The turnovers are a bit ridiculous

[Da_Czar]

Re: The turnovers are a bit ridiculous

michaeljordanjr has a point. I like that you get burned now for going for home run plays, trying to squeeze the ball through multiple defenders but there have been some possessions where I have a clear angle at my big down low yet the pass is off by a mile. Adding more turnovers is fine with me but I find it hard to believe that players can't do a simple pass to someone who you can pretty much say is wide open.

Infamous they have a pass accuracy slider so you may be able to adjust that to your likeing. Also is this happening with great passers also I know that bad passers are suppossed to make more bad passes than good passers but regardless the slider may get you to a happy place concerning the bad passes.

[Phins86]

Re: The turnovers are a bit ridiculous

I think the turnovers are perfect in this game. When in a basketball game are you able to throw cross court passes and passes down the entire court without them being picked off? This is hands down the most realistic basketball game EVER

[Pared]

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This thread is why 2k has never implemented this type of turnover ratio in their game previously.

There were concerns the general public would complain about it being an issue...

....and they were right.

Frustrating for me as a sim gamer.

But make no mistake, it certainly can't be user error here.... right guys?

[infam0us]

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Haha Pared, a lot of us aren't as sim as we thought we were. I think most people think of sim game they just think about playing a sports game where you get the stats to come out proper or you don't see numerous dunks in traffic and things like that. I don't think they fully expected the risk and reward of cross court passes or how hard it really is to thread the needle.

I'm not 100% sure Czar who it was but I was playing with the Grizzlies against the Lakers and it happened to me a couple of times that game. Could of been Mayo, Gay, Young or Allen. I guess it could have been the pass ratings but either way I will definitely be tweaking the sliders. Those turnovers bother me because I feel like I've got good position and its a simple play but the pass is erratic.

[ZoneBlitz]

Re: The turnovers are a bit ridiculous

This thread is why 2k has never implemented this type of turnover ratio in their game previously.

There were concerns the general public would complain about it being an issue...

....and they were right.

Frustrating for me as a sim gamer.

But make no mistake, it certainly can't be user error here.... right guys?

I love it. This game is real basketball. I just think people don't understand the sport. 2k11 rocks!

[Sam Marlowe]

Re: The turnovers are a bit ridiculous

They need to be alot more focused on

[spankdatazz22]

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My bigest problem with passing was I was palying like it was 2k10. after getting use to the game My turnovers are WAY down. No more passing to a guy who is getting fronted or beeing denied the ball. This game is SWEET!!!!!

Same boat. Was turning the ball over a ton initially (Pro/Sim). Still a little high, but for most I can fault myself. Absolutely LOVE this game

[DickDalewood]

Re: The turnovers are a bit ridiculous

This thread is why 2k has never implemented this type of turnover ratio in their game previously.

There were concerns the general public would complain about it being an issue...

....and they were right.

Frustrating for me as a sim gamer.

But make no mistake, it certainly can't be user error here.... right guys?

Lol this is so spot on it's almost not funny. Of course it has to be the games fault... the same goes for missed shots and teams coming back to win in the last quarter. It's NEVER the players fault. To even think so is just blasphemy...

[Whomario]

Re: The turnovers are a bit ridiculous

So is anyone really able to run Pick and Roll Basketball effectively ? I can avoid turning the ball over, but for the life of me i can´t run the Pick & Roll because the defense covers a lot of space and makes a lot of deflections with their back to the ball. Also, i´m not impressed by the spacing in most Pick and Roll plays. Some are good, but most really don´t space the court well.
Also, the big man almost never commits to the ballhandler and the screened player recovers very, very fast.

Also, the CPU doesn´t run very many Pick and Rolls, do they ?

This is with more or less default sliders (on ball D lower, passing ability higher and defensive awareness lower along with a few minot changes for the shooting percentages)

I don´t expect to be able to run it all the time, but a couple clean P&Rs a game would be kind of nice. There´s very little "miscommunication" on defense in the middle where guys miss their assignement or get moved out of position during the P&R.

[Kaanyr Vhok]

Re: The turnovers are a bit ridiculous

Unintended turnovers sting worse than ones you intended to make.

I knew someone was going to go there.

[JWiLL02]

Re: The turnovers are a bit ridiculous

I'm not being a smartass when I ask you this... are you sure total control passing is on?

I had it on, saved my settings, went online and once again, that same bug from last year where my settings get all screwed up is back again.

All of these options were off, including icons while on defense.

Go to your controller settings and check again. I can do what you're saying. Also, don't forget, you can use the RB plus icon and RS option to send the player you want on a run towards open space/away from their defender.

Don't get me wrong Pared, overall I love the passing in this game, and usually it DOES work when I lead a guy left or right out from his defender to create an angle. There's just certain times when they don't respond at all, all I want is for it to be more consistent.

I do have Total Control passing on, but for the purpose of a quick inside out pass, taking control of that guy and moving him manually isn't quite fast enough. A quick icon lead pass left or right is much more practical.

I do think the pass logic could use a bit of work still. Would be nice if guys were just a little smarter when using a lob or bounce pass.

[Pared]

Re: The turnovers are a bit ridiculous

Don't get me wrong Pared, overall I love the passing in this game, and usually it DOES work when I lead a guy left or right out from his defender to create an angle. There's just certain times when they don't respond at all, all I want is for it to be more consistent.

I do have Total Control passing on, but for the purpose of a quick inside out pass, taking control of that guy and moving him manually isn't quite fast enough. A quick icon lead pass left or right is much more practical.

I do think the pass logic could use a bit of work still. Would be nice if guys were just a little smarter when using a lob or bounce pass.

That's a fair shake. I just figured I'd have you check (as someone clarified, I meant icon lead passing) that the bug didn't hit you too.

Haha Pared, a lot of us aren't as sim as we thought we were.

Just to clarify, the part that frustrates me is that they were right, not that this is "an issue."

The only thing I would like to see is more manual control over passing, honestly. There are some other tweaks here or there but I hate not being able to throw a skip pass over a zone defense. Instead my passes typically seem to be low and right through the defense.

If it's a bad pass, make the ball go out of bounds and create a turnover that way, or cause the guy catching to get out of position, not go right into the open arms of the defenders.

[joel0078]

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I love it. This game is real basketball. I just think people don't understand the sport. 2k11 rocks!

Exactly. I laugh at these guys who come on here and talk about how basketball is their life and then speak of all the levels of basketball they've played and how this game is just an abomination of the sport!

Guess what complainers? If you're gonna try to play cheap and cheat the AI with your lazy 2k1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 antics, then you're gonna fail. Don't blame it on the developers, like you're doing. Instead of wasting your time complaining, hit the practice gym and scrimmage. Learn how to run plays. This is not an easy game, even for vets. The fact that it's your own fault and you're the one who failed to change your game play style up doesn't make this a bad game. Lower the sliders, change your game play difficulty, do something besides crying about how unreal this game is. This game is money. If you don't like it, go play live 10 and leave the rest of us alone!

[Pared]

Re: The turnovers are a bit ridiculous

If you don't like it, go play live 10 and leave the rest of us alone!

C'mon guys, no need for this. Let's just stay on topic please.

[joel0078]

Re: The turnovers are a bit ridiculous

C'mon guys, no need for this. Let's just stay on topic please.

Sorry, I'm just sayin!