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  • youvalss
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    • Feb 2007
    • 16601

    #46
    Re: 2K9 vs. 2K10

    2K4 had NO POST-UP GAME whatsoever. The Isomotion was horrible. The ugly 2K5 Isomotion was pure gold compared to 2K4's. I could never understand why 2K3 had hundreds of animations, while 2K4 had about 50 total (and I'm being generous).
    The only thing I liked about 2K4 was the graphics. I guess the development team spent most of the time on the graphics and the ESPN layouts. Too bad they forgot the gameplay...
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    • GatorChomp2345
      Banned
      • Aug 2009
      • 269

      #47
      Re: 2K9 vs. 2K10

      So about that 2k8 love? lol

      any rosters or sliders out?

      Why so you think of it so highly?

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      • Pared
        Legen - WAIT FOR IT
        • Feb 2003
        • 39337

        #48
        Re: 2K9 vs. 2K10

        Originally posted by GatorChomp2345
        So there seems to be a lot of 2k8 love in here. To you guys what makes 2k8 so special?
        People give 2k8 more credit than they would ever care to admit.

        It had much of the same problems people bitch today about, like spacing issues and help defense rotations.

        They're just in love with the past. Happens with all games where people reminisce and make a game legendary based upon what they THINK they remember.

        While 2k8 was great, it was not the be-all some would make it. Go back and read some threads about it and you'd see.
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        • jeebs9
          Fear is the Unknown
          • Oct 2008
          • 47568

          #49
          Re: 2K9 vs. 2K10

          ^^Bingo!!^^
          Hands Down....Man Down - 2k9 memories
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          • tpe14
            Rookie
            • Apr 2010
            • 491

            #50
            Re: 2K9 vs. 2K10

            I didn't buy 2k4 but some people said it is the worst in the 2k series. Can
            someone explain how is it that bad?
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            • youvalss
              ******
              • Feb 2007
              • 16601

              #51
              Re: 2K9 vs. 2K10

              Originally posted by tpe14
              I didn't buy 2k4 but some people said it is the worst in the 2k series. Can
              someone explain how is it that bad?
              I'll say again what I said here earlier:

              1. No post-up game whatsoever.
              2. Only several dozens of animations (and I'm being extremely generous).
              3. Arcadish as hell - you could dunk from the free-throw line almost at will.
              4. Horrible horrible Isomotion that lead to charging most of the time.
              5. Bad commentary.
              6. No tactics at all.

              The only bright spot was the graphics and the ESPN implementation. I guess 2K put all the effort into the graphics/presentation and gave up the gameplay.
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              • Altimus
                Chelsea, Assemble!
                • Nov 2004
                • 27283

                #52
                Re: 2K9 vs. 2K10

                Originally posted by Pared
                People give 2k8 more credit than they would ever care to admit.

                It had much of the same problems people bitch today about, like spacing issues and help defense rotations.

                They're just in love with the past. Happens with all games where people reminisce and make a game legendary based upon what they THINK they remember.

                While 2k8 was great, it was not the be-all some would make it. Go back and read some threads about it and you'd see.
                Or just go pop it in and compare.

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                • Kaanyr Vhok
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 2248

                  #53
                  Re: 2K9 vs. 2K10

                  2k4 represented a turn that hasn't been righted yet. 2k3 was the best player vs player game of the series. There was less exploits in 2k3 than any other game in the series.

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                  • HighFlyinkilla
                    Rookie
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 24

                    #54
                    Re: 2K9 vs. 2K10

                    Originally posted by youvalss


                    I guess the guys at 2K think that 2K7 was the best...
                    It was. You had total control over your players, could control the release of your shots and instant controller response. Great all around gameplay compared to the boats you have to control now. Great graphics. Thats why I still play 2k7 online, just need some roster updates. Total shot control really makes the game fun to play. The amazing thing is after all the games I played I can still create new shots that I never saw before. 2k8's graphics are pretty ugly compared to 2k7. Best all around BBall game of the next gen.
                    Last edited by HighFlyinkilla; 06-09-2010, 11:37 PM.

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                    • youvalss
                      ******
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 16601

                      #55
                      Re: 2K9 vs. 2K10

                      I started playing 2K7 for the old Xbox. Such a fun game and, in my opinion, the best for the last gen (except for the lay-in animations).
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                      • ehh
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 28962

                        #56
                        Re: 2K9 vs. 2K10

                        2K10 easily, though I still don't care for either of the last two 2K games. 2K9 was just a disaster on so many levels. That's probably the most disappointing sports game of my life, visually it improved from 2K8 and the pre-release videos looked so good but once I got my hands on the game - damn. 2K10 is better but still has the same issues that has plagued the series for years and the control is dreadful. There isn't a sports game out there that has worse control than 2K10. It's too frustrating for me to play.

                        I still play 2K8 solely for the control (and the classic roster project) and it's the only NBA2K game I currently own. It has a ton of the same issues that 2K* has/had, but at least I can control the action and it's not a million canned animations (just a thousand). The spacing and rotations are still doo-doo, my biggest complaint since forever with 2K. NBA2K8 really isn't anything special, I never felt it was that great. It's CH2K8 that set the standard for 2K basketball.
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                        • Pared
                          Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 39337

                          #57
                          Re: 2K9 vs. 2K10

                          Originally posted by ehh
                          It's CH2K8 that set the standard for 2K basketball.
                          That's another game that gets glossed over. If the dynasty mode wasn't so well done, it wouldn't have the life it does today.

                          Gameplay had its own issues as well, including the broken blocking/take charge mechanic.
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                          • tpe14
                            Rookie
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 491

                            #58
                            Re: 2K9 vs. 2K10

                            Originally posted by youvalss
                            I'll say again what I said here earlier:

                            1. No post-up game whatsoever.
                            2. Only several dozens of animations (and I'm being extremely generous).
                            3. Arcadish as hell - you could dunk from the free-throw line almost at will.
                            4. Horrible horrible Isomotion that lead to charging most of the time.
                            5. Bad commentary.
                            6. No tactics at all.

                            The only bright spot was the graphics and the ESPN implementation. I guess 2K put all the effort into the graphics/presentation and gave up the gameplay.
                            Wow. Lucky I didn't waste money on that.
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                            • ehh
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 28962

                              #59
                              Re: 2K9 vs. 2K10

                              Originally posted by Pared
                              That's another game that gets glossed over. If the dynasty mode wasn't so well done, it wouldn't have the life it does today.

                              Gameplay had its own issues as well, including the broken blocking/take charge mechanic.
                              No game is perfect and of course it has plenty of issues. Totally brushing off the best part of the game (legacy mode) is a little ridiculous. It DOES have the best legacy mode which is a big part of WHY it's such a great game.

                              Even if we do remove the legacy mode, it's still the best 2K game. The CPU AI is so much better in CH2K8 than any NBA2K game it's ridiculous. Home court advantage, runs and hot & cold streaks are so well done. Creating plays makes the spacing better than NBA2K8 because you can have guys go exactly where you want them to. Giving the CPU custom playbooks makes them play effeciently and intelligently. Adjusting the player vs game speed and the Help D and Recovery sliders also make the spacing tolerable, though I still don't like the half court game.

                              It is plagued with the same issues that any NBA2K game is, but 2K got more right with CH2K8 than any of their games to date.
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                              • Pared
                                Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 39337

                                #60
                                Re: 2K9 vs. 2K10

                                I'll give you some of that, but the best part of the game wasn't even on the court. That was and still is bothersome to me looking back.

                                But for a college game, I can understand how Dynasty was so huge.
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