2k, you need to alter jordan

[jd@os]

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He wasn't unstoppable in the way he is on this game. You guys probably just cheese with him. All you have to do with Jordan is take it inside; it doesn't even matter how many people are down there. I watched Jordan all the time growing up, who didn't have WGN, and he did not play in the way that you see him used online.

For starters, Jordan WAS unstoppable for the most part in real life. Even though I don't care for him, Kobe has been an offensive juggernaut in the past and maybe the closest thing we've seen to MJ--but no team has implemented a defense designed to keep him in check (see The Jordan Rules from Chuck Daly).

Second, I don't cheese so don't be so quick to judge. It's not Jordan's fault--many people can play out of character with an athlete on a video game. I think South Carolina's ex QB Stephen Garcia led the NCAA in interceptions at one point, but when I played as the Gamecocks his pick totals were low. It's all about how you use Jordan. If you really did watch Jordan play, you would know. Games on DVD and ESPN Classic don't even give you a glimpse of how deadly this guy really was.

[kelvinzero]

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Ok, I think most of the people here are not understanding what I am trying to say. I am not saying that jordan is too good in all facets of the game, just in one particular scenario. What I am talking about is my problem of how much jordan and many smaller players score when the have no dribble underneath the basket. What I talking about is this scenario. Jordan has driven into the lane. He has been forced to pick up his dribble, and will travel if he moves at all. He has 1 or more 7 footers next to him. No non big should be able to score consistently in that situation, and it seems jordan scores to often in this one instance. Apart from that, I think jordan is fine. It feels like cheating when I use him, but that is because of how good he is. I don't want that changed, just this one small complaint.
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[broadrivr]

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Jordan was simply ahead of his time athletically. He was nearly the quickest guy in the league at an astonishing 6'4-6'5. Jordan was also the most explosive leaper. These two attributes placed him miles above anyone athletically enabling him to accomplish feats that seem nearly impossible. For a player to have that type of athletic ability today, it would require one to be in that 6'5-6'8 range with something approaching upwards of a 48ish" running vertical and be nearly as quick as D. Rose. That may seem silly, but Jordan was literally that athletic compared to the rest of the league. I am not attempting to downplay Jordan, but his dominance is relevant to the period in which he played. This applies to any player...

Thats one of the main things that makes Jordan so great. He was dominant during a period that had some of the best NBA players of all time.

[TheAlmighty]

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Stop crying.

Jordan WAS a real life video game. Everything he does is accurate and to be expected.

[blkrptnt819]

Jordan was simply ahead of his time athletically. He was nearly the quickest guy in the league at an astonishing 6'4-6'5. Jordan was also the most explosive leaper. These two attributes placed him miles above anyone athletically enabling him to accomplish feats that seem nearly impossible. For a player to have that type of athletic ability today, it would require one to be in that 6'5-6'8 range with something approaching upwards of a 48ish" running vertical and be nearly as quick as D. Rose. That may seem silly, but Jordan was literally that athletic compared to the rest of the league. I am not attempting to downplay Jordan, but his dominance is relevant to the period in which he played. This applies to any player...

So u mean LBJ.

[JWiLL02]

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Jordan is the best, most dynamic finisher around the basket in NBA history. If anything, the issue is that the game doesn't accurately portray the type of moves he finished with in the paint. He would routinely have 2-3 circus reverse shots in a single game, which would be "play of the month" type layups in today's NBA.

I always laugh when people argue LeBron is the best finisher at the basket in NBA history...there's more to finishing than power dunks.

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[blkrptnt819]

Jordan is the best, most dynamic finisher around the basket in NBA history. If anything, the issue is that the game doesn't accurately portray the type of moves he finished with in the paint. He would routinely have 2-3 circus reverse shots in a single game, which would be "play of the month" type layups in today's NBA.

I always laugh when people argue LeBron is the best finisher at the basket in NBA history...there's more to finishing than power dunks.

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I meant as far as comparing MJ athleticism to someone. LBJ is the athletic human being I have ever seen in my LIFE.

[Sdrawkcab321]

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anyone who doubts how good jordan was is either stupid or wasnt around to watch him play. ask any player in the 90s how good jordan was. he won pretty much every championship in his prime except the 1 year he came back after his first retirement. he played against hall of famers and top 50 players of all time and beat them all. so go back and watch full games if you doubt it

[JBrown247]

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You can play online with classic rosters now? Is that in the DLC they release>?

Ya, in the DLC. It is way more fun than playing the Heat every game.

[JBrown247]

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Ok, I think most of the people here are not understanding what I am trying to say. I am not saying that jordan is too good in all facets of the game, just in one particular scenario. What I am talking about is my problem of how much jordan and many smaller players score when the have no dribble underneath the basket. What I talking about is this scenario. Jordan has driven into the lane. He has been forced to pick up his dribble, and will travel if he moves at all. He has 1 or more 7 footers next to him. No non big should be able to score consistently in that situation, and it seems jordan scores to often in this one instance. Apart from that, I think jordan is fine. It feels like cheating when I use him, but that is because of how good he is. I don't want that changed, just this one small complaint.
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Exactly. You could have five Shaqs around him and he will still score. Jordan online is total bull and anyone who doesn't think so is just a jockrida. Anyone with an IQ above 12 could easily score 60 points in a 20min ranked game... and they do. 60points easily (or at all) in a 20 min game is absurd, and anyone who thinks Jordan could do that in real life needs to get their head checked.

[JBrown247]

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anyone who doubts how good jordan was is either stupid or wasnt around to watch him play. ask any player in the 90s how good jordan was. he won pretty much every championship in his prime except the 1 year he came back after his first retirement. he played against hall of famers and top 50 players of all time and beat them all. so go back and watch full games if you doubt it

Yup, cause 60 points in 20 mins is sooooo "realistic" Get real

[ourpurpose]

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So u mean LBJ.

No not at all. LeBron may be the most physical specimen overall, however his quickness is no where close to the best in league. He is elite athletically and extremely fast, but overall quickness is nothing close to D. Rose. Jordan was far more ahead in terms of quickness. That is why I didn't use the analogy.

[ourpurpose]

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Thats one of the main things that makes Jordan so great. He was dominant during a period that had some of the best NBA players of all time.

This can be subjective. The league has had many greats come and go, however the league has never seen one man have such an athletic advantage on the level Jordan experienced (in relation to his peers).

[ourpurpose]

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Jordan is the best, most dynamic finisher around the basket in NBA history. If anything, the issue is that the game doesn't accurately portray the type of moves he finished with in the paint. He would routinely have 2-3 circus reverse shots in a single game, which would be "play of the month" type layups in today's NBA.

I always laugh when people argue LeBron is the best finisher at the basket in NBA history...there's more to finishing than power dunks.

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History is such a strong term. You could accurately say Jordan was the best in his era, but stating the word history, is illogical. We will never know the best ever in anything that is subjective in nature, all we can say/conclude is what his performance dictated in his time (relatively speaking). I am a fan of Jordan, but I am also realistic. With that being said, most of those videos show his supreme athletic advantage that he simply wouldn't have in today's game. Who knows what would happen if he played today? We don't. To say or imply otherwise is simply foolish. I don't doubt for one second Jordan would have risen to greatness in today's game, but we can never truly know.

I love the game and the history that lies within, but I laugh how so many Jordan fans (the older guys) simply pass over other greats before Jordan's time as if they didn't exist. What about the Big O? Let me guess, the Big O had an unprecedented athletic ability in comparison to the league in which he played... Hello, Jordan did too. What about the other champions for that matter? Russell anyone? To say Jordan is the best ever is no different than saying Bias was a better prospect who would have surpassed Jordan's greatness. PURE SPECULATION! I wish we could all just learn to respect the players and the era they transcended.

[JWiLL02]

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I meant as far as comparing MJ athleticism to someone. LBJ is the athletic human being I have ever seen in my LIFE.

I've always felt that, from a basketball standpoint, Jordan is a better athlete than LeBron. Obviously in the open court LeBron is more intimidating physically due to his size, but Jordan's superior agility and combination of hangtime + all time best body control are far more valuable to an NBA wing than size and strength.