No Improvements To Offline Association huh?

[Ricky Rowe Zay]

Re: No Improvements To Offline Association huh?

So it is all about YOU.

To YOU making minor changes to offline comes before revolutionising online.

YOU clearly don't understand.

YOU need to understand that YOU are in the minority in terms of YOUR complaints.

YOU are selfish.

YOU are the one that needs better perspective, OP.

You clearly have an issue with reading comprehension and responding to comments unrelated to you.

What I pointed out has as much to do with improving the offline experience as it does with the online experience considering they are the same mode.

I dont feel the need to keep explaining myself because several other posters have made valid points that demonstrate our shared feelings on this issue.

[Ricky Rowe Zay]

Re: No Improvements To Offline Association huh?

I would say slightly better. They updated the off season. They didn't add anything though. Different menu and they rearranged the task. Well they did change the draft. Other than a few things looking and worded different its the same. I'm noticing all the same problems I was annoyed with last year unfortunately. Once again 2k you could have fix the problems from last year.

Basically the same though. I didn't care about it being the same I just wanted the problems fixed. 2k why take out editing age? GEEZEEEEEE. I really hope 2k can throw us a association patch. I hope they ask us for the problems or just go over this thread. I just cant figure out why they did not fix the problems. The mode is good. It could be great with some fixes. I hope 2k put their self's in our shoes and realize we are going to have to play this mode for a year.

Please tell me this isnt true.

I usually lowered ages each year to keep players like Ray Allen, Duncan, Nash, VC, etc from retiring so soon. Not to say that they wont retire in 3-5 years, but they certainly aren't retiring following this season.



Does this have an effect on the generic D-League players too? We stuck with generic scrubs for eternity?

[elprez98]

Re: No Improvements To Offline Association huh?

Why do people post in threads like this if they don't agree with the premise?

Do you think you're going to waltz into a thread and make someone say "gee you're right, I guess I'm not upset about my favorite game mode being broken for the 4th year in a row." It's like opening a Laker thread to tell everyone why they should be a Celtics fan.

Also, what do you think you're contributing by shooting down someone else's opinion as wrong/invalid? He clearly likes this game mode and he's upset that it hasn't been updated...where do you get off telling him he's wrong for feeling that way?

I don't understand why asking 2k to fix things that are BROKEN is unreasonable anyway..he's not asking them to add new features to Association and ignore other things, he simply wants what's broken (and what's BEEN broken, some of which they blatantly lied about fixing last year) fixed.

He is asking them to ignore something. There is a finite amount of time for developers to get things done. To fix this, THEY WILL have to ignore some other aspect of the game. Its a simple concept called opportunity costs. If they fixed your issue, there is someone else would have a thread, "Why haven't They implemented Online Association Yet," or "Post Game Same As Last Year," or some other thread that someone else is as passionate about as guys are in this thread.

Therefore, they make a decision. Unfortunately, your issues do not sell as well as a new post game or online association. You don't have to like it and you are well within your right as the consumer, to use your purchasing power to make a statement. Threads like this make you seem like you are a minority though, especially when people are raving about the post game, online association, and other improvements. I'd say, put it in the 2k13 improvements thread and they will improve it as long as they have the time.

[swish_316]

Re: No Improvements To Offline Association huh?

He is asking them to ignore something. There is a finite amount of time for developers to get things done. To fix this, THEY WILL have to ignore some other aspect of the game. Its a simple concept called opportunity costs. If they fixed your issue, there is someone else would have a thread, "Why haven't They implemented Online Association Yet," or "Post Game Same As Last Year," or some other thread that someone else is as passionate about as guys are in this thread.

Therefore, they make a decision. Unfortunately, your issues do not sell as well as a new post game or online association. You don't have to like it and you are well within your right as the consumer, to use your purchasing power to make a statement. Threads like this make you seem like you are a minority though, especially when people are raving about the post game, online association, and other improvements. I'd say, put it in the 2k13 improvements thread and they will improve it as long as they have the time.

do you code games? everything they add before erasing those bugs makes them put in twice the time needed to fix them later because it has also an effect on the code they added. i dont get why they add something like online association when the core (offline association) is broken. only way to make them feel my anger is not to buy the game and thats exactly what i do.

[Ricky Rowe Zay]

Re: No Improvements To Offline Association huh?

He is asking them to ignore something. There is a finite amount of time for developers to get things done. To fix this, THEY WILL have to ignore some other aspect of the game. Its a simple concept called opportunity costs. If they fixed your issue, there is someone else would have a thread, "Why haven't They implemented Online Association Yet," or "Post Game Same As Last Year," or some other thread that someone else is as passionate about as guys are in this thread.

Therefore, they make a decision. Unfortunately, your issues do not sell as well as a new post game or online association. You don't have to like it and you are well within your right as the consumer, to use your purchasing power to make a statement. Threads like this make you seem like you are a minority though, especially when people are raving about the post game, online association, and other improvements. I'd say, put it in the 2k13 improvements thread and they will improve it as long as they have the time.

Once again we come back to this conundrum.

What is the point of implementing Online Association without fixing the bugs related to Association? Yeah, its great they finally allow it to be Online. However, you'd expect that they would iron out these same issues that were brought to their attention with Association in 2K11 and even some that have continued throughout previous versions.

Keep in mind nobody is asking for a time consuming overhaul to the Association Mode that would've had to become a major focus of the devs. There were simply numerous bugs that were prevalent with Association in 2K11, fixing those issues would've made a statement to to go along with the introduction of the Online Association.

That is all.

[Jukeman]

I wouldn't use "bug" (even tho some prolly are)

Flaw is more fitting IMO


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[Cantgetright69]

Re: No Improvements To Offline Association huh?

Hopefully they include a huge patch within a few months to fix the issues we had in association mode last year since they didn't fix them this year.

[swish_316]

Re: No Improvements To Offline Association huh?

I wouldn't use "bug" (even tho some prolly are)

Flaw is more fitting IMO


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bug is the common phrase used in the pc community.

things like star players being free agents for the whole season are bugs

[Gosens6]

Re: No Improvements To Offline Association huh?

Association is highly improved this year from my limited time with the game.

They actually fixed most of the gripes I had from last year in the seasons I simmed.

Kudos to 2K for that.

The FA bug was what killed it for me last year, and FA is so improved this year it's ridiculous

[Jukeman]

bug is the common phrase used in the pc community.

things like star players being free agents for the whole season are bugs

yea I know

But when you have guys at EA saying a feature was designed to do what it is doing (which is currently flawed) you have to be careful how you word things haha


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[Jukeman]

Association is highly improved this year from my limited time with the game.

They actually fixed most of the gripes I had from last year in the seasons I simmed.

Kudos to 2K for that.

The FA bug was what killed it for me last year, and FA is so improved this year it's ridiculous

How's progression/regression looking?

Is Chemistry the same and are player roles useless again?

How about injuries?

I wont have the game until atleast Thursday...

Smh, what's the point of pre-ordering online?




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[Gosens6]

Re: No Improvements To Offline Association huh?

How's progression/regression looking?

Is Chemistry the same and are player roles useless again?

How about injuries?

I wont have the game until atleast Thursday...

Smh, what's the point of pre-ordering online?




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Injuries look very realistic, you actually get some during games now..

Chemistry seems to be the same, but guys seem alot more willing to accept their roles now which helps out ALOT

Contract extentions are done mainly during the season now, with guys saying if they're willing to re-sign, undecided, or want to test the FA market.

Lots of trades were made during the first and second seasons

Lots of trades during the NBA Draft..

FA looks great, guys like D-Rose, Russel Westbrook were getting TONS of offers, both ended up going back to their respective teams.

At the start of the second season the highest rated FA was only a 68, so they fixed the problem with high rated guys sitting there.

Progression looks good, once you get a few years in, you still have only a handful of superstar players and a bunch of role players, so it stays in line with the current rosters.

While they didn't make any dramatic changes, it looks to be improved on a lot of the things we complained about.

[elprez98]

Re: No Improvements To Offline Association huh?

Once again we come back to this conundrum.

What is the point of implementing Online Association without fixing the bugs related to Association? Yeah, its great they finally allow it to be Online. However, you'd expect that they would iron out these same issues that were brought to their attention with Association in 2K11 and even some that have continued throughout previous versions.

Keep in mind nobody is asking for a time consuming overhaul to the Association Mode that would've had to become a major focus of the devs. There were simply numerous bugs that were prevalent with Association in 2K11, fixing those issues would've made a statement to to go along with the introduction of the Online Association.

That is all.

The bolded sections provides insight on the crux of the issue here. The fact that you dismiss online association as some minor improvement. Allowing 30 human teams to interact across a server, I would imagine, is no small feat. I am sure that fixing the issues that you have, isn't as easy as rewriting a single line of code or else it would have been done already. Again, I think you are well within your right to ask for these fixes, however there has to be an understanding that in the big picture, online association is more important monetarily for 2k. OA will not only sell more in a year without the NBA, it will also set a higher bar for the competition to meet next year. You seem reasonable enough to see that there is a big picture here: $$$$$$$.

I'm not a betting man, but if I were, I'd look for your fixes next year when they release an even more polished and robust Association Mode.

[pdandy]

Re: No Improvements To Offline Association huh?

Sounds good. That's all asked for this time around. Didn't like that association mode fell apart last year after a 5 or more simmed seasons.

[elprez98]

Re: No Improvements To Offline Association huh?

do you code games? everything they add before erasing those bugs makes them put in twice the time needed to fix them later because it has also an effect on the code they added. i dont get why they add something like online association when the core (offline association) is broken. only way to make them feel my anger is not to buy the game and thats exactly what i do.

No I don't code games, but I do stay at a Holiday Inn Express when on business.