Yeah this happens. I have looked at this very closely. You can have two guys contesting those shots in the paint and the grades never go below say a B- for those shots. Now compare that to hands up or contesting at those jumpers on the perimeter. I can force a D+ on the perimeter and at worse a B- for those up and unders in the paint. This is exactly why the CPU is shooting those shots. They have been programmed to take the best shots and these are the best shots based on the logic given even if it really should be much lower. I also noticed these shots very rarely draw any contact which means higher success rates.
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Re: The level of Cheese by the CPU is rediculus
Yeah this happens. I have looked at this very closely. You can have two guys contesting those shots in the paint and the grades never go below say a B- for those shots. Now compare that to hands up or contesting at those jumpers on the perimeter. I can force a D+ on the perimeter and at worse a B- for those up and unders in the paint. This is exactly why the CPU is shooting those shots. They have been programmed to take the best shots and these are the best shots based on the logic given even if it really should be much lower. I also noticed these shots very rarely draw any contact which means higher success rates. -
Re: The level of Cheese by the CPU is rediculus
The CPU is designed to make the best possible decisions... i.e. the trade logic, the up and unders, and the secret knowledge that it knows 3pts are easy, and thus they can do whatever they want inside the rules of the CPU engine... and the Users are upheld to a set of rules FAR below that of the CPUs...Yeah this happens. I have looked at this very closely. You can have two guys contesting those shots in the paint and the grades never go below say a B- for those shots. Now compare that to hands up or contesting at those jumpers on the perimeter. I can force a D+ on the perimeter and at worse a B- for those up and unders in the paint. This is exactly why the CPU is shooting those shots. They have been programmed to take the best shots and these are the best shots based on the logic given even if it really should be much lower. I also noticed these shots very rarely draw any contact which means higher success rates.Comment
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Re: The level of Cheese by the CPU is rediculus
I am on the bobcats, and I LOVE when the SAS says is name... KWA...ME... BROOOOOWN!!! hahahahaahaha... I find my self yelling it out at random times... don't judge me...
Now...
Pump fake cheese
three point cheese
Earl Boykin stuffs Tim Duncan cheese
the ability to run through the paint cheese
the ability to up and under from the top of the key cheese
the when I press the steal button, I go out of the play COMPLETELY, get pick pocketed by the ref, fall over the announcement table, gets LeBron's powder in my hair, only for them to say I left my opponent cheese
The getting ripped by someone with NO steal ratings cheese
The make me do a double clutch shimmy 360 reverse lay up that clunks the bottom of the rim or doesn't go in, instead of just a regular lay up with a wide open lane cheese...
The when I am running down court on the fast break and I see the open lane, when I press turbo, someone always seems to catch up with me, and hold me in one spot cheese
The AI teammates not shooting when you pass them the ball in an open spot cheese
The I hit all my shots in the 1st and 2nd qtr, but am totally inept in the 2nd half cheese.
The I pass the ball one way for it to go a WHOLE NOTHER (Yes I know it's not a word) way cheese
The I get slapped, stabbed, mugged, AND touched inappropriately while doing a a lay up, but get no foul call cheese
The fact that an eye lash can fall out of my eye, and land on the player with the ball, and they call me for a foul cheese
The face that I feel like Steve Urkel... Got any cheeeese?!?!Comment
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Re: The level of Cheese by the CPU is rediculus
I thought it was just me until I saw this thread. Before the patch I was getting realistic results and tight games. I one some and lost the games I was suppose to. After the patch my players don't hit any shots in the second half. Fastbreaking with Magic or Stockton is still unrealistic the cpu will just steal any pass to the basket. The cpu goes on this 2nd half run where they play perfect. The game makes Magic commit to's. Either Magic will just run out of bounds, a pass intended for one person will go the other way and be stolen. The most rediculous one is when i'm dribbling and the Cpu lunges and steals the ball and my player falls on the ground. I'm close to putting this game down for awhile until the gameplay patch comes out.Comment
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Re: The level of Cheese by the CPU is rediculus
The issue with playing a Cpu is they can at anytime take shots they know will go in. A computer can if it wanted make Howard shoot 3s because it can get that millisecond release you need. It can also move in the tightest space at the shortest time ever if its possible. This is why they go on these BS runs. Anytime it feels it can just switch on the turbo and F you in the A
The Cpu isn't playing the game it is the game, its hard for it to sperate itself and be something that reacts to actions and makes bad decisions. Instead it knows from the second you input a command, how to react, how to defend,how to score all this happens in a millisecond.Last edited by kaymagic91; 11-14-2011, 08:04 PM.Comment
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Re: The level of Cheese by the CPU is rediculus
You need to read my post dude "10 gameplay changes to make 2k12 more sim"I am on the bobcats, and I LOVE when the SAS says is name... KWA...ME... BROOOOOWN!!! hahahahaahaha... I find my self yelling it out at random times... don't judge me...
Now...
Pump fake cheese
three point cheese
Earl Boykin stuffs Tim Duncan cheese
the ability to run through the paint cheese
the ability to up and under from the top of the key cheese
the when I press the steal button, I go out of the play COMPLETELY, get pick pocketed by the ref, fall over the announcement table, gets LeBron's powder in my hair, only for them to say I left my opponent cheese
The getting ripped by someone with NO steal ratings cheese
The make me do a double clutch shimmy 360 reverse lay up that clunks the bottom of the rim or doesn't go in, instead of just a regular lay up with a wide open lane cheese...
The when I am running down court on the fast break and I see the open lane, when I press turbo, someone always seems to catch up with me, and hold me in one spot cheese
The AI teammates not shooting when you pass them the ball in an open spot cheese
The I hit all my shots in the 1st and 2nd qtr, but am totally inept in the 2nd half cheese.
The I pass the ball one way for it to go a WHOLE NOTHER (Yes I know it's not a word) way cheese
The I get slapped, stabbed, mugged, AND touched inappropriately while doing a a lay up, but get no foul call cheese
The fact that an eye lash can fall out of my eye, and land on the player with the ball, and they call me for a foul cheese
The face that I feel like Steve Urkel... Got any cheeeese?!?!Comment
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Re: The level of Cheese by the CPU is rediculus
I think 2k indirectly created the first gaming skynet. I'm literally convinced that the game is altering the game to make itself win. From:
Making missed shots hang on the rim (HOW THE HELL CAN A THREE POINT SHOT HIT THE RIM AND HANG OFF IT???) so that after you jump they get the rebound
The AI always gets its own rebounds
The AI makes everyone of its three point shots
The AI can make every last second shot (my player)
Your AI NEVER closes out on three point shooters
Your AI never clogs the paint
Your AI NEVER boxes out like the other team does
The other team AI always has a higher 3pt% than FG%
Your AI loves to break plays by not passing the FREAKING BALL WHEN THE BLUE LINE CLEARLY TELL HIM TO PASS THE DAMN BALL
Your AI likes to do the ABSOLUTELY DUMBEST passes known to man. Al Jefferson comes to the top of the paint, I'm standing right next to him (I'm the sg) but instead of passing the ball to me, he throws it across the court to the pg who is across the court behind the other team's pf and pg
The game is rigged.Comment
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Re: The level of Cheese by the CPU is rediculus
Man, I hadn't played the game in awhile, but played today and man I cannot get over the CPU cheese in this game. The best word for it is, unfair.
The CPU throws these wild 60ft passes with ease, when I'm about to block a shot or layup the cpu does this jump pass that always works. The 6 pump fakes it pulls off before laying it in.
The CPU never gets anything wrong. It totally feels like your struggling against this robot that is perfect and just wins. No natural errors or balanced shot %. And my AI teammates do nothing, play NO passing lanes, no boxouts on O or D.
If this next patch doesn't address the biggest problem, cpu cheese, 2K12 will just be known as a broken offline basketball game. 2K11 was no where near this level.
A 10+ thread here and in the 2K forums shows how big of a problem this is.OG 2K1 fanComment
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Re: The level of Cheese by the CPU is rediculus
Exactly, just exactly dude. I laughed and cried.I am on the bobcats, and I LOVE when the SAS says is name... KWA...ME... BROOOOOWN!!! hahahahaahaha... I find my self yelling it out at random times... don't judge me...
Now...
Pump fake cheese
three point cheese
Earl Boykin stuffs Tim Duncan cheese
the ability to run through the paint cheese
the ability to up and under from the top of the key cheese
the when I press the steal button, I go out of the play COMPLETELY, get pick pocketed by the ref, fall over the announcement table, gets LeBron's powder in my hair, only for them to say I left my opponent cheese
The getting ripped by someone with NO steal ratings cheese
The make me do a double clutch shimmy 360 reverse lay up that clunks the bottom of the rim or doesn't go in, instead of just a regular lay up with a wide open lane cheese...
The when I am running down court on the fast break and I see the open lane, when I press turbo, someone always seems to catch up with me, and hold me in one spot cheese
The AI teammates not shooting when you pass them the ball in an open spot cheese
The I hit all my shots in the 1st and 2nd qtr, but am totally inept in the 2nd half cheese.
The I pass the ball one way for it to go a WHOLE NOTHER (Yes I know it's not a word) way cheese
The I get slapped, stabbed, mugged, AND touched inappropriately while doing a a lay up, but get no foul call cheese
The fact that an eye lash can fall out of my eye, and land on the player with the ball, and they call me for a foul cheese
The face that I feel like Steve Urkel... Got any cheeeese?!?!OG 2K1 fanComment
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Re: The level of Cheese by the CPU is rediculus
I lol'd at that cheese post but its so true.#1 Laker fan
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