                  • sirjam
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 3535

                    #24
                    Re: DEFENSE... YES!!!! CONTINUED BY THE SANDMAN

                    Originally posted by sambf12
                    ok i'd love to see it if he can get some videos up but i haven't been able to initiate any sort of animation. in terms of stopping the drive, i have no problem just using the aggressive d (LT) and that triggers all sorts of animations,
                    It seems to me that when using it the way described with the LT, you have way more control of your d slides. An yes if you keep using the r stick on the drive there will b a specific animation that is triggered. Especially in the paint, there are alot there. Also the help thing works really well, especially if you get beat off the dribble. I would to like to see a video to though.

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                    • Melman
                      GOAT
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 209

                      #25
                      Re: DEFENSE... YES!!!! CONTINUED BY THE SANDMAN

                      Yeah at this point I think we all need to see some videos of this....I have tried this (changing my controls to Absolute) I prolly need more practice....My defense was a little better...not sure if its jus because of this or because i have really been working on my defense doing the drills and what not....I did chg my defense assist to 100 so im not sure if that has made it better...(prolly more so with cpu AI than anything as far as getting more deflections) I did notice i got a double team animation when i moved the stick to the right when the player was guarding in the corners and post area....but im still looking at it to see if help comes 100% of the time when holding to the Right stick to the right....I think i noticed the shuffle of footwork (defensive stance) not sure if this is just because of this or because i chg'd to absolute.....So all in all i could not tell the difference if moving the stick to the left actually triggers an animation or not. but i do see a better defense animation.....and I did lock my friend up last night, lol beat him by 20......Sandman if you could just upload some videos to the 2k website to clear this up much appreciated
                      Yeah so in summation I don't know who you racing I'm already at the finish line with the flag waving, c'mon!

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                      • rspencer86
                        MIB Crew
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 8806

                        #26
                        Re: DEFENSE... YES!!!! CONTINUED BY THE SANDMAN

                        If Sandman doesn't post videos up I might make one and try to have it up sometime tonight.
                        Ryan Spencer

                        University of Missouri '09
                        Twitter: @RyanASpencer

                        Royals / Chiefs / Kings / Mizzou / Sporting KC


                        PSN: MizzouTigerrr
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                        • a walrus
                          Rookie
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 69

                          #27
                          Re: DEFENSE... YES!!!! CONTINUED BY THE SANDMAN

                          I have noticed :Your defensive player will stay in a crouched position.Also the defensive players lateral movement will slowdown, when holding the left sitck of course.Holding/tapping the left trigger will cause the defensive player to body up while maintaing the crouching /methodical movement.My defensive assist is at 10 moving it up to 100 I experianced little to no control of this feature.The change in playing defense is a suttle one , but highly affective.Its a option that works ....good find.Pressing up on the left will allow you to go for a steal pressing down will raise your hands in a stationary position.

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                          • coldkevin
                            Rookie
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 369

                            #28
                            Re: DEFENSE... YES!!!! CONTINUED BY THE SANDMAN

                            wow....what a difference!!!!

                            I played Orlando vs Lakers (me) with sandman sets: superstar, absolute right stick, default sliders, doing all he said to do and wow....in the first qrt Orlando outscored me 40-7, 70% from the field and 7/8 from 3pt line.....i thought "ok....maybe it's just me" so i played a second match, Jazz (me) vs Hornets and in the first qrt they only scored 37 points, 70% from the field again and 5/6 from outside....what i can say...a big difference!!!!


                            Come on.......

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                            • a walrus
                              Rookie
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 69

                              #29
                              Re: DEFENSE... YES!!!! CONTINUED BY THE SANDMAN

                              Originally posted by coldkevin
                              wow....what a difference!!!!

                              I played Orlando vs Lakers (me) with sandman sets: superstar, absolute right stick, default sliders, doing all he said to do and wow....in the first qrt Orlando outscored me 40-7, 70% from the field and 7/8 from 3pt line.....i thought "ok....maybe it's just me" so i played a second match, Jazz (me) vs Hornets and in the first qrt they only scored 37 points, 70% from the field again and 5/6 from outside....what i can say...a big difference!!!!


                              Come on.......
                              Possibly your not at that superstar level.Pared sliders, game on pro.Cold Kevin to slightly less cold Kevin.

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                              • coldkevin
                                Rookie
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 369

                                #30
                                Re: DEFENSE... YES!!!! CONTINUED BY THE SANDMAN

                                Originally posted by a walrus
                                Possibly your not at that superstar level.Pared sliders, game on pro.Cold Kevin to slightly less cold Kevin.
                                done...orlando vs lakers, they won by 50! sometimes when i read other guys posts seems like i'm not playing the same game, i just realized i'm not capable to defend this year, at any level, with any sliders and using any kind of tips, and it's absolutely insane since i play this f*****g game from day one!
                                I really appreciate the hard work guys are doing to make this game better, really , but nothing works for me.

                                i'd like to play a bball game this year but i'm still missed in action....and i'm going crazy for this!

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