Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

[chinatownpwnage]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

your players after the years are created right? not draft class players

[volstopfan14]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

Couple more Granger for Gordon possibilites, maybe.........

#1
Hornets get:
Granger
Hibbert
2012 lottery protected 1st rounder

Pacers get:
E. Gordon
E. Okafor

The Pacers could have extended Hibbert IRL, but they chose not too, that leads to think they may be willing to part with him, even if he made the all-star team IRL. The first rounder may see like too much but since NBA owns the Hornets I feel like I have to sweeten the deal so the other owners don't flip over me trading the best player they got in the CP3 deal. Since Gordon won't resign in New Orleans they can justify trading him as apposed to letting him walk for nothing.

#2
Hornets get:
Granger
G. Hill
L. Stephenson

Pacers get:
Gordon
Jack
Belinelli

no good reason really just had to find contracts to make it work, feel free to suggest any tweeks to these.

Also I'm gonna run use a random number generator to determine the fate of Dwight Howard(at this time anyway) how do these percentages sound.

50% Orlando keeps him and hopes he doesn't walk after the season(he'll definently walk)

35% traded to the Nets, I'm holdong off on the details until I figure out if he's going there or not so I can't give the trade specifics yet, but you proably have good idea of how it will look

15% traded to the Bulls, I gave them a lesser % than Jersey because even though I think could offer Orlando a better package I heard a report today on ESPN radio that this is the least likely destination as Dwight doesn't want to play second banana to D. Rose.
(On a side note, Dwight is great don't get me wrong, but for being the best center in a league that really only has 1-2 other true centers who are worth anything, he hasn't done jack. 1 Finals appearance, big deal. He doesn't want to be 2nd banana to Kobe(reportedly) he doesn't want to be second banana to D. Rose, dude needs a serious ego check, and to stop worrying about being a movie star. How about you develop more than one post move Dwight. Sorry for the rant)

A lot of ideas from yesterday went out the window due to injuries.

JMO, but I think Granger and a 1st for Gordon is fair. I don't think Indiana wants to give up Hibbert and a 1st too.

I really like the idea for Howard. I may do something similar. If NJ and CHI are the only bidders, I think the percentages are fair. I guess you have decided that LAL is out of it?

[qpc123]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

Ummm so yeah, this has been mentioned before in the glitches thread and in the patch update thread...unfortunately, I just really started paying attention to it today.

There's a HUGE problem in association mode.

Any player that comes out of the draft after year 1 (IE every player we get into the league via a user created draft class) has ALL COLD ZONES for his hot spots.

Year 1 and 2...it's not a huge deal. For me, I drafted Anthony Davis and didn't really notice because I didn't expect much on offense. But by year 4, it starts really affecting the association. As more created players enter the league, the more you start to notice it. If you're playing with a created player on your team, you won't be able to hit more than 30% of your shots in game unless you're driving to the rim every possession. What's worse, if you play teams trying to rebuild with young talent, you'll notice they no longer pose much of a threat to you because they can't hit any of their frickin shots!!

This is a BIG DEAL. Apparently, this glitch was around last year, and 2K has even addressed it as fixed in the recent patch...no such luck. To see for yourself, go into freestyle practice in year 2 or beyond, take a player you drafted from a draft class, hit select to see his hot spots...and they will all be blue. Then shoot about 30 wide open shots from his highest attribute and watch how many of them rattle out.

Does ANY ONE know of a work around to this? Or are we supposed to just not play past year 2?

Would giving them a boost in their shot ratings/abilites/consistency, etc. make difference? Or could you tweek the CPU shooting sliders(won't fix the players on your team)?

[qpc123]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

JMO, but I think Granger and a 1st for Gordon is fair. I don't think Indiana wants to give up Hibbert and a 1st too.

I really like the idea for Howard. I may do something similar. If NJ and CHI are the only bidders, I think the percentages are fair. I guess you have decided that LAL is out of it?

Yeah, but you can't trade Granger straight up for Gordon, the $ doesn't work. Granger makes $12 mil and Gordon only makes around $3 mil. Even if you extend him his salary for this season doesn't change so it still won't work. Kaman is hurt so I can't trade him and other than that New Orleans would have to give up 2-3 other players and only get Granger back which isn't a great deal for them either. I may just have to wait till the offseason for Gordon to move.

[Comduklakis]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

I don't have an issue with that deal, but when I proposed a similar one a couple days ago it go shot down. I was told that it was basically a lateral move for the Jazz as Felton wasn't better than Harris. Personally I think it's an upgrade for Utah.

Well I was one of the folks who "shot" you down. Let me elaborate. Currently Felton is probably playing better than Harris, however in the past Harris has played better than Felton is/has/or will. Harris is younger and has more potential based on past performance. Plus Harris has another year on his contract while Felton can walk, leaving the Jazz with no PG. I just don't think Felton is enough of an upgrade when you consider potential and contract issues. In addition Howard and Hill are both expiring contracts, so nothing really gained or lost there. I think they are about even performance wise as well.

[volstopfan14]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

Yeah, but you can't trade Granger straight up for Gordon, the $ doesn't work. Granger makes $12 mil and Gordon only makes around $3 mil. Even if you extend him his salary for this season doesn't change so it still won't work. Kaman is hurt so I can't trade him and other than that New Orleans would have to give up 2-3 other players and only get Granger back which isn't a great deal for them either. I may just have to wait till the offseason for Gordon to move.

I wasn't even thinking about the money lol. Kaman is the best option, but if he's hurt that won't work. Yeah, it probably would be best to wait until the offseason if you want to do Granger-Gordon deal. Or you could trade Granger for Kevin Martin or Monta Ellis and leave Gordon in NO. Not sure how the Rockets and Warriors are doing in your game. That could change things.

[qpc123]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

Well I was one of the folks who "shot" you down. Let me elaborate. Currently Felton is probably playing better than Harris, however in the past Harris has played better than Felton is/has/or will. Harris is younger and has more potential based on past performance. Plus Harris has another year on his contract while Felton can walk, leaving the Jazz with no PG. I just don't think Felton is enough of an upgrade when you consider potential and contract issues. In addition Howard and Hill are both expiring contracts, so nothing really gained or lost there. I think they are about even performance wise as well.

I didn't mean it as a personal attack when I said it was 'shot down' sorry if that offended you, that was not my intent.

[qpc123]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

I wasn't even thinking about the money lol. Kaman is the best option, but if he's hurt that won't work. Yeah, it probably would be best to wait until the offseason if you want to do Granger-Gordon deal. Or you could trade Granger for Kevin Martin or Monta Ellis and leave Gordon in NO. Not sure how the Rockets and Warriors are doing in your game. That could change things.

I had a Granger/Martin deal in the works, but Martin is also hurt now so that one went away.

BTW, I ran the random number for Dwight.......

Looks like Otis Smith is gonna play chicken with him and see if blinks, Dwight will be in Orlando for the rest of this season, tough luck for the Magic unless they can pull a sign and trade in the offseason, but that seems unlikely.

[BasedTaylor]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

Ummm so yeah, this has been mentioned before in the glitches thread and in the patch update thread...unfortunately, I just really started paying attention to it today.

There's a HUGE problem in association mode.

Any player that comes out of the draft after year 1 (IE every player we get into the league via a user created draft class) has ALL COLD ZONES for his hot spots.

Year 1 and 2...it's not a huge deal. For me, I drafted Anthony Davis and didn't really notice because I didn't expect much on offense. But by year 4, it starts really affecting the association. As more created players enter the league, the more you start to notice it. If you're playing with a created player on your team, you won't be able to hit more than 30% of your shots in game unless you're driving to the rim every possession. What's worse, if you play teams trying to rebuild with young talent, you'll notice they no longer pose much of a threat to you because they can't hit any of their frickin shots!!

This is a BIG DEAL. Apparently, this glitch was around last year, and 2K has even addressed it as fixed in the recent patch...no such luck. To see for yourself, go into freestyle practice in year 2 or beyond, take a player you drafted from a draft class, hit select to see his hot spots...and they will all be blue. Then shoot about 30 wide open shots from his highest attribute and watch how many of them rattle out.

Does ANY ONE know of a work around to this? Or are we supposed to just not play past year 2?

Damn, that's a pretty big glitch... I'm just now starting year two and hearing that is pretty disheartening.

[bedwardsroy19]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

Ummm so yeah, this has been mentioned before in the glitches thread and in the patch update thread...unfortunately, I just really started paying attention to it today.

There's a HUGE problem in association mode.

Any player that comes out of the draft after year 1 (IE every player we get into the league via a user created draft class) has ALL COLD ZONES for his hot spots.

Year 1 and 2...it's not a huge deal. For me, I drafted Anthony Davis and didn't really notice because I didn't expect much on offense. But by year 4, it starts really affecting the association. As more created players enter the league, the more you start to notice it. If you're playing with a created player on your team, you won't be able to hit more than 30% of your shots in game unless you're driving to the rim every possession. What's worse, if you play teams trying to rebuild with young talent, you'll notice they no longer pose much of a threat to you because they can't hit any of their frickin shots!!

This is a BIG DEAL. Apparently, this glitch was around last year, and 2K has even addressed it as fixed in the recent patch...no such luck. To see for yourself, go into freestyle practice in year 2 or beyond, take a player you drafted from a draft class, hit select to see his hot spots...and they will all be blue. Then shoot about 30 wide open shots from his highest attribute and watch how many of them rattle out.

Does ANY ONE know of a work around to this? Or are we supposed to just not play past year 2?

Do you have any reason to believe that the hot spots actually affect shooting?

Because they are uneditable and not shown really unless you make them visible.

Honestly I'm not sure that it matters all that much. I guess we will see

[SwaggerCoach]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

Yeah I'm not really sure what to do with it.

I've considered giving rookies boosted ratings to counterbalance...but of course, that would be a pain in the A$$.

[qpc123]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

Yeah I'm not really sure what to do with it.

I've considered giving rookies boosted ratings to counterbalance...but of course, that would be a pain in the A$$.

It would suck, but it's not that bad compared to all the other stuff you do when you control all 30 teams, it's only 80 players at a time, so if we figured out a good 'median' number like raise all the shot ratings 10 points, it wouldn't be too terrible.

[BasedTaylor]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

It would suck, but it's not that bad compared to all the other stuff you do when you control all 30 teams, it's only 80 players at a time, so if we figured out a good 'median' number like raise all the shot ratings 10 points, it wouldn't be too terrible.

But does it effect simulated games? If not you'd only have to edit teams right before you played them. If it doesn't effect simulated games I wouldn't want to raise everyone and have their numbers higher then they should be.

[qpc123]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

But does it effect simulated games? If not you'd only have to edit teams right before you played them. If it doesn't effect simulated games I wouldn't want to raise everyone and have their numbers higher then they should be.

I was working under the assumption that it did, since Swagger said that none of the created rookies were shooting better than 30%.

[zay916]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

Raymond Felton is a year younger than Devin Harris FYI.