NBA 2K12 Developer Insight #3 - Art Direction

**mreyes930** · 08-31-2011, 01:45 AM

Re: NBA 2K12 Developer Insight #3 - Art Direction

Originally posted by Spartan901

For those complaining about what others complain about, some want the game to play as true to life as possible. When Shaq takes off from the free throw line in "other" games, they cry foul, because thats not representative of the real experience. Others want the game to look as true to life as possible. So when player models are missing certain details, whether it be the face is completely off, player model not slim enough, or player wearing some form(s) of attire he doesn't in real life, they cry foul as well. But we're arguing two sides of the same coin, Authenticity. One element is not superior to the other, but both merge cohesively to give us an overall emersive experience in which belief is temporarily suspended into believing we are watching the sport we love unfold before our eyes and at our finger tips. And fortunately for us 2k's developers understand this very well and I applaud their efforts to this point

Preach On!

**boboddy101** · 08-31-2011, 02:10 AM

kobes new face looks like the ones from the pc mods

**Xx Qontrolz xX** · 08-31-2011, 02:10 AM

Re: NBA 2K12 Developer Insight #3 - Art Direction

is it just me or is the lakers bench on the wrong side of the court?

**D0PEB0i FR35H** · 08-31-2011, 02:46 AM

Originally posted by Spartan901

I wrote SimBaller about this last year, being able to chose our jersey in MyPlayer mode. I REALLY hope they added that this year. I know its a minor thing, but when you invest the time to play season after season with one team, it'd be nice to see the other uniforms

Yes indeed playing in da same home/away gets alil boring!!!!!

**D0PEB0i FR35H** · 08-31-2011, 03:09 AM

Originally posted by Drosebpga1

Still baggy jerseys, it's kool I thought I was looking at a real life picture of drose!!!! They did great, but I'm still waiting for the padded arm sleeves .

Padded arm sleeves are in 2k11 so im pretty sure they will be in 2k12!!!

**jux** · 08-31-2011, 09:37 AM

Look at those african americans type of people with those white hands ... lol

**Pared** · 08-31-2011, 10:23 AM

Re: NBA 2K12 Developer Insight #3 - Art Direction

Originally posted by scottyp180

haha wow. I know it's really not a big deal but you would think the 2k would be a little more organized and on top of their job. How do you delay an insight in order to release a video with it only to put out the insight (that was not insightful) without the promised video. 2k should stop telling us when they are going to release info and just surprise us when it comes out. As a fan it would be more rewarding to receive information when I'm not expecting it rather than being told new information is going to be released only to hear I need to wait longer. Hopefully the video comes out by tomorrow and future insights are insightful and released on schedule.

The problem is they have to work with media outlets who are unreliable.

They promise the trailer premiere to IGN, who doesn't release it the day 2k said they would release their Insight. So should you delay the insight or release and mention the trailer will be out shortly?

Obviously they chose the latter.

**scottyp180** · 08-31-2011, 11:01 AM

Originally posted by qpc123

Yes, slow your roll before you jump all over somebody with the whole "you don't know me" racket when it's your own lack of reading comprehension that is the root of the problem.

Perhaps, don't come here everyday if it is that troubling for you. This thread is for the "Art Insight" , accessories are part of the Art in the game. This thread is not for you to complain about what other people's "complaints" are. If it really bothers you that much start the who care about accessories thread like someone did when all the info was just about NBA Greatest mode.

I've never been able to understand the accessory complaints, especially something as subtle as d-rose's knee pad or Moe24-'s complaint about players fingers (still not quite sure what you mean) but it's a good point to note that this is the Art Insight. If any where is the place to complain about accessories or anything graphical it's here. I've seen PC mods model players head to toe quite accurately, it shouldn't be hard for 2k to do the same.

**Jakeness23** · 08-31-2011, 11:10 AM

Originally posted by Green Magic

Just a question why do you guys care soooooo much about acessories

cause gameplay is on point, it's not a huge thing to me, but if they're all about 'authenticity' then why shouldn't we get everything?

**kolanji** · 08-31-2011, 11:11 AM

Re: NBA 2K12 Developer Insight #3 - Art Direction

wow that Rose pic is mad detailed
the ball still floats in the palm but no big deal to me
details on the ball are awesome
details on the shoes are awesome
Hey look......... a gorilla on skates!
lighting on the players n court looks awesome
player faces especially kobe's looks awesome

**Jakeness23** · 08-31-2011, 11:11 AM

Originally posted by BigDaneAyMane

Give us his address and social security number too please. Sounds like you want to wear his skin...

well honestly who the hell WOULDN'T want to be D Rose?! i was just saying, since D Rose is Ronnie's boy and all I figured they should get his accessories and everything correct, not to mention he was MVP. I'm just as interested in gameplay too, but I just want the whole package so that it can really bring the NBA to your house... all I'm saying.

**scottyp180** · 08-31-2011, 11:16 AM

Originally posted by Pared

The problem is they have to work with media outlets who are unreliable.

They promise the trailer premiere to IGN, who doesn't release it the day 2k said they would release their Insight. So should you delay the insight or release and mention the trailer will be out shortly?

Obviously they chose the latter.

But if you're going to give the video to IGN would it be trouble to ask when they will release the video in order to coincide with the insight? Or maybe don't delay the insight for a video if you don't know when the video is being released. OR MAYBE, just maybe they could have embedded the video into the insight and released it themselves instead of making it an IGN exclusive. I understand there are certain things that are out of 2k/Ronnie's hands but they make themselves and their marketing look bad when the do things like this. They could be more upfront with us (the fans) instead of making excuse/false promises. Again it doesn't matter in the long run because I (and probably anyone else who complained) will purchase the game regardless but when things like this happen every year you would think 2k would have figured out how to avoid situations like this or at least be more prepared.

**KyotoCarl** · 08-31-2011, 11:59 AM

Re: NBA 2K12 Developer Insight #3 - Art Direction

Originally posted by scottyp180

But if you're going to give the video to IGN would it be trouble to ask when they will release the video in order to coincide with the insight? Or maybe don't delay the insight for a video if you don't know when the video is being released. OR MAYBE, just maybe they could have embedded the video into the insight and released it themselves instead of making it an IGN exclusive. I understand there are certain things that are out of 2k/Ronnie's hands but they make themselves and their marketing look bad when the do things like this. They could be more upfront with us (the fans) instead of making excuse/false promises. Again it doesn't matter in the long run because I (and probably anyone else who complained) will purchase the game regardless but when things like this happen every year you would think 2k would have figured out how to avoid situations like this or at least be more prepared.

They will release it on Thursday, according to Ronnie2K on Twitter.
That means trailer today, gameplay footage from IGN on Thursday and a new isnight on Friday.

**Pared** · 08-31-2011, 02:07 PM

Re: NBA 2K12 Developer Insight #3 - Art Direction

Originally posted by scottyp180

But if you're going to give the video to IGN would it be trouble to ask when they will release the video in order to coincide with the insight? Or maybe don't delay the insight for a video if you don't know when the video is being released. OR MAYBE, just maybe they could have embedded the video into the insight and released it themselves instead of making it an IGN exclusive. I understand there are certain things that are out of 2k/Ronnie's hands but they make themselves and their marketing look bad when the do things like this. They could be more upfront with us (the fans) instead of making excuse/false promises. Again it doesn't matter in the long run because I (and probably anyone else who complained) will purchase the game regardless but when things like this happen every year you would think 2k would have figured out how to avoid situations like this or at least be more prepared.

I'm telling you this from personal experience:

You can't just throw the individuals you work with under the bus. You burn those bridges and you're screwed. That's a key aspect of marketing.

And you can only go by what someone says. If you're dependent on a third party and that third party doesn't come through, you may look bad but at the same time you are dependent on them for a reason.

**Mr_Riddick** · 08-31-2011, 02:17 PM

Re: NBA 2K12 Developer Insight #3 - Art Direction

Great points Pared.

Originally posted by Pared

I'm telling you this from personal experience:

You can't just throw the individuals you work with under the bus. You burn those bridges and you're screwed. That's a key aspect of marketing.

And you can only go by what someone says. If you're dependent on a third party and that third party doesn't come through, you may look bad but at the same time you are dependent on them for a reason.

NBA 2K12 Developer Insight #3 - Art Direction

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