If one of my players cuts to the rim while they're open one more time.....

[Jesus]

Re: If one of my players cuts to the rim while they're open one more time.....

But that's not even what is being discussed in the thread. It's about the players cutting to the rim.

If the video share wasn't so poor this year I'd have a clip for show and tell.

It has <EVERYTHING> to do with the "momentum" on passes. If a player is moving at the EXACT moment the user presses the pass button, the receiver continues with his motion, hence "momentum."

Passes have two animations - passer and receiver. The receiver has momentum this year. This was done to solve the complaints about people stopping on a fastbreak from last year and it screwed up the basic drive and kick game this year. Your teammates follow you in to the paint, especially if you try to make a pass baseline to the weakside corner.

It's something that can be fixed in a patch. Fingers crossed that it doesn't screw up fastbreaks though and they can separate the problem.

According to the title yes, but the first paragraph of the OP touched on the issue on a wider scope than simply going towards the rim.

".....I'm going to launch my controller at this TV. Is this only happening to me? I would have shooters wide open on the wing or the corner, and when I decide to pass it to them they suddenly decide to move/cut and the ball ends up stolen."

So you see it is a topic of discussion and that example was appropriate.

And you continue to speak of movement and momentum being the issue when the problem at hand is that the "receiver" shouldn't be moving at all in the complained about situations.

The fact that a "receiver" continues moving in the direction they were going is an improvement in the passing game in my opinion. For too many years players were able to stop on a dime and pass at any time with out consequence.

But getting back on topic. Open, stationary players who can shoot should not be cutting.

[Pared]

Re: If one of my players cuts to the rim while they're open one more time.....

Over your head. Again - it's part of the solution to the "broken" fastbreaks last year. One fix hurt something else - it's why Czar is always pleading with you guys to understand the universal concepts being discussed here.

Doesn't matter - not interested in arguing with someone when I'm trying to explain the issue and they're just interested in arguing.

Feel free to continue along.

[TheKasmar]

Re: If one of my players cuts to the rim while they're open one more time.....

Here's a prime example. This was regular directional passing (no icon lead pass).

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I get this animation too from the reciever when he is open on the 3 point line. He backs away to recieve the pass rendering it useless since he's way beyond the 3 line. I'm used to that because it's been happening since 2k10.

[TUSS11]

Re: If one of my players cuts to the rim while they're open one more time.....

Bad example. Here the pass was done to a player that was already moving away.

I pressed the pass button before he started to move, but the hesitation animation had to finish before the pass was actually made.

[Blooddiamond4]

Re: If one of my players cuts to the rim while they're open one more time.....

This crap literally only happens if I am winning... STOP WITH THE CHEATING FOR THE OPPOSITION IF THEY ARE LOSING

Im smashing this Heat scrub and suddenly in the 4th quarter all of a sudden...

-Pass to stationary player with zero lead pass...cut to basket...stolen... lebron slam

-Pass to stationary player with lead pass AWAY FROM THE BASKET... cut to basket...stolen... wade slam

Come up the court... pass to Deng... automatically loses ball... lebron slam


Luckily Rose is a bawse and finished the game out on the bum but come on now... canned steals to keep the game close... get outta here with that 2k... why would you program cheating for the opposition in the game...

[ruxpinke]

Re: If one of my players cuts to the rim while they're open one more time.....

This crap literally only happens if I am winning... STOP WITH THE CHEATING FOR THE OPPOSITION IF THEY ARE LOSING

Im smashing this Heat scrub and suddenly in the 4th quarter all of a sudden...

-Pass to stationary player with zero lead pass...cut to basket...stolen... lebron slam

-Pass to stationary player with lead pass AWAY FROM THE BASKET... cut to basket...stolen... wade slam

Come up the court... pass to Deng... automatically loses ball... lebron slam


Luckily Rose is a bawse and finished the game out on the bum but come on now... canned steals to keep the game close... get outta here with that 2k... why would you program cheating for the opposition in the game...

youre using the bulls, who are the new version of the Heat this year, or at least close enough that you shouldnt be complaining.

[Pared]

Re: If one of my players cuts to the rim while they're open one more time.....

I pressed the pass button before he started to move, but the hesitation animation had to finish before the pass was actually made.

That makes sense then. The video showed otherwise.

Thanks for the clar.

[Blooddiamond4]

Re: If one of my players cuts to the rim while they're open one more time.....

youre using the bulls, who are the new version of the Heat this year, or at least close enough that you shouldnt be complaining.

Missed your point, bro.

From Chicago, diehard Bulls fan, only team I use in 2k and basically the only reason I bought the game so nice try, how bout adding to the topic at hand.

I can bet all the money in the world that once three pointers are patched you will barely see the Bulls again... I don't even put Korver in the game bc of that.

[Jesus]

Re: If one of my players cuts to the rim while they're open one more time.....

I pressed the pass button before he started to move, but the hesitation animation had to finish before the pass was actually made.

An open, stationary player moving for no real/ productive reason. Along the lines of what I was trying to explain, but apparently im not able to comprehend your intentions so it went over my head.

[Jesus]

Re: If one of my players cuts to the rim while they're open one more time.....

Over your head. Again - it's part of the solution to the "broken" fastbreaks last year. One fix hurt something else - it's why Czar is always pleading with you guys to understand the universal concepts being discussed here.

Doesn't matter - not interested in arguing with someone when I'm trying to explain the issue and they're just interested in arguing.

Feel free to continue along.

There is a big difference between an argument and a debate. Look into it.

[UnbelievablyRAW]

Re: If one of my players cuts to the rim while they're open one more time.....

2k10 had almost everything right. The players didn't move EVERY TIME you passed the ball to them, its just that shooters stood to far from the 3pt line. I thought it would easily be fixed for 2k11, but instead THEY INCORPORATE A STEPBACK ANIMATION EVERY TIME YOU CATCH THE BALL NEAR/AT THE THREE POINT LINE. They then make lead passing out of control making your players move everytime you use the directional buttons to aim a pass at someone. So freakin annoying

[JWiLL02]

Re: If one of my players cuts to the rim while they're open one more time.....

There is a big difference between an argument and a debate. Look into it.

A debate is a series of arguments...

[Jesus]

Re: If one of my players cuts to the rim while they're open one more time.....

A debate is a series of arguments...

Argument = an oral disagreement; verbal opposition; contention; altercation: a violent argument.

Debate = deliberation; consideration.

I take the latter to a bit more formal and respectable with opposing opinions. Id like to think, considering I rebutted him with reason, what i did falls into that category.

[luckeeloo]

Re: If one of my players cuts to the rim while they're open one more time.....

But that's not even what is being discussed in the thread. It's about the players cutting to the rim.

If the video share wasn't so poor this year I'd have a clip for show and tell.

It has <everything> to do with the "momentum" on passes. If a player is moving at the EXACT moment the user presses the pass button, the receiver continues with his motion, hence "momentum."

Passes have two animations - passer and receiver. The receiver has momentum this year. This was done to solve the complaints about people stopping on a fastbreak from last year and it screwed up the basic drive and kick game this year. Your teammates follow you in to the paint, especially if you try to make a pass baseline to the weakside corner.

It's something that can be fixed in a patch. Fingers crossed that it doesn't screw up fastbreaks though and they can separate the problem.

The more I see it in-game the more this makes sense. I hope it's not one or the other though, because the receiver's movement on fast breaks is working well. The passes are crap, but that's another thread.

"Jesus" did make an interesting point earlier in the thread that the offensive player off-the-ball doesn't necessarily know that he's open. It doesn't even register that he's cutting into a crowd, he just does it. Like guys setting screens out in space where nothing is happening. Or players not coming to relieve pressure when your dribble stops. I don't know if these are all symptoms of the same thing. That none of the guys on the court are fully "aware" of each other in relation to themselves.



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[MeloNYK7]

Re: If one of my players cuts to the rim while they're open one more time.....

play 2k1 on dreamcast (my favorite 2k still(my boy ai on the cover too))