Ever wondered what you would REALLY be rated in NBA 2k?

[VDusen04]

Re: Ever wondered what you would REALLY be rated in NBA 2k?

Everyone on this board would be rated a 0 in an NBA game since no one has played in the NBA.

The lowest we can be is a 25 (since 2K rates on a 25-100 scale). I'm assuming that's what you meant. I guess we'd have to discover if a 25 rating means "minimal, but still NBA level skill" or "bad skill, regardless of level". I tend to believe a 25 rating means a person is just positively horrible. For instance, a 25 rated free throw shooter would be worse than Ben Wallace. And a 25 midrange shooter would not be able to hit the broad side of a barn, even in practice mode. But I'm going to go give it a look.

My ever-evolving belief now is that amateur players with a solid skill base might register in some areas but lack in more than enough other areas (defense, rebounding, awareness) that the overall rating may still be minimal. And open shooting ability and athletic attributes may carry over. But other things, such as passing even, might not translate well for a lot of us. I personally have nightmares of thinking about myself trying to pass in the NBA. People I learned my whole life should be open, would no longer be so due to the crazy length and anticipation of others. In my own regard I'm picturing a lot of "Oh, there's an open passing lane. . .oh, wow, that was some spectacular closing speed displayed by that defender.'

[VDusen04]

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I've possibly got good news on the "normal guy" rating front. But possibly not. I minimized every single one of my ratings on my own likeness. I then turned my free throw rating to 87 (I don't think 2K's free throw rating directly correlates to a person's actual percentage so I may have overdid it - I mimicked my real percentage). An 87 rated free throw with every other stat at the bear minimum, is nearly enough to push me up a point. I boosted my dunk to 30 (because I can dunk) and that upped me to a 26 overall. A 26 at least! I think even if my 87% free throw doesn't correlate to an 87 rating, there'd still be at least one other category I could raise a little from the minimum. I'm pumped. I feel like (0:31):

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It honestly looks like normal players will register on this game. A fun test may be to take a look at Draft Combine Results (I used 2010 because those players were included in the game by 2K) and have a friend help you run some of the drills to get a ballpark comparison in some aspects. http://www.nbadraft.net/nba-draft-co...m-test-results

Using that link and my own accumulated results, I estimated a middle-ground of sorts. Obviously, rating oneself won't work on a 1:1 scale. For instance, Cole Aldrich inexplicably ran a 3.35 3/4 court sprint. His speed in 2K is 38 I believe. Jordan Crawford ran a 3.37 (two one-hundredths slower than Aldrich). I didn't look, but I bet his speed on 2K is higher than 38. But like I said, it may give you a good idea of where you might stand. Hassan Whiteside ran a 3.54 and DeMarcus Cousins a 3.55. If you're beating those numbers by any amount, there's a real good chance your speed would register well, which again may boost that overall.

I also formed some ratings based on my shooting results (http://www.nbadraft.net/nba-draft-co...-drill-results). Players shoot 25 NBA 3's, 25 college 3's, and 24 mid-ranges off the dribble. I used my college 3's results to help form a midrange rating and my NBA 3's, obviously, to find an NBA 3 ballpark (NBA 3's went about as well for me as expected, which is to say, not very).

[VonD]

Re: Ever wondered what you would REALLY be rated in NBA 2k?

I've possibly got good news on the "normal guy" rating front. But possibly not. I minimized every single one of my ratings on my own likeness. I then turned my free throw rating to 87 (I don't think 2K's free throw rating directly correlates to a person's actual percentage so I may have overdid it - I mimicked my real percentage). An 87 rated free throw with every other stat at the bear minimum, is nearly enough to push me up a point. I boosted my dunk to 30 (because I can dunk) and that upped me to a 26 overall. A 26 at least! I think even if my 87% free throw doesn't correlate to an 87 rating, there'd still be at least one other category I could raise a little from the minimum. I'm pumped. I feel like (0:31):

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FT% = FT rating.

[slimm44]

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Wow. Speak for yourself.

Unless you've played D1 or 2 ball, played overseas, or have played some form of professional basketball, you're kidding yourself if you think you'd do anything against NBA players.

I'm not a bad basketball player, but I'm also not disillusioned enough to think that I would have any skill, displayable in an NBA game, that would put me anywhere near an NBA player.

[VDusen04]

Re: Ever wondered what you would REALLY be rated in NBA 2k?

Unless you've played D1 or 2 ball, played overseas, or have played some form of professional basketball, you're kidding yourself if you think you'd do anything against NBA players.

I'm not a bad basketball player, but I'm also not disillusioned enough to think that I would have any skill, displayable in an NBA game, that would put me anywhere near an NBA player.

I don't think anyone is thinking they'd be able to compete favorably against an NBA player. I haven't really seen any posts that may have suggested as such. There might be more ratings for us to register on than you may have suggested earlier though.

Von D may have just been objecting to your statement that everyone of our ratings would be too low to register in 2K's rating system. I do not find that to be true either, as I have stated in my previous post.

I'm still trying to get a hold on how things work in 2K, but with my mid-range rating set to 25, I made 1 out of 10 perfect release mid-range jumpers from the top of the key in practice mode. My thought is the rating should be increased at least a moderate amount to more accurately reflect what I would be able to do at the top of the key in an empty gym in real life. The top of the key in the NBA would be equivalent to the high school three point line where I'm most often able to hit six or seven out of ten attempts (in a practice situation).

Obviously, the thing I wouldn't be able to account for is how well I'd be able to shoot with an NBA player in my face. Well, I guess that'd be my contested shot rating. There's a contested shot rating, right? I picture that being quite low. But, if I were in an NBA game, spotted up alone on the baseline, and a driving Rajon Rondo were able to draw my defender to him, leaving me open for the 18 footer? I think there's a very good chance I'm hitting that shot, and I think I might be able to have a better chance of hitting it than a guy like Ben Wallace. Therefore, I feel my mid-range rating would be pretty okay, even by 2K standards.

So yes, overall, I'd look like garbage in an NBA game - the worst NBA player ever. But I disagree that it wouldn't be possible to have any displayable skill. If worst came to absolute worst, I'd at least be able to display my free throw shooting skill if I were lucky enough to be fouled. And if I were chasing down a loose ball at half court beside Zydrunas Ilgauskas with nothing but open floor in front of me, I think I could win that race (speed rating > 25) and subsequently dunk (dunk rating > 25).

[VonD]

Re: Ever wondered what you would REALLY be rated in NBA 2k?

Unless you've played D1 or 2 ball, played overseas, or have played some form of professional basketball, you're kidding yourself if you think you'd do anything against NBA players.

You're misinformed; NBA players are not gods. They are very talented basketball players who have been afforded the opportunity to play professionally. There is many a player out there who could compete on the NBA level, but may never get the chance due to their personal situation.

[dukebeatsuncagain]

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My stamina would be like 23.

[VDusen04]

Re: Ever wondered what you would REALLY be rated in NBA 2k?

My stamina would be like 23.

Mine. As. Well. Any good skill ratings I could muster would no doubt be nullified by my lack of NBA level conditioning. I feel like I'm in good shape, but I know instead they'd probably have to play me in 30 second spurts.

[strekedesire]

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Well, I guess that'd be my contested shot rating. There's a contested shot rating, right?

As far as I know, there isn't one right now (for jumpshots), but it could possibly be tied into the shoot in traffic rating.

It really shouldn't be, as a player's ability to shoot in traffic in the paint usually isn't the same as his ability to shoot contested jumpshots. They need to be separate ratings.

[slimm44]

Re: Ever wondered what you would REALLY be rated in NBA 2k?

You're misinformed; NBA players are not gods. They are very talented basketball players who have been afforded the opportunity to play professionally. There is many a player out there who could compete on the NBA level, but may never get the chance due to their personal situation.

Never have I thought or inferred I thought they were gods, and we're going to have to agree to disagree. With thousands of players who have played their entire lives, went to the camps, played AAU, put in countless hours in the gym, and have the size that most other people don't have not being able to make it into the NBA, along with the best streetball players in the world not being able to make it, and with the thousands of professional players around the world who will never be good enough to make it in the NBA, I don't think it's just that there are a select few who have been afforded the opportunity to play. It's that only a select few are good enough to make it into the league. Pretty sure that out of the few thousand who are registered at OS, maybe .1% of us, AT MOST, would even have a discernible skill that could be used on a court with 9 other NBA players and would register us a rating that would be comparable to any player on the game.

@vdusen04 - keep in mind, the most open of jumpshots is being taken with somebody (probably taller than us, even PG's are usually 6-3 and up) trying to recover and is probably in front of about 30,000 people. Again, unless somebody's played major d1 ball, I'm doubting they have any idea what that pressure is like.

Enjoy the fantasy thinking, friends. If you want to believe that you would be comparable in a rating scale in any category to a professional NBA player, feel free. I'm checking out.

[bigp51]

Re: Ever wondered what you would REALLY be rated in NBA 2k?

The lowest we can be is a 25 (since 2K rates on a 25-100 scale). I'm assuming that's what you meant

Basically yeah. 25 or 0, either way, no one on this board would be any good.

[Suntan Superman]

Re: Ever wondered what you would REALLY be rated in NBA 2k?

How about both? Would that be a yes to the first question, no to the second?

If I'm dropping my job today to go to the NBA, I probably wouldn't hang with them at all, if we're rewinding, and I focus, and put the time and effort into basketball instead of hockey, and my actual goal is the nba, I bet I'd be better than most think.

[ourpurpose]

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This thread is humorous, not specifically calling anyone out, but NBA players given there size and skill sets are untouchable to the average player. I play often with some D1 players at a local school (small, still D1) and must admit many of you do not understand how good these players truly are. The biggest difference I notice when playing with "real players" and average players is how much smaller the court feels. Creating space against talented athletes takes incredible speed, quickness, strength, and ball handling (intelligence is a plus, however some players are so athletic it is not a necessity) . The length on the court can turn your local gym star into a complete no show.
I would say the "average joe" so to speak, stands the fairest chance at hustling and hitting open shots. After all, a jumper can be a man's best friend when attempting to create space. In all fairness though, I have met many players in gyms who could have played D1 easily (most lack mental toughness), but the NBA is an entirely different level.

[Squirrel_Dude]

Re: Ever wondered what you would REALLY be rated in NBA 2k?

Let's see, 6 foot, 25 speed, ball handling, verticle....

Maybe 50 medium, 35 3 pointer, 50 shot low post, 45 pass,

0 years basketball experience, so no O or D awareness.


25 overall, if we're being generous.

[Pokes404]

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Had the opportunity to play a few pick up games with/against James Anderson (now a rookie with San Antonio) back in college. Sure, he was playing some solid ball before his injury this year, but he's just another guy in the NBA. But being on the same court with him, I can tell you that he was unbelievable. Those guys who were considered the "top" players at the local gym couldn't even begin to compete with him. And I'm talking about guys who played JUCO ball or even some D1 at a smaller school. Those guys in the NBA are on a totally different level. I may be a decent player, but I'd be rated about a -20 in this game.