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  • Jukeman
    Showtime
    • Aug 2005
    • 10955

    #226
    Originally posted by Tackleberry
    It's not just bigs that have the problem, it's just more noticeable with them. Every player that progresses their rating in the offseason has their 3pt tendency go up.
    I mentioned that.

    It's very noticeable with other plays also because the FG% league wide is down, leading scorers shooting just under 40%

    I can imagine the jack feast in played game, been thru that with choops


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    Last edited by Jukeman; 10-20-2011, 06:49 PM.

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    • youALREADYknow
      MVP
      • Aug 2008
      • 3635

      #227
      Re: Some info for those of you that like to go deep into your Association.....

      Why are those shooting tendencies "progressing" in the first place? Other than touches and overall shot tendency, what's the point?

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      • Tackleberry
        Banned
        • Oct 2011
        • 180

        #228
        Re: Some info for those of you that like to go deep into your Association.....

        Originally posted by youALREADYknow
        Why are those shooting tendencies "progressing" in the first place? Other than touches and overall shot tendency, what's the point?
        I'm willing to bet it wasn't done on purpose, because mid, close, and inside don't progress.

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        • Tackleberry
          Banned
          • Oct 2011
          • 180

          #229
          Re: Some info for those of you that like to go deep into your Association.....

          Originally posted by Jukeman
          I mentioned that.

          It's very noticeable with other plays also because the FG% league wide is down, leading scorers shooting just under 40%

          I can imagine the jack feast in played game, been thru that with choops


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          Very true, i'll bet this is also what's causing the scoring averages to dip after a few years. Either that, or shot tendency is progressing too much, causing teams scoring to be spread around more.

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          • Jukeman
            Showtime
            • Aug 2005
            • 10955

            #230
            Originally posted by youALREADYknow
            Why are those shooting tendencies "progressing" in the first place? Other than touches and overall shot tendency, what's the point?
            Yea maybe they can patch it so that shot tendency and touch are the only tendencies that regress and progress.

            Because in the long run having all tendencies move up and down could present problems


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            • haloofduty
              Pro
              • Aug 2008
              • 861

              #231
              Re: Some info for those of you that like to go deep into your Association.....

              Hopefully Simballer is going over this thread. Its been stated association is his baby so maybe we can have a glimmer of hope. On second thought 2k did destroy 2k10 association with big men shooting 3s and didn't fix it that year. I just cannot understand why we didn't get a association fix. I wanna enjoy the game but I find myself editing, editing, editing, editing and more editing.

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              • Matty Aqua
                Pro
                • Oct 2009
                • 1298

                #232
                Re: Some info for those of you that like to go deep into your Association.....

                Originally posted by haloofduty
                Hopefully Simballer is going over this thread. Its been stated association is his baby so maybe we can have a glimmer of hope. On second thought 2k did destroy 2k10 association with big men shooting 3s and didn't fix it that year. I just cannot understand why we didn't get a association fix. I wanna enjoy the game but I find myself editing, editing, editing, editing and more editing.
                I feel your pain!....nothing more frustrating,its never a pick up and play with 2k basketball...more time editing than playing

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                • haloofduty
                  Pro
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 861

                  #233
                  Re: Some info for those of you that like to go deep into your Association.....

                  I haven't played a full game yet. I have been editing since release. While I'm editing I come across another problem or someone else comes across one. Then there is more editing. I wonder if it is extremely difficult for 2k to fix association problems or if they just don't care.

                  The first thing I do when I get my copy of nba 2k is sim up to 8 seasons. I see association problems within 15 minutes of having the game. 2k developed the game for over a year so you would think they would fix some problems their fans have a problem with. I understand if they dont implement certain features we may want in association but at least FIX IT.

                  2k a lot of us purchased this game for association at least you can have the decency to fix it. This whole thread is about fixes, edits and workarounds. I'm tired of fixes, edits and workarounds. Every mode has problems but we been bringing some of these problems to your attention for the longest. This year you added a few more problems. This thread is about the buyers of the game fixing the mode. How about the developer of the game fix it.

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                  • haloofduty
                    Pro
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 861

                    #234
                    Re: Some info for those of you that like to go deep into your Association.....

                    I just checked what jukeman said about big men 3 point tendency going up. Well what a surprise another problem. I simmed 1 season and some big guys 3 point tendency went up. A few guys increased by 13. This problem deserves its own thread. Dwight Howard for threeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
                    Last edited by haloofduty; 10-21-2011, 01:51 PM.

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                    • CharliePrince
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 701

                      #235
                      Re: Some info for those of you that like to go deep into your Association.....

                      "Dwight Howard for threeee.."
                      "Centers 3pt tendencies going wild!!"
                      "I have a center with 99 3pt tendency now!!"
                      "my center takes more 3 pters than my SG!!1one1!1!"


                      I love the insanity I read very nice to read hyperbole, theory-talk, fears and all other stuff weaker minds love to believe without trying the game themselves, etc.. because you know, everything on the interwebz is true

                      Default 2k rosters
                      -

                      5 years later of Played Association Seasons not even simmed, ACTUAL seasons, no theorycraft
                      -

                      in 5 years Dwight Howard's 3pt tendency is at 3, a whopping 3 points higher than his default 0.. he's taken no 3pt'ers in 5 years of actual play

                      none, nada, zippo.. in 5 years of actual play not theorycrafting or simmed-wishing or hype-talk

                      just sayin

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                      • kjjnesb
                        Pro
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 844

                        #236
                        Re: Some info for those of you that like to go deep into your Association.....

                        Anyone else hate what they've done to the draft this year? Half the time you can't see the big board cause the cameras focused on the podium and you can't trade for picks that is pending. Also David Sterns draft spill is getting really old 5 yrs in why can't I skip it lol

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                        • CharliePrince
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 701

                          #237
                          Re: Some info for those of you that like to go deep into your Association.....

                          Originally posted by kjjnesb
                          Anyone else hate what they've done to the draft this year? Half the time you can't see the big board cause the cameras focused on the podium and you can't trade for picks that is pending. Also David Sterns draft spill is getting really old 5 yrs in why can't I skip it lol
                          lol thank god it's only once a year right? i know what you mean.. the funny thing is I can *totally* imagine David Stern doing the voiceover for this thing and just taking his time and like on the 80th take he's finally, "ok ok let's keep that one"

                          hahaha all the while we're sitting there going, "Shut up already!"

                          as for the draft.. it feels the same to me the only thing i really really miss are the "NBA comparisons" as that usually gave an idea of how the player played ie: my favorites (my favorites, not saying the best but I built my teams with these playstyles) last year were like
                          PG - JKidd
                          SG - Ray Allen/DWade
                          SF - Lebron
                          PF - no archetype but Amar'e's are good I found
                          C - haven't really found an archetype I liked but notable standouts were the Boguts and the very rare Shaq's

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                          • Jukeman
                            Showtime
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 10955

                            #238
                            Originally posted by CharliePrince
                            "Dwight Howard for threeee.."
                            "Centers 3pt tendencies going wild!!"
                            "I have a center with 99 3pt tendency now!!"
                            "my center takes more 3 pters than my SG!!1one1!1!"


                            I love the insanity I read very nice to read hyperbole, theory-talk, fears and all other stuff weaker minds love to believe without trying the game themselves, etc.. because you know, everything on the interwebz is true

                            Default 2k rosters
                            -

                            5 years later of Played Association Seasons not even simmed, ACTUAL seasons, no theorycraft
                            -

                            in 5 years Dwight Howard's 3pt tendency is at 3, a whopping 3 points higher than his default 0.. he's taken no 3pt'ers in 5 years of actual play

                            none, nada, zippo.. in 5 years of actual play not theorycrafting or simmed-wishing or hype-talk

                            just sayin
                            Howard at 26 and a 90+ OVR is pretty much done progressing...

                            Look at a younger guy with low ovr and a high pot rating..


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                            • Tackleberry
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 180

                              #239
                              Re: Some info for those of you that like to go deep into your Association.....

                              Originally posted by CharliePrince
                              "Dwight Howard for threeee.."
                              "Centers 3pt tendencies going wild!!"
                              "I have a center with 99 3pt tendency now!!"
                              "my center takes more 3 pters than my SG!!1one1!1!"


                              I love the insanity I read very nice to read hyperbole, theory-talk, fears and all other stuff weaker minds love to believe without trying the game themselves, etc.. because you know, everything on the interwebz is true

                              Default 2k rosters
                              -

                              5 years later of Played Association Seasons not even simmed, ACTUAL seasons, no theorycraft
                              -

                              in 5 years Dwight Howard's 3pt tendency is at 3, a whopping 3 points higher than his default 0.. he's taken no 3pt'ers in 5 years of actual play

                              none, nada, zippo.. in 5 years of actual play not theorycrafting or simmed-wishing or hype-talk

                              just sayin
                              It only went up 3 because he only progressed once, and probably progressed only a point or 2. Once players reach the age where they no longer progress, the tendency won't go up either. Why don't you show us say Greg Monroe's 3 tendency? Or how about Patrick Patterson's? What was the point of your post anyways? Did you think people were exaggerating?
                              Last edited by Tackleberry; 10-21-2011, 05:28 PM.

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                              • DatSamuraiRose
                                Rookie
                                • Jul 2010
                                • 90

                                #240
                                Re: Some info for those of you that like to go deep into your Association.....

                                Does anybody know how to fix the hotspots for a scorer when his mid range is 90 something but his hotspot is still cold

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