Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

[JBH3]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

What do you do about trades and free agency?

First...association settings, I have trades OFF for the CPU, and I have free agent signing/roster filling off too.

For trades it depends...I always like to mirror what trades occur in real-life. For instance, I made the Maresse Speights deal earlier in my association when I was playing as the 76ers, even though Memphis had a healthy Zack Randolph and Darrell Aurthur. At the deadline I take a look at teams who need to make a move to contend, teams who need to make a move to re-build, etc.

I went 1-8 as a user w/ the sixers, and they had the 2nd worst record in the league. Going nowhere fast and with a lot of talented wing players, I moved Igoudala to the Hawks in a 3-way deal w/ Houston. I also tore down the Wizards...trading Blatche to Boston w/ the basis that the veteran leadership will get him in the right direction. Here are some other moves I made using my 30-team control:

Andre Igoudala to Atlanta...
Andray Blatche to Boston...
Nick Young to the Spurs...
Robin Lopez to Miami...
Monta Ellis to Chicago...

For free agency....you can do a couple of different things and it all just depends on preference. Something I liked and did for 2K10 while controlling all-30 teams was I wanted it to seem like the player was deciding where they were going.

Using different teams I made multiple offers to someone like Carlos Boozer, and made the contract offer the same amount of money, years, etc. In the end Carlos Boozer's offer from Chicago was the same exact offer Miami gave. I did this for as many teams as I could, although some teams did not have the same amount of cap room as others.

There were a few instances where a team offering less money was the player's #1 choice...that whole success/chemistry/loyalty dynamic was clearly at work, and that's what the desired result was...to see a player go somewhere they wanted to, not just to whom was offering the most $$$.

This is basically the way I handle the free agency period now. After the FA period is over, any impact player remaining I try and move to a contender if offering the MLE is still an option.

[teagle721]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

Anybody have any ideas for the Pistons trying to move Ben Gordon?

[SteboSSK]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

This is currently a real ongoing rumor but I wanna know if this sounds plausible to you guys...

Lakers/Jazz: Darius Morris, Steve Blake, and Metta for Devin Harris and Jamaal Tinsley

[tarek]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

Can someone tell me (since I haven't simulated through a season yet) what kind of coaching budget the Knicks have if you fire d'antoni? And herb?
He's currently on a 4yr deal (which is completely wrong btw) and there seems no way to fire him in the first season. This is someone I'm disappointed that 2k haven't addressed. It's pure laziness IMO.

[Stevenson92]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

Hi,

I run an assoiciation with the warriors. Is it possible for me to get Paul Pierce without trading curry or monta?

[DarthRambo]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

Hi,

I run an assoiciation with the warriors. Is it possible for me to get Paul Pierce without trading curry or monta?

I'm running one with them too...I would have to say no at first, but here's a couple ideas I have:

Warriors trade: Dorell Wright, 2012 1st rd pick(lottery protected, meaning it has to be a lottery pick. If not, then wait until you receive a lottery pick some year and give that to them.)

Celtics trade: Paul Pierce

OR

Warriors trade: Dorell Wright, David Lee

Celtics trade: Paul Pierce, 2012 2nd rd pick


Danny Ainge did say they will be breaking up "the big 3" irl from what I've heard. But I would say they trade Ray Allen. I just don't see the Celtics ever trading Pierce, who they drafted and have so much history with. They pride themselves on their former players they have had so Pierce imho shouldn't be getting traded. I see Ray Allen getting traded though.


If you're looking for a SF I would take a look at Danny Granger, however to get him the Pacers would only do so if they got Monta Ellis. I know this cuz I live in Indianapolis

[LJ_K1NG]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

so i want to make a few moves in my association and i want some input..

Move 1:
Pacers get Eric Gordon/Hornets get Danny Granger and pick

Move 2:
i want to split up the Hawks.. they always underacheive.. sorry Hawks fans but they do.. any suggestions on who to move and where?.. the only player i won't move is George Teague.. and maybe Al Horford..

Move 3:
someone please give me a trade that makes sense for Dwight Howard??!!..

thats all for now.. thanks!!..

[nbcards]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

so i want to make a few moves in my association and i want some input..

Move 1:
Pacers get Eric Gordon/Hornets get Danny Granger and pick

Move 2:
i want to split up the Hawks.. they always underacheive.. sorry Hawks fans but they do.. any suggestions on who to move and where?.. the only player i won't move is George Teague.. and maybe Al Horford..

Move 3:
someone please give me a trade that makes sense for Dwight Howard??!!..

thats all for now.. thanks!!..

Its Jeff Teague not George Teague.

[Dpauley23]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

so i want to make a few moves in my association and i want some input..

Move 1:
Pacers get Eric Gordon/Hornets get Danny Granger and pick

Move 2:
i want to split up the Hawks.. they always underacheive.. sorry Hawks fans but they do.. any suggestions on who to move and where?.. the only player i won't move is George Teague.. and maybe Al Horford..

Move 3:
someone please give me a trade that makes sense for Dwight Howard??!!..

thats all for now.. thanks!!..

1. Hornets wouldn't do that deal. Granger is 5 years and Gordon still has room to grow.

2.We came up with a trade for the Hawks where they get rid of Josh Smith in 3 way trade in which the Nets land Dwight Howard. Take a look back on pages 17 and 18 to see the discussion. No one will want Joe Johnson contract so you'll probably have to amnesty him.

3. You could do 3 way trade with Nets, Hawks, and Magic. Also, you could just do Bynum, Gasol, Darius Morris, and 1st rounder for Dwight, Hedu, and Duhon

[sfx]

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First, let me say that I play the game because it's fantasy. While I want players to play realistically, the thought that I turn off injuries seems weird. But the idea of controlling all 30 teams and trying to make them all better is intriguing. For me, I don't want LeBron to be traded unless the Heat are really stinking it up. Having the ability to make that decision is nice. I have a suggestion and then a couple of questions.

1. There should be a team needs/strategy crib sheet. I'm not sure if anyone's created one or not. As much as a follow the NBA, I don't know the overall strategy of every team and I don't know the details of where teams are really lacking. If I had a depth spreadsheet that said "Bulls: Frontcourt-excellent, PG-excellent, SG-average, Youth-average" etc.... and then a strategy the team uses like "Lakers-star power + role players" or "New Orleans-Youth movement" it would allow us to set our own parameters. Does that make any sense?

2. Doesn't the player decide where he wants to go in free agency? If 6 teams offer him a contract, wouldn't he just pick where he wants to go? So if you're being honest about targeting players shouldn't the CPU decide? Take someone like Caron Butler. He had several teams willing to offer the mid-level. If you do the same thing, wouldn't the CPU pick one for him? It kind of ruins the fantasy for me if I can just determine where he wants to go.

3. Are there still owner considerations in the game? I seem to remember that you could get fired if you spent to much money or didn't build a winner. Is that negated when you control 30 teams?

4. What would happen if you controlled less than 30 teams. Say, 15 teams, so you could focus a little more and let the CPU control the rest. Would the game still continue to do wildly stupid things?

[volstopfan14]

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I was thinking about Dwight Howard and Josh Smith the other day and had an idea. I'm not sure if it would work or not so I'd like some feedback. But what if Atlanta traded Josh Smith to New Jersey for Brook Lopez, Kris Humphries, and Anthony Morrow. I've heard a rumor that Atlanta would like to move Horford to PF and get a C. That would give Atlanta more depth and a young frontcourt to build around.

NJ would only do this if Howard isn't traded though. Howard would have to available as a FA. Howard and Smith are good friends and that combined with Deron Williams would likely give NJ the edge in signing Howard.

I've tried this and salary wise, it can work for New Jersey if you mange the conracts right.

Does anyone think the ATL/NJ trade is fair? Would it be realistic to have Dwight become a FA?

[SteboSSK]

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Before the season I had the perfect trade to unite Josh Smith and Howard in Otown.

Orl gets Mo Williams, Josh Smith and

ATL get Kaman, Gomes and Bass 1st rd from orl

Clippers get Nelson, Anderson, Q Rich, Marv Williams and 2nd Draft pick from atl

[DarthRambo]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

First, let me say that I play the game because it's fantasy. While I want players to play realistically, the thought that I turn off injuries seems weird. But the idea of controlling all 30 teams and trying to make them all better is intriguing. For me, I don't want LeBron to be traded unless the Heat are really stinking it up. Having the ability to make that decision is nice. I have a suggestion and then a couple of questions.

1. There should be a team needs/strategy crib sheet. I'm not sure if anyone's created one or not. As much as a follow the NBA, I don't know the overall strategy of every team and I don't know the details of where teams are really lacking. If I had a depth spreadsheet that said "Bulls: Frontcourt-excellent, PG-excellent, SG-average, Youth-average" etc.... and then a strategy the team uses like "Lakers-star power + role players" or "New Orleans-Youth movement" it would allow us to set our own parameters. Does that make any sense?

2. Doesn't the player decide where he wants to go in free agency? If 6 teams offer him a contract, wouldn't he just pick where he wants to go? So if you're being honest about targeting players shouldn't the CPU decide? Take someone like Caron Butler. He had several teams willing to offer the mid-level. If you do the same thing, wouldn't the CPU pick one for him? It kind of ruins the fantasy for me if I can just determine where he wants to go.

3. Are there still owner considerations in the game? I seem to remember that you could get fired if you spent to much money or didn't build a winner. Is that negated when you control 30 teams?

4. What would happen if you controlled less than 30 teams. Say, 15 teams, so you could focus a little more and let the CPU control the rest. Would the game still continue to do wildly stupid things?

As far as turning injuries off, it's simply to avoid having to constantly avoid dealing with adjusting the rotations. View the google doc beds has and click the "injuries" tab. There you will see the idea that Beds and I created to "create" injuries in our association. In my association using the method we came up with here is my injury list as of now.

Tony Battie(back Nov 22), Brian Scalabrine(out for season), M. Pietrust(back Nov 21), and Paul Pierce(back Nov 24). You can create or simulate as many injuries as you want per day/per week, that's up to you. Personally, I only do 5/week(mon-fri on the nba calendar).

As far as the FA signings go, I get what you are saying...however if you ALWAYS allow the cpu to decide where to go teams will stack up on one position eventually. What I did myself was create a list for each team of the players whom I feel the team SHOULD and/or WANT to resign irl.

But I do want to create some randomness to it...guys like Lou Williams, Westbrook(who resigned already irl), Kevin Love I will resign (by editing their contracts under the edit player function). Dwight Howard I edited it to be a team option so I can decline it and he becomes a FA...who he resigns with idk, but I do know I will put him and Deron Williams on the same team, whether that is the Nets, Mavericks, Knicks, Lakers, or some other team idk yet. Maybe that's where I can use random.org to select which team both go to.

The point is, you can have randomness if you are creative enough with it. It does take some work but it's worth it imo. Feel free to ask any other questions!

[BasedTaylor]

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I just see Dwight and D Williams joining up in Dallas next year. I think they'll both sign there IMO. I'm going to wait until the off season and have them both sign there.

[DarthRambo]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

I just see Dwight and D Williams joining up in Dallas next year. I think they'll both sign there IMO. I'm going to wait until the off season and have them both sign there.

I'm kind of in agreement with you there. And yeah, I figure by the time the offseason comes I'll be ready to sign them to a team in my association anyway. And if I get there before I'll figure out a way to decide where they go; but I know for a fact they will be playing together somewhere next season. We should all know that by now...so stop trying to trade Howard this season unless it's the Nets too. I see all these trade suggestions but I don't see any that would actually happen. Just my opinion.