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  • nba2k23
    Rookie
    • Jun 2011
    • 38

    #106
    Originally posted by qpc123
    Because the '01 Kings got swept by LA in the conference semi-finals and the '02 Kings took the two-time defending champs to 7 games in the conference finals and had the best regular season record. '01 was a more a more exciting team but '02 was a much better team.
    The 00-01 and 01-02 rosters are pretty much the same except the 01 team has J-Will and the 02 team has Bibby. If 2k used the 01 team you could swap J-Will for Bibby who will already be in the game on the Heat. That way you could basically have both teams.

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    • VDusen04
      Hall Of Fame
      • Aug 2003
      • 13033

      #107
      Re: NBA 2K12 Developer Insight #1 - Marketing/Community Efforts with New Screenshots

      Originally posted by nba2k23
      The 00-01 and 01-02 rosters are pretty much the same except the 01 team has J-Will and the 02 team has Bibby. If 2k used the 01 team you could swap J-Will for Bibby who will already be in the game on the Heat. That way you could basically have both teams.
      I definitely feel where you're coming from because as a basketball fan, young Jason Williams was a ton of fun to watch. And it'd undoubtedly be just as entertaining to run with a young, signature-passing J-Will in 2K12. However, I'm thinking 2K chose to select the club that was entertaining and successful. And while a Williams-less squad in '02 may have been slightly less exciting, they were arguably a much better team overall. So in this case, I suppose overall ability outweighs individual entertainment.

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      • youvalss
        ******
        • Feb 2007
        • 16601

        #108
        Re: NBA 2K12 Developer Insight #1 - Marketing/Community Efforts with New Screenshots

        Half of the excitement about watching Jason Williams was watching passes that went to the stands. If he could make simpler passes and be more responsible, he would have averaged more assists and maybe make the guys around him better.

        He was more of a gimmick, in my opinion. Not really a PG I would like to see on my team.
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        • skinnybonez
          MVP
          • May 2003
          • 1459

          #109
          Re: NBA 2K12 Developer Insight #1 - Marketing/Community Efforts with New Screenshots

          white chocolate>pistol pete

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          • VDusen04
            Hall Of Fame
            • Aug 2003
            • 13033

            #110
            Re: NBA 2K12 Developer Insight #1 - Marketing/Community Efforts with New Screenshots

            Originally posted by youvalss
            Half of the excitement about watching Jason Williams was watching passes that went to the stands. If he could make simpler passes and be more responsible, he would have averaged more assists and maybe make the guys around him better.

            He was more of a gimmick, in my opinion. Not really a PG I would like to see on my team.
            Actually, once he moved over to Memphis, I think he may have led the league in assist-to-turnover ratio in '03 with close to four assists for every one turnover. He made an interesting (and necessary) transformation. In his second year in the league, his assist-to-turnover ratio was less than 2:1.

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            • nba2k23
              Rookie
              • Jun 2011
              • 38

              #111
              a few suggestions for "Greatest Mode"
              Twin Towers

              Shaq and Penny

              Hakeem vs. Ewing

              Jordan vs. Barkley

              Lew Alcindor and Oscar Robertson's Bucks

              Bill Russell and John Havlicek's Celtics

              Reggie Miller's Pacers vs. Spike Lee and 94 Knicks

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              • youvalss
                ******
                • Feb 2007
                • 16601

                #112
                Re: NBA 2K12 Developer Insight #1 - Marketing/Community Efforts with New Screenshots

                Originally posted by VDusen04
                Actually, once he moved over to Memphis, I think he may have led the league in assist-to-turnover ratio in '03 with close to four assists for every one turnover. He made an interesting (and necessary) transformation. In his second year in the league, his assist-to-turnover ratio was less than 2:1.
                Yeah, he got better after a while and more responsible, but he's still nothing to write home about. He did have 2 seasons with 8+ assists per game, but still he wasn't anything great in my book. Look at his FT% throughout his career. It's pretty much tells you about this guy - a roller coaster.
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                • Evilgangsta187
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 8

                  #113
                  O MY GOD Adiddas teck fit sleeves 0.0

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                  • Evilgangsta187
                    Rookie
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 8

                    #114
                    Lol the camera man isn't even looking at the action in the low post in The second picture

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                    • JSensui
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 214

                      #115
                      Re: NBA 2K12 Developer Insight #1 - Marketing/Community Efforts with New Screenshots

                      Originally posted by Da_Czar
                      Don't be. Gameplay team put in work as usual.

                      "As usual" doesn't really ease my fears, lol. Their methods of fixing things in 2K11 was...shortsighted. Somewhat transparent.
                      Last edited by JSensui; 08-13-2011, 10:08 PM.

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                      • kingg d
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 356

                        #116
                        Re: NBA 2K12 Developer Insight #1 - Marketing/Community Efforts with New Screenshots

                        This has to be the worst insight ever

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                        • coolcras7
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 2337

                          #117
                          Re: NBA 2K12 Developer Insight #1 - Marketing/Community Efforts with New Screenshots

                          Originally posted by JSensui
                          "As usual" doesn't really ease my fears, lol. Their methods of fixing things in 2K11 was...shortsighted. Somewhat transparent.
                          That is why they won how many sports game of the year awards and forced another company to cancel their game for how many years ? Sports games will always be the hardest to replicate for the simple fact that they are based on specific individuals will to win and passion for the game, you can add millions of animations and someone will still do something on the court that we have never seen before.
                          Last edited by coolcras7; 08-14-2011, 04:35 AM.
                          PSN=Coolcas7

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                          • renewill27
                            Rookie
                            • Dec 2004
                            • 197

                            #118
                            You will still buy.lol

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                            • Control-X
                              Pro
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 600

                              #119
                              Getting too old asking for this...1993 SUNS CHARLES BARKLEY IN A 2K GAME!!! IF NOT NOW WHEN?

                              Dr. J
                              1976_Bird 1986_Magic 1987_Chuck 1993_Pip 1994_MJ 1996_GP 1996_Shaq 2000_AI 2001_Kobe 2006

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                              • Da_Czar
                                NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 5408

                                #120
                                Re: NBA 2K12 Developer Insight #1 - Marketing/Community Efforts with New Screenshots

                                Originally posted by JSensui
                                "As usual" doesn't really ease my fears, lol. Their methods of fixing things in 2K11 was...shortsighted. Somewhat transparent.
                                My response was speaking to the fears of those who think that just because the great's are in the game this year that gameplay wasn't worked on.

                                What basketball game had better gameplay than 2k11 ? In addition the gameplay in 2k11 is much much improved from 2k10. So if you base it on year to year quantifiable improvement 2k does in fact put in work every year.

                                Now the question if wether they work on what JSensui thinks is important is an entirely different subject. On your personal list of what needs improvement they may stink. The question for me is what game is closer to the real thing considering each individual aspect of the game ?

                                See when we compare a game to what other games have actually done, not what we hope for a game to be able to do, that can lend perspective. Otherwise all games suck, and are shortsighted, because they are not the real thing. LOL YMMV of course.
                                Last edited by Da_Czar; 08-14-2011, 06:10 AM.
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